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Brookyln is not Monsey or Lakewood, It can handle higher density housing

The issue with the other population is why people move to the Suburbs and what they want there. Non-Frum people want lower density housing, they want yards, they want driveways, they want backyards, they want good public schools , good libraries and nice parks. They also want a seperation between housing and non-housing edifices (Like Schools and shuls) on streets. meaning they dont want places of worship on residential streets, they want them on main streets.

Frum people want higher density housing (but less dense than Brooklyn) they dont care about public schools or libraries and dont want to pay for them. Frum people want parks with playgrounds rather than parks with ballfields (Ballfield parks take up more space), so you can see where there is conflict, there really isnt a middle ground

You cant have uncontrolled building, You need roads, Sewers and other services to be able to take the population. What good is it if 1 Million yidden live in lakewood and all the roads are a giant parking lot and nobody can get anywhere

But many other Gedolim DID move to israel after the second world war

Before 1948 it was difficult to move there except between about 1920-1935 when it was possible, but life was hard

I am not chabad nor do I agree with everything they do. However The Lubavicher Rebbe’s Shiluchus and Chabad houses all over the world probably make him the most important frum jew of the second half of the 20th Century. While building yeshivas in the US and Israel after the war were important and Igros moshe was also very important, to a certain extent those are much easier than telling people to go into the jewish wilderness without much money and build a commuinity and provide services (Like food) all at great personal cost like no schools for your kids and lack of kosher food for yourself. Anyone can make a Minyan in Lakewood, try to make a minyan in hickstown, Nebraska. Chabad will do it

Move to Syria, You can then be Sephardic

According to many Lubavichers, he did.

Just because according to many chabadnicks think he did, doesnt mean he said he did. Unfortunatly too many times people think a gadol said or did something and really didnt

Move to Lakewood Ir HaKodesh

There are about 100,000 Jews in Brazil (The Amazon)

Addis Abbaba had a large population of jews until around 1990 and still has around 4000 (Number is debateable because of the Falash Mura)

And What about a Ger? Would you not allow your children to marry a Ger because the Hashghafa is differnet?

Personally, I would never agree to a shidduch for my children with someone whose hashkofas are totally the opposite of my own.

So I guess you would not let your children marry a Sefard (Or an Ashlenaz if you are a Sefard)

The main thing in marriage – they both have to start on the same page. Two different Hashkofos at the beginning is Not a very good idea.

I know quite a few “Mixed Marriages” between Sephardim and Ashkenazim and its actually quite common in Israel and its not so rare in the US either (Would be more common if there were more Sephardim), Seems to work fine for them.

Most languages have a regulating body except for one (English) , Mostly because languages are fluid and new words come in and old words go out. Because most of the innovations come from Anglo countries (especially the US) most new words come from english. People will just use the english word and over time the language becomes english.

If you listen to YIVO Yiddish and Chassidic yiddish you will easily notice this, YIVO Yiddish sounds like a distinct language, Chassidic yiddish is more yinglish and over time it will become more and more english. The YIVO at least tried to make yiddish distinct (but is failing because nobody speaks yivo yiddish, they only speak chassidic yiddish)

I dont know what you are talking about, but there certainly is something to allow a little “freedom” once in a while. I am not saying anything against the torah (Like driving to McDonalds on Shabbos) . I mean things like playing ball, wearing different clothes. Its healthy and normal and will charge up your batteries for stronger learning

I know a few people Id give Durian to

I have a tin can and some string

Go try to find a discount in Health care or Housing (Short of moving to a cheaper location , a smaller place or getting health insurance that is less than satisfactory) I know of a few people who tried to “save on insurance” and then something happend and it costed them more

Of course you could save money on going to the bungalos (Ive never gone) but for many families that is their only chance to leave the city and get some fresh air. Save on Camps? What do you want the kids to be around the house all summer long ?

It wasnt my Zadie, It was an Alter Zadie whom I never met. My grandmother told me they used to speak “Goyish” so they wouldnt understand. She just didnt know what Goyish was. They were from what is today Ukraine, but was Poland after World War 1 , so its really hard to know if it was Polish or Ukranian (Jews did speak those languages)

I never said yiddish is dying. I am well aware where it is spoken. However I do frequent Lakewood and am actually there quite often. People there do not usually speak it. I know its spoken in Chassidic Communities.

The only time Ive ever heard Yiddish spoken in lakewood is when the R’Y is around

FDR is not the worst president, He turned the US into a super power

You’re a yeshiva administrator and parents say they can’t pay. However, they have a child applying for seminary in Israel. Do you let their other children’s tuition go unpaid or demand they be paid, not the seminary?

Bad example as I dont think this is so common, Most people who cant pay really cant pay. If what if the following happens, A Parent says they cant pay and then get a Newer (To them car) does buying a newer car mean you shouldnt pay?

Maybe someone like to eat takeout (Like meal mart) for shabbos, Should Yeshivas tell the parents they need to eat cheaper

And what about if the parents just want to get away for a few days, Should a weekend upstate mean all sholoships be revoked?

I am a realist and I realize the problem is much greater than people realize and I personally dont think its solveable. Everyone here is coming with “Ideas” and you can poke massive holes in any one of them (unfortunatly)

And even if somehow vouchers becomes legal (probably the best solution and thats where the most money is) the government would then have the right to dictate to a certain extent what is taugh

A Yeshivas goals are not the same as other places. If a yeshiva was properly run, then students who cannot pay would be kicked out

Since none of us is a Navi, we dont know when Moshiach is coming, so you can contiue to pay the yeshiva tuition until then or move to a place where the government pays and wait there.

I have a sneaky suspicion Moshiach will be announced in both London and NY

Most Orthodox shul do not have the space for classes, Only Conservative and Reform have the space because they are usually bigger buildings and many have classrooms from the days when they had Hebrew Schools

The “communal tax” is an idea that has been floated around, of course there are lots of hole in it besides someones ability to pay , Would satmar be required to fund more modern Zionistic schools (and vice versa). What about conservative or reform jews in the same neighborhood, how do you get them to pay if they think yeshiva education is a waste (Some conservative and reform jews go to Orthodox synagogues).

The merger idea sounds good on paper, however the classes are already too large so you cannot merge the classes , You probably have to keep multiple buildings (no reductions on mortgage , utility costs and other adminstrative costs) and lastly there is the problem “Whose yeshiva is it” there are people who like to be in charge, Things like Hashghfa (some might seem minor hashghfic differenes but can be made into major issues)

I think when the idea of every jewish kid getting a jewish education first came out, they never thought of how to pay for it for the masses. Orhtodoxy was teetering so only the most dedicated went , there were smaller families so it was easier to pay. You will start seeing more dropouts (You already see some already) as families get poorer (THe high cost of real estate in NYC area doesnt help either), people will have to decdide to pay for expensive housing or yeshiva tuition) the problem is getting worse , not better