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How can someone read the article if Mispacha was banned
In the Garden of Eden , Adom Harishon told chava, not to TOUCH the tree, which is not what Hashem said, making a chumra and when the snake pushed Chava against the tree nothing happened.
Chazal have said that Adom’s aveirah was making chumras where it doesnt belong.
Today Chumras are being made where they dont belong and can actually be more harmful than good
I heard from RABBIS that such chumras as
Women Cant Drive
Women Cant Vote
Photoshoping of Women including world leaders out of photos
Women in the back of the bus
Are more HARMFUL than good
And if you dont belive me, google Yossi Sarid who posted a piece in Haaretz saying Othodox judaism treats women worse than dogs.
And the Sikirim are jsut following chumras, but some of the are probably mentally ill and dont know the difference between chumra and Halacha they have gone overboard
Seems like some have had time to issue directives to ban Mishpacha, College and going into the army
But no time to issue for other issues
I found out over shabbos the children of my neighbor (who used to live on my block before he was married) moved to RBS and his daughter attends the school.
He has seen this activity for months and most people in the shul knew about it (I wasnt so friendly with them , so I didnt know)
Some of the best tasting things leave a bitter after taste ,heartburn and indigestion
Someone WAS arrested
Id Post his name here, but some might consider it Loshon Harah.
I DONT as true sinners must be exposed and put in Cherim
I have heard from more than one Rav that some Charedi Rabbis do not know how to get a message out. Their message might be clear to a follower of that particular Rav, but means something else to everyone else.
Someone might ask a Rav a Shaliah and the Rav will answer with a Posuk assuming the questionaire understands the answer.
Someone might ask a Rav a Shaliah and he will answer with a Riddle that a follower would totally get, but a not follower would not get.
A Rav might give a statement in a letter written weeks after event.
This is how things were classically done. I dont think some gedolim understand this system doesnt always work
When the world changed from the Jullian Calander to the Gregorian Calender, 11 days were skipped
In most of Western Europe The Day After March 10,1582 was March 21, 1582
In England the and US Colonies September 2, 1752 was followed by Sepetember 14, 1752
And in Russia Janauary 31, 1918 was Followed by February 14, 1918
Whats more amazing is there arent any Chabad houses in Samoa
I think the Gedolim like Rav Elyshiv , Rav Kanivesky and the Chassdic Rebbes should go there and condem the violence without expection.
I like this idea. It will never happen, but it is a good idea
And thats part of the Problem.
Ive read many reports of the incidents , One thing that I do think is an issue is Charedi rabbis seem unable to stop the Sicarim. Charedi Followers who dont agree with them (Who might the majority) run scared. and unable to stop them
By they silence it seems they agree with them even if they dont
Acharon Acharon Chaviv
I think the Gedolim like Rav Elyshiv , Rav Kanivesky and the Chassdic Rebbes should go there and condem the violence without expection.
Also The Hashmoneon killed most of not all the Rabbis of their time and were Sadducees
Actually if a RELIGIOUS jew knew about the history of Chanukah, they would want to abolish it
The Hashmoneon Disobyed the Rabbis because they wanted to become kings
The LOVED Rome and made a treaty with them (This treaty was the real reason they won) and if you read the Megilah of the Maccabees they PRAISE Rome
Actually the treaty allowed Rome to make Judea a province of Rome
If you qualify then you should use them
You nutrition is very important
the Aguda has not properly condemed these acts, I saw the statement and they blame the victims.
If this didnt involve charedim and someone was stalking out 8 year old girls, They would be called pedaphiles.
In fact one of the protesters said he was concerened about being led on by an 8 year old. he is a pedaphile.
@Flowers if you think the internet is so evil , what are you doing here?
I would accept internet bashing from my relatives because they dont have it except they would not bash the internet in front of me because they know I make my parnassah from it.
@Non Political
Because of the actions of Rabbi Zecharia ben Avkolos (The Godol at that time) the temple was destroyed
Flowers Maybe you are advocating a filtered internet
The ban is not a Filtered Internet, Not YWN, Not Project Yes, Not the Shumz , Not Yahoo , Not ESPN Not ANYTHING. NO INTERNET.
And for those who condemn me for not listening to the gedolim on this, you are on the internet too.
Most of my Charedi relatives are not on the internet, EXCEPT MAYBE e-mail (If they need it) not YWN, Not The Shumz, not ANYTHING
Some Gedolim Banned people from coming to America calling it a traif medina.
If my great-grandparents had listend. I would not be here
No I just agreed with ravshalom that the Gedolim in the US see things differently than the ones in EY.
But I am not sure the ones in EY will see it any differently any time soon.
I dont think the ones in Israel want any part of the non-charedi world and want to force their adherents to be totally seperate, and not just about the internet. They even ban speaking English which of course is impossible in the US. You cant really use the internet properly without speaking english (Most of the internet is in English – Of course there are other languages represented ) But English Dominates
I was under the impression the question was asked about a normal weekday and normal form of dress, not a more formal situation like Shabbos
I think the communities in E’Y are more isolated than those elsewhere ESPECIALLY New york City
As isolated as Borough park is, Its STILL NYC, The buses that run on 13th Ave have NYC ads. If you Ride the Subway on new Utrecht you will meet all kinds of people.
Williamsburg besides being a Chassidic community is also a Hipster community with the BQE running down the middle
Even lakewood is only about 50% jewish so living and dealing with Non-Jews is common
HOWEVER in Israel its very different other than Meir Sharim seeing tourist who want to see that community it is isolated
Its more So for Beit Shemesh or Bnei Brak, outsiders dont really go there as much.
This is why I think these things are all happening in Israel more than the US, The People in Israel dont understand and dont need to understand.
Toi
It depends what he is doing, If he is going to a formal dinner, that he should wear a suit and tie, but if he is horseback riding then jeans is more appropriate.
If a Frum jew is a Plumber , should he wear a suit or Jeans
If a Plumber came to me wearing a suit, I am not sure Id think he was a real plumber
Flowers – Cars probably kill more people than guns
And besides killing there are alot more Averios done in cars than with Guns
Why stop at the internet, Why not ban Cars, Radio (Shtus Music), Telephones (Think how much Losha Hora occurs on the telephone)
Electricity (You cant read Prizus without electricity)
The actions of Oorah, they advertise on the Radio and dont tell the goyim where the money is going.
I have no problem with them raising the money and for what its for, but I have a problem with them raising the money and NOT telling people the real purpose and deceiving people
I know of some ORTHODOX Shuls that have Zumba Classes
people wear suits pants because we are like the sons of a king (Zeba and zalmunna said that to gidon in sefer shoftim). jeans are more casual- not something a king would wear
Google Prince William in Jeans
There are plenty of pictures
Is it tzniut to be standing outside a girls school looking at 8 year old girls?
I have not been to Gateshead, but I have been to London (Golders Green) and Ive been to Paris and Italy and I can tell you I am confused about Kashruth , I am not even sure about Chalov Yisroel in Europe. I do know how far Gateshead is from London (About 400 miles)
Since I am not sure about Kashruth (and Ill assume the girl did not either) I only buy from the jewish stores and I doubt she ever heard of Tesco or knew where it was (If you’ve never been somewhere, the store could be a block away and you wouldnt know it, and even if you did, What could you buy there) Kashruth in Europe is different. Until someone tells you what you can eat, you sort of have to wait. Its not about Chumas, this is actual Kashruth.
I think she flew into Ireland or something and then flew into Newcastle (Gateshead), She did take a train to get to London.
I guess its Traif for the Maccabeats to do this, but its 100% Kosher for Oorah to call itself Kars-4-Kids
My neighbor was recently in England and I asked her if she went to Gateshead, She told me as part of the trip she was required to visit a seminary.
She had taken 2 planes to get to Gateshead after a long flight arrived there and was Starving. She walked into one of the stores to get and sandwich and was told she could not be served because “It was the Boys time”.
So she BEGGED the owner to sell her a sandwich and he refused because it wasnt the girls time.
She had to WAIT until the Girls time to get some food (She did not know anyone in Gateshead)
While the wait was only a few hours, When you are tired after a long trip and starving, it might as well be forever.
This is a case where a Chumra overtook a HALACHA
Mod’s Please combine this with my above post
The Belzer Rebbe has also condemed the protests
Rabbi Horowitz of Project yes has posted on his Blog that everyone should write to the newspapers condeming the protests in Bet Shemesh and its a Chilul Hashem
Jothar,
Its alot easier to type something than say something sometimes
Either you are embarassed to say certain words or you think your voice might be recognized
I am not stating everyone feels this way, but some do feel this way
Fine the one guy is a meshugene, But why did the community errupt when they tried to arrest him.
I dont blame the community for the meshugene, I blame them for harboring and protecting him.
You said I cannot understand why chatrooms and the Coffeeroom are taking the place of research and asking one’s Rav.
In general there are alot of issues people are for whatever afraid to discuss or ask (Not Just Halacha) Its much easier for many to ask these questions online anonymously and get an anonymous answer.
Do you feel you can ask your Rav ANY questions (Empasis on ANY), maybe you feel you can, but there are many who do not feel that they can ask their Rav ANY question
I would like you to name ONE POSEK who says its ok to yell and spit at an 8 year old girl in Bet Shemesh.
Where does it say in M”B , A”M or S”A that its ok to do so?
They have no intention of giving Mussar!
Arent you defending those who are spitting , cursing and throwing things at the girls who are dressed “untzniut”
I am not expert, But I know this one can NEVER give Mussur out of hate.
You are supposed to give it out of love
I would like to hear one GOOD REASON why its ok K-Halacha to spit and throw things at an 8 year old girl EVEN if they are dressed in a Bikini (Which they are CLEARLY not here)
Pray and hope you win a raffle or chinese auctions
But seriously the only possible way is MAYBE a consolidator, people who buy bulk amounts of tickets usually on European Airlines (You have to change planes in Europe).
Check the Israeli Newspapers, even if you dont read Hebrew, the ads for these consolidators are easy to figure out
I was reading a book by Rabbi Berel Wein.
He tells the following story
He was in Jerusalem and was wearing sweats and jogging. While jogging he ran into Rav Sholmo Aueberbach.
He was embarrased that Rav Shlomo should see him this way, but before he could say anything, Rav Shlomo said, NU, your health is important too
I personally do not like them, because I dont like tight clothes.
But I see plenty of Israelis who seem to wear them even on Shabbos and they seem to be Shomer Shabbos
<em > A. Don’t keep the community’s level of chumrah (ex. maybe a mainstream Lakewood school refusing a child whose mother wears bright colors.)
B. Don’t keep some actual halacha. (ex. shabbos. Or doesn’t cover her hair).
I can tell you of some more modern yeshivas who WILL take kids from homes who are NOT Shomer Shabbot and NOT even Kosher and even these kids will become religious.
It is just as likely that a kid from a non-religions home (especially younger ones) will be influenced by religious kids and rabbis than the other way around. I know PLENTY of people who fall into this category
I think Its easiest to sum up some peoples views
Every Yiddishe Neshama is sacred and holy , unless they want to go to MY schools, be friends with MY kids, Daven at MY Shul or live in MY neighborhood
Goyim also fold pizza in half, Eat Hamburgers on a Bun, Eat french fries with their fingers drink soda from a can etc
Sometimes we dont always have the choices we would like in life.
While here I have expressed opinions on various topics, When I am in company of people associated with the school either teachers, parents, students etc I keep my mouth shut. for that matter in many company of family I do keep my mouth shut even if i strongly disagree
Actually my daughters school had rules about rolling knapsacks (A heavy knapsack is bad for kids) and rules about Bat Mitzvah’s
They tried to tell me who I could invite to a Bat Mitzvah
BTW this year she can’t have a water bottle that she can drink straight out of-there must be a cup cap
What is wrong from drinking from a water bottle