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Her husband has not given her a Get for 5 years
A man who refuses to give his wife a Get or uses it as a weapon definatly doesnt practice my religion
the real question we must ask . Why are we chasing people away and not only we are chasing people away and they are “fighting”
Why is there a need for an organization to help these people (There is a need because there is a demand, if there was no demand there wouldnt be a need)
So much time and effort is spent on kirov, How about trying to keep those already there
She is still religious, she is just not Chassidic or Yeshivish
She is sending her kids to religious schools
The issue seems to be that she was wearing pants in front of the kids
“All my aunts and uncles are hard on their children, it seems to me. They berate them, embarrass them, and yell at them. This is chinuch, child rearing according to the Torah.”
According to another poster in the Yated roundtable Thread it says in S’A to use a belt on the kids.
You dont know what a Blood Libel is
A Blood libel is the accusation the jews killed a christian child for Mazah. It usually occurs around Pesach time.
It is not the accusation that a suicide was actually a murder and covered up.
If I ate Sardines Id probably choke too
I was in England once
I remember
the Lift – Elevator
The Underground – Subway
They served me a Hamburger WITHOUT a Bun, just a plain patty and it costed me 12 Pounds
I had to drive on the wrong side of the street, I kept hitting the KERB (They mispell that there its spelled CURB)
You dont want to get a flat TYRE
There was a story in the Faranak Margolese book, told by a woman.
She had gone to a movie over the weekend (I forget if it was PG or R) the following Monday the principal of the school came into her classroom and opened the window and yellow P U. That there was an awful stink in the classrooom.
He pointed to the woman and said it was her fault for going to the movie over the weekend and embarrassed her to the entire class.
She is not religious anymore
Ivy League Schools give more Scholorships than most and discount the tutition.
If you can get into an Ivy League School, because they have Huge Endowments, they are able to make sure you can afford it
CG
In the US the politians bend over backwards to the jewish community
In fact for many in NY (and elsewhere) Israel is a campaign stop (Politians fight over who is more Pro-Israel) and in fact there was an election around here for congressman where a non-jew was able to claim he was more Pro-Israel than a modern orthodox jew and defeat him in a district the MO jew should have won (It was a democrac district and the non-jew was a republican)
Why are you willing to admit that we dont have to follow a Chazal that maybe the Sakana doesnt exist anymore
BUT
you say something from the 14-16 centuries is most certainly incombant upon us to follow.
I would think that something from Chazal trumps something from the S’A
I saw the View segment and while she did not give a postive spin on aspects of Satmar family life (It was a strong Negative spin) , She did not lie about it either
It really is dishonest to comment on a book that you have not read.
You dont have to like the topic, you dont have to read it, but dont say its lousy or fiction unless you have actually read it.
Ivy League is very different than almost any other private institution.
I would not pay for most private institution, I really dont think they are worth the money for what you get. A few non-Ivys like Duke, NYU, Stamford, MIT etc you might the connections, but otherwise I dont think they are worth it
CG
Wasnt there a massive Terrorist attack in the London Underground a few years ago.
Exact;y what Mitzvas Assa is it to take a 3rd mortgage on your house (IF you have equity) Max out all your credit cards (If you can do this) or if all fails go to the Chanasat Kallah and take charity so you can have the fancy wedding
uneeq
Do you travel at night, Its not just the Gemorah that says its a Sakana and forbidden
IMO Yes
Not because of the education, but because of the contacts you will make. You can make contacts attending Ivy League schools that you cant get anywhere else
Fancy Weddings
Since when do you need a Smogosboard, 5 course dinner along with a 5 piece band in a fancy hall.
IMO we can learn alot from the goyim in this and have simplier wedding with maybe 50 people people with a smogosboard or in a restaurant
Jsut because it was thought to be a “sakana” in the past doesnt mean we need to follow it today
The Gemorah in Pesachim I think says its forbidden to travel at night because of the danger. I dont think anyone here follows that
The other part of those stories the wife usually has a fight with the husband for spending too much money and breaks the Pittom
Etrogim
In Europe there was one Etrog per City, everyone shared. They were very hard to get and you heard of stories of people spending their food money or rent to get one
Yiddish was actually written in both Latin Alphabet and Aleph Bais.
While this is largely forgotten today there was an entire yiddish secular culture , History, Plays, books Poems , Movies. Mostly famously Tevye the Milkman which became Fiddler on the Roof.
While the kadosh stuff was written in Aleph Bais the secular stuff increasingly became written with the Latin Alphabet
Waste of time, Except for my mother I dont know anyone who speaks it and she hasnt spoken it in years (It was actually her first language even though she was born here)
If you read her story, LASHON HAROH is a big part of the story .
She had a condition that it seemed the entire community (or so she thought) spoke about it
Avi
I know this woman who went to YIDDISH School, I had never heard of such a thing and she told me it was a school where jewish culture was taught in an Anti-Religious environment
Ill have to admit, I find Europe incredibly cool. I like Historical stuff
England and Italy were super cool, While lots of cool stuff to see in Paris, I got pick pocketed there so I refuse to return and the Seine was disgusting.
My main concern about Amsterdam is the “Pharmecuticals” and the “Light District”. I dont particually want to see that.
I definatly want to go to Belgium and The Netherlands one day
FYI Aramaic IS Spoken today. Its spoken mostly in Syria
Most people I know hate it.
Even my mother almost refuses to speak it and it was her first language. (She’ll speak it if spoken to in Yiddish, but nobody speaks it anymore that she knows)
The yiddish spoken today doesnt even sound good. I have an ear for accents , I even caught a woman I was carpooling with speaking chinese with an american accent and she couldnt believe I heard it.
I remember my grandmother speaking it and the yiddish I hear today and it sounds nothing like when she spoke it.
The reality is in the olden days people rarely travelled and rarely communicated with people outside their immediate area.
You did not need to communicate with many people outside your immediate location
Today the world is much closer and people need to communicate. Because of the internet which was developed in the US and that US and Great Britain were the main business countries so english became the language is business, sort of by default English has become the worlds language.
Airline pilots and traffic controllers are ONLY allowed to speak in english while on the job (So there is no miscommunicaton in the airlines)
One of the reasons many of us hate yiddish is because when we were young our parents and grandparents used to speak yiddish on purpose so that us kids would not understand like it was such a terrible thing they were speaking about.
The Rambam , Ramban , Ibn Ezra certainly did NOT speak yiddish
The Maom Loez wrote in Ladino which is also a Jewish language but instead of a German based language that is yiddish, its a spanish based language that Sephardim spokr
Great Bear
Are you also a fan of Reb Yoilish’s view on E’Y?
Which is diametrically opposed to the Lubavicher’s Rebbe’s position
BTW Ive walked down Lee Ave and walked into some of the stores on Lee Ave and you can see and feel how the Satmar Looked at me and my family and no we were not dressed crazy.
We were just not dressed like Satmar.
It was not a good feeling. Its one thing if I walk down 125th and not looked upon nicely its quite another when my “Brothers and Sisters” do the same on lee Ave.
BTW I did not feel this way on 13th Ave in BP
Msseeker
You did not answer why my friend who taught at a Satmar School was called a Sheygetz
And He is not the only person who Ive heard tell a similar story
Sephardim dont speak yiddish, How does speaking yiddish connect us to Sephardic jews?
Actually more jews probably speak English than any other language (Including Yiddish)
akuperma
maybe cats and dogs dont, But Penguins do.
Also there was never a “Greek Empire” the only time the Greeks controlled the world was for about 15 years under a MACEDONIAN (never confuse a Greek with a Macedonian) Alexander the Great.
The Roman Empire lasted between 600-1400 years (Depending when you count the fall of the Empire from the fall of the City of Rome or the fall of Constantinople (Istanbul))
You can get $500,000 term insurance for as low as $500 a year
I have a friend who has smicha from YU . He got a job at a Satmar school
The boys (It was an elementary school) use to call him Shaygetz. He was a Rav and had valid Smicha, but the Satmar boys called him a Shaygetz (he thought it was funny)
Would one of you guys PLEASE point out some of the things she said about the community that they feel are factually inaccurate?
She claimed there was some sort of murder cover-up
Great Bear
The Chabad not being Chassdic was a JOKE said in jest. Lighten up
And the Chassidim I saw in Disney World were NOT Chabadnicks, they were something else (Maybe Satmar, but I am not sure)
Mickey Mouse is not a cartoon character anymore, he is a corporate icon.
And when I went to Disney World a few years ago, there were quite a few Chassidim who were there
He made these comments on his way to ERETZ YISROEL
Rav Moshe did not allow receiving heart transplates or even open heart surgery, he considered doctors who performed the transplants to be committing murder.
Since open heart surgery and heart transplants require the stoppage of a heart beating (They use some heart machine)
Its defending Hashems honor when someone writes a book that you dont agree with
But when someone who “claims to be frum” does a crime many people are willing to overlook it and claim the media is out to get jews.
These are 12-13 year old boys. To expect them to sit down and be quiet for speech after speech is unreasonable.
Keep the kids active and they will behave. They are young and need to let of steam.
I had my simcha for 4 hours and there was no trouble. I kept the speeches to a minimum so the kids would not get ansy and bored.
And IMO Yiddish Speeches should be BANNED (Unless everyone speaks it)