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In the Chareidi world in Israel, a girls parents are supposed to provide all the couple need to start (housewares, bedding, kitchen utensils etc.), pay half rent for the first year, pay half wedding expenses, make the engagement, either the whole Shabbos sheva brachos or the other side sometimes splits with them, and put down a substantial amount of money, though nothing near the price of an apartment. This is when the kallah’s family are living simply, trying to live on a kollel budget.
This thread is ridiculous. Sports has nothing to do with peanut allergies. And if a kid doesn’t like anything but peanut butter, let him eat plain bread. Someone else’s life is at stake.
What about Bein Adam L’Chaveiro?
I have a child with a severe milk allergy in High School. When they had a program with Dairy, she spent the next lesson in the yard, because the whole school smelled of chocolate milk. Most people can’t smell dairy, but it makes her itch in her throat, Touching dairy is worse. And eating dairy is anaphalactic.
She is a totally normal girl, who can’t eat dairy.
Why can’t we all think of others who have to cope daily with the not so easy task of being allergic?! What about the fine print on packaging? Marshmellows that are made from fish products (for those allergic to fish)? Etc.?
The school has a tremedous responsibility to children with special health needs (i.e. allergies, diabetes, etc). They want their children safe.
If a parent doesn’t like it, send their child to another school. Aren’t the children in school to learn middos and derech eretz? Derech Eretz kadma L’Torah. If you don’t like it – leave!The free Yated on Tuesdays has apartments for rent. Especially closer to the summer. They may also advertise a number for free Teevuch for apartments in different parts of the country. The best way to find the numbers is have someone is Israel be on the lookout for you.
Hatzlacha.We live in Israel and our son is in Yeshiva in a city different from ours, and I worry about him, about the others in the family who travel, about the kids who walk to schools close to where the Arabs are building…
But it is obvious that each bullet has a destination. If Hashem wants it to happen, it will happen, no matter if you are in the States, in Israel, or in China.
A story is circulating about a man on bus 422 (Yerushalayim/Bnei Brak on road 443) who saw a young suspicious arab get on his bus. He was very nervous and was contemplating getting off the next stop, etc, when he decided that he will learn the whole way and that will be a protection from all harm.
At Shilat junction, the Arab pressed the button to get off the bus, and as he was about to go down the steps, he opened his backpack, took out a knife, and said aloud to the passengers – this time I chose not to use it…. and then got off the bus.
May Hashem watch over everyone, wherever they are.
We all have to better ourselves (not others, but ourselves)so that we will see the yeshua.
We live out of Yerushalayim and one of us travel in every day for work. The children all learn in mosdos where we live, so travel (with public transportation) is a bit of an expense, but living in Yerushalayim was not affordable for us.
Although our salaries are less here, our expenses are less as well, however tuition (if you don’t send to the public school system) is very high and one of our largest expenses.
Eretz Yisroel niknes B’yisurim.
It is not easy when you first get here, and getting used to the Israeli mentality is something we will probably never do, but our children are Israeli.
Still, it is a decision that requires much fore-thought. There are many factors involved and you should speak to people who you know who have done it and have had hatzlacha/ have had issues specifically with their children.
Speaking hebrew, burocracy, etc. are all difficulties that you can live with (sometimes with much frustration), however the main concern should be how will your family fare – will they stay hashkafically at least where they are holding now. If not, I would reconsider your decision to make aliya. The parents and children’s emotional health is the most important. You don’t even want to say, if only I would have stayed in the States, my children would be more religious than what they are here. That is a heart-breaker.
Speak to a Rav you are close to, speak to people about their adjustment, daven for siyata dishmaya, and may you have much hatzlacha in your decision!
If you live in Israel, you must put your kids in the Israeli school system. There are English speaking ganim for the English speaking kids in Yerushalayim, but the quicker you put your children in the regular system, the quicker they will adjust.
Relatives will help you adjust emotionally, but you need to speak to people that moved with children your ages, where they settled, how they managed, how the children are adjusting, etc.
I opened a user name just to reply to your post. This is a very difficult question and one which needs much forethought and of course a tremendous amount of siyata dishmaya.
Eretz Yisroel is a place where everything is black and white. Even the posters announcing funerals are pasted in black and white on billboards!
If in the United States you are a ‘baal habayis’ and your children are learning in Bais Yaakov and Yeshiva’s, it doesn’t mean that in Eretz Yisroel you can continue to live the same way.
If you don’t choose to specifically go more ‘black’ or more dati, your children will not fit into society. For better or for worse, the society in Eretz Yisroel is very segregating, and to fit in, you have to allow that.
It is a difficult challenge, and one you have to work out yourselves before making aliyah, however living in Eretz Yisroel is an amazing experience and one which we would not give up! Even with the fact that we miss many family simchos etc.
As others said, there are many pro’s and cons and speak to people from all wavelengths who have made aliya before making such a drastic change.
Much hatzlacha!