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the reason for EVERY Mitzvah is because Hashem commands it, but most Mitzvahs have reasons or taamim, which is the same word as “taste” as well as “reason”

just like we eat to stay alive, but the taam of the food gives us pleasure and helps us to eat, so too we do Mitzvahs because we are commanded but the taam of the Mitzvah helps us to do it and gives us pleasure when we do.

popa for your edification and anyone else who may be inspired by your prowess, vigorous exercise will not cancel out very poor eating habits. kind of like aveiros and Mitzvohs.

remember jim fixx the one person who really began the jogging craze in america, who died at the age of 52 of a heart attack after his morning run one day.

you should live to be 120, at least.

no they werent proofs.

but perhaps no alleged proof is ever a proof.

except perhaps in pure mathematics

If you ask anyone of them that doesn’t, you will find that, for the most part, they simply don’t want to deal with the whole issue.

I doubt if that is Rav Elyashuvs reason.

i dont agree with oomis but if you believe any kind of physical rebuke is violence and it will adversely harm the childs psyche forever, then there will be found no type of potching or situation in which it is warranted.

potching does not preclude talking

tomim, yes, i think thats the most inclusive usage.

the phrase has a specific Halachich meaning

It has various generally used meanings as well

some use it exclusively for public matters

some use it less restrictively

it all depends on context, but i think the listener generally knows what is meant

Then I must have misinterpreted your response to minyan gal.

no you interpreted my response correctly, i was mistaken

actually i shouldnt have made the statement you referenced, in response to that particular post. i didnt read it well, i just noticed the part about children strolling across the Bima

yes there are definitely two sides

if a child sees his father going to Shul early and with enthusiasm, and when he is old enough to sit quietly by his fathers side and sees the awe with which he treats the Bais Knesses, when he sees how his father davens with kavannah and is b’simcha to be in Shul and isnt in a rush to leave and means business and doesnt shmooze, he will understand what a Shul is.

when the child comes to play and run he will have good feelings about a Shul, but he wont know what it is.

Now if I could just prove these two lemmas

i believe the singular of lemmings is lemming, not lemma.

and what does a game have to do with the theorem?

unless you are making a reference to game theory?

so your goal is to have people be moser nefesh in order to, possibly, if this is done in large enough numbers, accomplish a de-stigmatization of something that is currently a stigma and many feel rightfully so. some who are about to make such a decision may not be so lofty in their goals

How could something be so bad and at the same time so good?

you mean like chocolate cake?

smoking too is quite pleasurable to those that smoke.

ive heard that tightroping across niagra falls without a net is extremely exhilarating

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i dont know what it is, maybe there really isnt much of a controversy

i saw it in another thread maybe a week ago

i havent the time to research it

SJ, I agree with you

as far as the youth minyon, i know a lot of people are against them, i am not familiar with the two sides, but you might possibly want to start a thread on that, should be pretty argumentative.

there is a sancticty, a Kedushah to the Bais Ha Knesses that derives from the Bais Ha Mikdosh. There are numerous Halachos that dictate proper conduct and AWE.

This is the way the Jewish People, Avdei Hashem, the kingdom of priests that we truly are, have always conducted themselves.

Yes the Bais HaKnesses has also been a place for the community to get together and discuss community problems, needs, and to fast in times of need. and for Mitvahs and sometimes the associated Seudas.

But it NOT a social hall to get to together to shmooze and party. At least not until america, where many have learned the meaning of the Shul from goyish attitudes, subconsciously of course

sometimes they dance

agree

it depends on a number of factors

pretty complex decision

there should be no “protocol”

anecdote, someone i know:

plonis went on a date with ploni and decided not for her

two years later they went out again

they got married

Jews for J really bother me. At least pick a consistent side. Don’t waffle under “I’m a Jew and I believe in J.” [not that I’m advocating Christianity, but this just really bothers me]

i dont believe this is what they are. they are full-fledged Xans in their minds. they only use their previous Jewish identity as a ploy to attract Jews.

the dancing is not scheduled

wolf

I don’t talk in shul unless it’s necessary for the davening*

actually i heard that you talk incessantly during the leining

I know a lot of people with TVs in their house and most do NOT watch 2 hours a night. At least once they have kids.

well that sure proves your point that most people dont watch 2 hours of tv a night

nice post bomb

also

even given the very best and most moral programming,

would you invite a stam goy into your house, a nicely dressed well spoken person, perhaps a religious church goer who is always polite and kind.

invite them to sit in your livingroom every day for two hours and speak to your children, no proselytizing of course, just to speak to them, perhaps about daily events in his life, about his thoughts, his aspirations, his values, his beliefs, his entertainments. every day, for hours, over and over, day after day, pouring his mindset into your children’s receptive fresh minds, as they sit mesmerized, their minds absorbing like a sponge.

well, would you?

im not sure what i meant either smartcookie but i think apushatayid explainded it