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YWN never comments here, but for the sake of accuracy, YWN has NEVER – NOT ONCE – criticized any demonstration in Lakewood against the drafting of Yeshiva Bachurim. That is a bold-faced sheker and pure Motzei Shem Ra – on Erev Rosh Hashanah nonetheless. (We suggest you either stop reading other news outlets where you saw this, or at least keep track of what you read where, before spewing such sheker)
Lakewood Shomrim have been active for the past 15 years. But Joseph is Joseph. Oh by the way, they were not started by any Chassidim. In fact, there were no Chassidim living in Lakewood 15 years ago.
YWN never removed a thing. You should learn how to use a search box on the top right on the YWN homepage. Clearly, you never bothered.
So here you go:
Chaim Walder Summoned To Beis Din Regarding ‘Extremely Severe’ Allegations
Leading Bnei Brak Dayanim Pasken Not To Read Walder’s Books Until ‘Further Clarification’
The video you just saw is MONTHS old, on the campaign, during the primaries, when Kamala was actually running for President. Just because someone with a blue check tweets, doesn’t mean it’s true or relevant!
Don’t drink the WhatsApp coolaid.
@Joseph – “The question here is on what basis did the local rabbonim first assume they could consider the person deceased prior to location (before their decision was overturned)?”
The question here is on what basis do you know that this is what the local Rabbonim paskened? You don’t.
Just another day of Joseph being Joseph.
@zaltzvasser YWN hasn’t a clue about this “Asifa”. This is the first we heard about it. Apparently, the organizers felt it wasn’t newsworthy or they would have informed the most-read English Charedi news source. Or perhaps they felt it was best not to have it publicized. We can’t answer what the reason for their decisions are.
But feel free to send us a full report https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/contact-us
How can I become a Mod?
We have a brilliant idea for you. Don’t read the comments. Hows that for a brainstorm?
No need to scroll down past the few ads that are act as a “mechitza” before the comments that you are so bothered by.
What app are you referring to?
iphone? Droid? Radio? Main YWN site?
It is being worked on.
I am not a mod, but it was added.
YWN had no knowledge of this protest.
Satmar does not inform YWN of their events. No press releases were sent to the media from anyone involved. And if they did, they chose to deliberately ignore YWN.
The only thing we have is approximately 100 photos which were sent to us earlier today, which were loaded in the YWN Photo Gallery.
http://theyeshivaworld.com/photos.php?albumid=5896131942623336849
Now, what is your issue exactly?
Feel free to use this: http://www.helpayid.org/rideshare/index.php?aff=yw
Hi Reuvein,
The shidduch crisis and age gap concept, were NOT discovered by a statistical analysis of how many girls are still single post 28 years old or whatever arbitrary age we would like to use, and contrasting that with the number of older boys who are single. It is almost impossible to accurately count the total number of singles at any given time.
Are there some guys still single? Certainly, but the number of known girls who have dated 5/10 years and are still single dwarfs their male counterparts by very significant numbers.
The question then became why? How could this be?
The two observations are as follows.
1. Our population is growing i.e. younger grades are significantly larger than older grades and as such the number of young adults turning 19 each year is significantly larger than the number of young adults turning 23 each year. This population growth is obvious to the naked eye, and has been supported by numerous studies, see below. There is certainly room for discussion to figure out the exact ratio of population growth. Such discussion will affect the determination of the precise number of projected leftover young women. But however one counts the growth rate is such as to have a significant discrepancy between young adults age 19 and young adults age 23.
2. The age at which young women in our communities seek to marry is a few years earlier than the age at which young men seek to marry. And the inevitable results is that the average age of a young man as the time of marriage is a few years older than the average age of a young woman at the time of marriage. There has been no scientific statistical study of this second observation, but it is self evident. Once again there is room to discuss the exact average age gap between husband and wife. It may be 3 years, it may be 4 years, but it should be clear to all that it is significant.
Thus, if we take these two observations to their obvious conclusion, that there are far more 19 year olds in our communities then there are 23 year olds, and we realize that young men first begin shidduchim mid to upper 22 and young women begin shidduchim around 19, it is obvious that we have a significant problem on our hands.
One can study the data of population growth, and one can try to guesstimate the average discrepancy amongst starting dating ages, and the results of such study will certainly have a variance as to the total number of projected girls who are unmatched. But all would agree that the result is very significant and worrisome, even if there is a variance as to the exact number/percentage of women who will unfortunately remain unmatched.
One more important point, the projected number of unmatched young women as a result of the age gap concept, is NOT the total number of girls who are unmarried after 5/10 years of dating. This is the projected number of girls who will remain unmarried even if every young man gets married. For every young man that stays unmarried, that will cause another young woman to unmarried. Thus the total number of girls who are unmarried after 5/10 years of dating is above and beyond the number of girls projected to be unmatched due to age gap.
With this introduction we can now address your specific questions.
1. We are never told what percentages of guys are single?
2. How many of the young woman in question might not be on the yeshivish shidduch market at this point?
The number 10% is not related to yeshivish style dating
3. What percentage of this statistic are divorced or widowed?
10% is the number of older girls who cannot be married at any given time even if every available boy is married.
The actual number of older unmarried girls at any given time is higher because there are of course some boys who are not married. So if 3% of older boys are unmarried at any given time then there will be actually 13% of older girls not married.
The number of girls who cannot ever be married is impossible to guess. It’s even possible that every girl could get married at some point in her life. Suppose we make a (ridiculous) rule that every marriage has to end after 10 years. Of course now we can play merry go round and the women who didn’t get a husband the first go round can find a husband the second go round. But at every point there will be 10% who can’t be married plus an additional percentage who are actually not married at any given time because of the number of men that are single at that point in time.
Similarly suppose there is a 50% divorce rate. Then the girls who weren’t married the first time can find husbands from guys who had previously been married (at the expense of the girls who are now divorced). This by the way is a primary factor in why women who have previously been married (divorcees or widows) have a much harder time getting married a second time, as opposed to men in a similar position looking to get married a second time around.
4. We know nothing about the methodology of the study. Did the people who collected the data control for other factors? How big was the sample? How many years of data do they have?
5. How many of the people involved in propagating this simple math have a working understanding of statistics let alone graduated high school?
6. What is the confidence level of the study?
Anyone who would like to receive specific detailed technical information on the studies that were done as well as be put in contact with the people who did the research, is welcome to contact the NASI Project
A few points;
[Dr. Marvin Shick, Avi Chai Foundation, http://www.avichai.org/knowledge-center. as well as other sources.
c. The research was done by different people at different times who reached the same conclusions.
7. I did a quick sampling of guys about age 30 and in many classes 7-11% are still single. So according to my, possibly, equally unscientific data, the gap between percentage of guys single and young woman single is statistically insignificant.
8. Let’s say that in one city 17% percent of a class is single and in another 3% is. When we average the two classes we will get 10%, but we would be better served and we would be helping those singles more, if we looked for a reason specific to that city.
9. Let’s say more girls leave our circles than guys do, then we need to know what percentage that is before we draw conclusions.
Discussions with people in the field have yielded that the number of guys who leave our circles to never come back and marry in our circles, is in no way more significant than the number of girls who go the same route.
I challenge, NASI and whomever else is involved in this, to make the data public so the community can assess if the simple story they are telling us holds water. They can set up a website, make it available for download and redact any personal information.
What you have to explain is which of the following basic premises you think are not correct.
1. The total number of girls who have been dating 5+ years and are still single is substantially more than the total number of boys that have been dating 5+ years and are still single.
2. Population growth
3. Age differential
I don’t doubt that the people involved in this are well meaning, I just think that before the community makes major changes to its way of life and risks the shalom bais of the next generation that we hold this data to more scrutiny.
The allegation re: shalom bayis is simply unfounded. Is a boy marrying a girl his own age more at risk for shalom bayis issues? Are boys who prefer not to go to EY and thus as a result of their decision to not go to EY and beginning shidduchim when they are ready, which will likely happen to be at a slightly younger age than they currently do, create a risk of shalom bayis? Is there any reason to think that boys at 22.5 are less prepared to be quality husbands and fathers then they are at 23?
NASI Project
DaasYochid – Thanks for your thoughts.
Let’s see what Mr. “A Modern Chasid” has to say.
Perhaps you can enlighten us and tell us what article (with filthy news) caused you to sound off here about this “BIG” problem?
Looking forward to your response.
Post here if your newsroom is turned over.
Maybe post his name for Tehillim, so we can all say a kapital or two for him.
Nothing wrong, no virus, everything seems fine.
Sober up.
Meteorite Hits Central Russia, More Than 500 People Hurt
VIDEO: Meteorite Hits Central Russia, More Than 500 People Hurt
More than 500 people were injured when a meteorite shot across the sky and exploded over central Russia on Friday, sending fireballs crashing to Earth, shattering windows and damaging buildings.
People heading to work in Chelyabinsk heard what sounded like an explosion, saw a bright light and then felt a shockwave according to a Reuters correspondent in the industrial city 1,500 km (950 miles) east of Moscow.
A fireball blazed across the horizon, leaving a long white trail in its wake which could be seen as far as 200 km (125 miles) away in Yekaterinburg. Car alarms went off, windows shattered and mobile phone networks were interrupted.
No fatalities were reported but President Vladimir Putin, who was due to host Finance Ministry officials from the Group of 20 nations in Moscow, and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev were informed.
WINDOWS BREAK, FRAMES BUCKLE
A wall was damaged at the Chelyabinsk Zinc Plant but a spokeswoman said there was no environmental threat.
Although such events are rare, a meteorite is thought to have devastated an area of more than 2,000 sq km (1,250 miles) in Siberia in 1908, smashing windows as far as 200 km (125 miles) from the point of impact.
Chelyabinsk city authorities urged people to stay indoors unless they needed to pick up their children from schools and kindergartens. They said what sounded like a blast had been heard at an altitude of 10,000 metres (32,800 feet).
The U.S. space agency NASA has said an asteroid known as 2012 DA14, about 46 metres in diameter, would have an encounter with Earth closer than any asteroid since scientists began routinely monitoring them about 15 years ago.
Television, weather and communications satellites fly about 500 miles (800 km) higher. The moon is 14 times farther away.
WATCH VIDEO: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=157090
Once you mentioned it, here is the latest from the AP wire on this story:
Horsemeat: French Company Blamed, UK Arrests
Police in Wales, meanwhile, announced the arrests Thursday of three men on suspicion of fraud at two meat plants inspected earlier this week by the U.K.’s Food Standards Agency.
Europol, the European Union police agency, is coordinating a broad continent-wide fraud investigation amid allegations of an international criminal conspiracy to substitute horse for more expensive beef.
In Paris, Benoit Hamon, the government’s consumer affairs minister, said it appeared that in the most prominent case fraudulent meat sales had been going on for several months, and reached across 13 countries and 28 companies. He did not name the countries or companies.
He said there was plenty of blame to go around, but most of it rested with Spanghero, a wholesaler based in southern France.
Officials at Spanghero denied knowingly buying and reselling horsemeat but French authorities immediately suspended their trading activities.
Hamon said Spanghero was one company in a chain that started with two Romanian slaughterhouses that says they clearly labeled their meat as horse.
The meat was then bought by a Cyprus-registered trader and sent to a warehouse in the Netherlands.
Spanghero bought the meat from the trader, then resold it to the French frozen food processor Comigel. The resulting food was marketed under the Sweden-based Findus brand as lasagna and other products as containing ground beef.
Hamon said Spanghero was well aware that the meat was mislabeled when it sold it to Comigel.
“Spanghero knew,” Hamon said. “One thing that should have attracted Spanghero’s attention? The price.”
Hamon said the meat from Romania cost far below the market rate for beef.
A representative for Spanghero said company officials have been interrogated by authorities, who have raided Spanghero headquarters several times in recent days, but no one has been arrested.
The representative insisted the company acted “in good faith” and that it never knew the meat it bought and sold was horsemeat. The representative said he was not authorized to be publicly named according to his contract with Spanghero.
He wouldn’t comment on French authorities’ insistence that Spanghero should have recognized the meat as horse by its price, smell and color.
Food processor Comigel was not blameless either, Hamon said, declaring that the paperwork from Spanghero had significant irregularities, including a failure to specify country of origin.
“And once the meat was defrosted, we can ask ourselves why Comigel didn’t notice that the color and odor was not that of beef?” Hamon said.
Sorin Minea, the chief of Romalimenta, the Romanian food industry association, urged tough sanctions for the French companies. “Romania, small and ugly as it, respected all European legislation. In the U.K., legislation was not respected,” he said. “I am sad that first we were accused and then there was an inquiry. We feel we are not part of the European family.”
Britain’s food regulator, meanwhile, said Thursday that six horse carcasses that tested positive for an equine painkiller may have entered the human food chain in France and that horsemeat tainted with the medicine may have been sold to consumers “for some time.”
The U.K. Food Standards Agency said eight out of 206 horses it checked had tested positive for phenylbutazone, commonly known as bute. The drug is banned for human use in countries including Britain and the U.S.
The scandal has also raised the uncomfortable idea that Europeans may unwittingly have been consuming racehorses, which are often treated with bute.
Britain’s Aintree race track said a slaughterhouse in northern England shut down this week by government investigators had a contract to dispose of fatally injured racehorses. The racecourse said it was “as confident as we possibly can be” that none of the meat had entered the human food chain.
Despite the ban on bute for humans, Britain’s chief medical officer, Sally Davies, said that horsemeat containing the drug “presents a very low risk to human health.”
Davies said the drug was once prescribed to patients with severe arthritis, and while it sometimes produced serious side effects including the blood disorder aplastic anemia, it was “extremely unlikely” that anyone eating horsemeat would experience them.
“If you ate 100-percent horse burgers of 250 grams (8.8 ounces), you would have to eat, in one day, more than 500 or 600 to get to a human dose,” she said. “It would really be difficult to get up to a human dose.”
In other, separate developments in the multi-tentacled horsemeat scandal Thursday:
Mochul luch!
Just for the record, he is not a Hatzolah member, but a Chaverim volunteer in Lakewood.
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(Via email from a reader in Eretz Yisroel)
Dear Editor,
I type this letter from the holy city of Yerushalayim.
Last night, Friday night, about 15 minutes after lighting candles, my husband and I were leaving our building located in one of the biggest American neighborhoods, when we heard it. The dreadful siren.
PANIC!!!!
There on the stairwell we stood, as dozens of poeple, children, some in carraiges, came running into our building. There was screaming, chaos, and worst of all the shock that came with the unexpected siren.
Here we live our daily lives, going about routine so regurlarly, obviously aware of the terrible fighting thats going on in our country, but thinking that its so far from us. And than lo and behold, we found ourselves scrambling for shelter. Bichasday hashem, noone was hurt and the rocket unbelievably fell in Arab territory! But it was a real wakeup call for us!
Peace-seekers who look to negotiate with the un-reasonable Hamas terrorists were suddenly hit ha rd in the face of reality!! WAR MODE has made its way over, creeping into the alleyways of the sheltered, and closest communities. We’ve had 150 rockets aimed at our nation just TODAY alone! 758 since the beggining of the Operation Piller of Defense!!
Children know of a life of war, rockets, sirens and shelters! They are trained in school as part of their education to find shelter within 15 seconds. Innocent children who should know only joy and bliss, know of terror and death. Children who should be playing outside, climbing trees, riding bikes, splashing in puddles, catching frogs, and making carnivals, instead find themselves in the underground miklat seeking shleter form the rain of rockets overhead!! WHAT A LIFE!
And along with all the havoc thats wreaking our once peaceful country, we see nissim geluyim!! Like in the days of the yivanim, we see the Yad Hashem protecting us each and every moment. The head Hamas has been succesfully slaughtered, the siren that sounded in Yerushalayim, was the result of a rocket which landed in Arab territory, the iron domb has stopped many missiles from falling! All this and many more nissim is a result of our tefillos. Many shuls have made a break in middle of davening tehillim. Unfortunately there have been reported a few deaths r”l of innocent yidden. Let us beseech the heavens. Beg Hashem to stop the violent ways of the Yishma’alim yimach shemam! He showing us He’s on our side!! But we must stay close with Him. I implore all our brothers and sisters who have’nt yet made it part of their day to say a few perakim of tehillim for those of us in Eretz Yisroel- civilians, soldiers, those who were wounded nebach…Most of you in America know someone here in E”Y. Lets wake up NOW and do SOMETHING!! Quickly before it may be someone you know who…… r”l. It’s REALLY scary! But we have a HASHEM and a Torah and Tehillim that can save us. And just like the Yevanim who are no more, He will put an end to Yishmael with the arrival of mashiach so soon.
May the geula come quickly and be the ultimate end to all wars!
Your sister abroad,
Rochel
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A reader submitted: Nostrand Avenue and Avenie I in Flatbush has gas with a 1 hour wait.
choppy:
“Are you volunteering?? Because it is a difficult and unpaid job. Are you ready for the harassment by everyone whose post is deleted or edited?”
For a guy who is only a member of the CR since July 5, 2012 (4 days), you sure seem to know an awful lot….
Nuff said.
“And, from what I understand, many people are shying away from here because of it”
Did you take a survey from the 112,000 users?
FYI: This OU alert was published on YWN: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=128296
I’ll take 1-10 (including 10).
FOR THOSE WHO NEED – USE THIS LINK ON YWN FOR TEHILLIM
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/pdf/Tehillim.pdf
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Is this supposed to be a direct message?