@barlshwartz1 I have never seen anything in the Zohar that is “very clear” and that is true for this chelek in Achrei Mos. It talks about cutting hair and doesn’t use any words that mean “shaving off” like the Gemara uses when talking about a Nazir or a Metzorah.

The vaccines are 95% effective. Those 5% who it’s ineffective for are probably grouped in the high risk cases, such as cancer patients or those over 80. Powell was both.

This shows the importance of everyone who didn’t have COVID in the last year to get vaccinated. Vaccinated people are far less likely to spread COVID to those who are in danger.

@avriadearah Acharei Mos. Are you sure? There’s a chelek there that discusses the mitzvah of women covering their hair, and the big zechuyos that come with it. But I don’t see where the Ba’al HaZohar says shaving. My Aramis isn’t great, but he never uses the words “Giluach” or any of its synonyms regarding hair.

On one hand, I understand and respect people who reject any non-Jewish book (and censor even Jewish ones) from their homes. On the other hand, I can never see myself doing that.

@aviradearah This may be my misnagdus coming to the surface, but I am extremely skeptical of any explanation that concludes “for kabbalah reasons”. Do you have a source on the Zohar?

@Health Is like our last thread with another six hour long video that you have difficulty pointing out the period in which the alleged “proof” is given over?

My understanding is that Rav Schneerson ZT”L once spoke about how birthdays are important, so amongst Chabad celebrating birthdays is a big deal.

But why him on Google as opposed to hundreds of other Jewish figures who have done far more for Yiddishkeit and the world, like maybe the RAMBAM, or Rebbi Akiva.

You do realize that to be dati and anti-Chareidi isn’t a stirah.

No.

1. As soon as the results were called, Guiliani et al were already pushing forward various theories about how the election was stolen. All of them were thrown out of court for not having a leg to stand on. This is pretty good evidence that the “stolen election” narrative is an invention for the profit of Trump’s team and nothing else
2. Recently, Arizona’s Maricopa County completed a massive and controversial audit of the election. The worst things that the audit found was a deleted hard drive and a bunch of mail-in ballots that were sent to the wrong address. Neither would have been enough to swing the election results in the state of Arizona
3. Mr. Pillow Man has been releasing video after video claiming to have evidence that the election servers were hacked. He has yet to release a single shred of said evidence and instead resorts to giving air time to people who claim to have seen the hacking
4. Notably, nobody who supports the narrative has had a single consistent story since day one. Every time a claim has been debunked, a new one surfaces. It shows pretty clearly that it’s not a narrative based on data, but rather evidence is being invented to fit the narrative.

@torahvaluesoverparty The Arizona AG, who is the only person you are relying on to interpret this audit, pretty much came out and said that the results don’t show fraud.

To be honest, in this context I don’t like “I don’t know” as an answer. This whole thread has been about eagerly awaiting the audit results and what they show. As soon as they were releases, you and others were quick to jump on it and say that you believe the audit will confirm “tens of thousands” of votes were potentially fraudulent. Now, since we’ve unambiguously shown that it proves nothing of the kind, suddenly you back off with “Well, I don’t know…” as if the data that you’ve been consuming all this time is too complex to chap. (I mean, just last week you were explaining how the medias reporting that the audit showed Biden won was wrong) No, I don’t accept that.

It may take a statistician to look at data and figure out if there’s something fishy their, but you don’t need to have a Gadol sized IQ to realize that a bunch of wrong addresses on a mass mailing are not indicative of anything.

There’s a machlokes if bug extract used for coloring can be eaten. Most Rabbonim are machmir and say no. So it’s not definitely problematic, just meikel on something a little less common.

@torahvaluesoverparty I know what a Bellwether county is, that’s not my point. The question is whether 18 out of 19 wrong means anything. Any half-baked statistician or accountant can tell you that you’re always going to find statistical anomalies in large amounts of real world data. But you have to have an understand of what that data is to know which things are important and which aren’t. Over here, you can glance over at the article on FiveThirtyEight titled “Where did all the Bellwether Counties Go?” which explains in greater detail. For instance, for the last 36 years, every time a Bellwether County voted against the winner, they were dropped from the list. So it’s kind of meaningless data since it’s been changed so many times to fit a result, it’s kind of like saying “Every time Rockland County voted Republican, the Republican won except when they voted Democrat”.

And speaking of FiveThirtyEight, they’ve been writing comprehensive statistical analysis and predictions of political elections for years. For presidential elections they predict by county with a small margin of error. And every election since 2008, including 2020, has been well within that margin (even 2016 when CNN was saying that Clinton has a 99% chance, FiveThirtyEight gave Trump a 1 in 3 chance based on him winning specific counties, which he did). So if you want to leave things to the experts, they certainly come to mind.

There are two very simple questions that you’re not only ignoring, but also making extremely complicated for no reason: Was fraud committed because ballots were sent to the wrong address? Yes or no? Next question: Should every state delay counting for months and spend millions on security audits to squeeze out every possible issue with their ballots? Yes or no?

@aviradearah The logic I’ve heard from Agunah activists is like this. Both sides in a bad divorce have a lot of weapons and ammo to use against each other. And in each case there are advantages and disadvantages that differ from couple to couple. But the one constant is that the husband always has the ability to withhold the get which makes it an uneven playing field.

@common-saychel “Chicken Soup”? “Who is He”? “I Don’t Wanna Go To Shul”? “One Eyed Want More Flying Lukshen Kugel Eater”?

Depends on your community and family. In many places, you’re expected to be self-sufficient before marrying, so you shouldn’t start until you’re in your mid to upper 20s. In some places, you need to have a plan and can rely on parents to start you off until you can be self sufficient in which case, lower 20s is fine. Or there are communities where you don’t have to have a plan, which in case there’s nothing wrong with starting at 19-20. Finally there’s Chassidish, Yerushalmi, and other very frum places where a chussun and kallah are just kids that start living together at night, but still very much family members eating at their father’s table, so they start by 16-17.

@torahvaluesoverparty Not to get personal, but you mentioned seeing “statistical anomalies” yet in previous comments you made blatant errors in basic statistics, such as confusing the population data with the sample data (AZ and Maricopa), and putting significance on a difference that’s way within confidence levels (less than 5% difference in one batch bad ballots). So excuse me for being blunt, but what exactly are these “statistical anomalies” and how do you know you aren’t just making another mathematical error.

@torahvaluesoverparty Brnovich already responded with a non-response. He’s doing the same thing that the Cyber Ninjas did for months, claiming that the mountain of data and information that they have (which shows exactly zero evidence of fraud) isn’t enough because it’s missing a molehill or two. Since AG Brnovich is the one who fought to get this audit done in the first place, he’s an extremely biased party and not exactly the first source I would turn to.

Don’t know much about Eric Adams but he’s been working really hard to curry favor from the frum oilom. I grew up listening to Coytis Sliwa so I’m a little biased towards him.

@torahvaluesoverparty What part of the process is confusing to you?

Don’t you see how your claims have changed? You’ve gone from “Fraud was proven to be committed to the extent that Trump had 20,000 more votes than Biden in AZ” to “Fraud was possibly committed so we have to do more investigation” to “I’m just going to assume fraud was committed until proven otherwise” to now where your story is “I don’t understand the process so I’ll wait for the experts. No, not those experts. No, not those either. No, those are the wrong politicians”

@torahvaluesoverparty Yes the votes should still count. So do you agree with me that the audit did not find any fraud now?

My two arguments are what you referred to in your previous comment.

1. The Cyber Ninjas claims show nothing because the voter gap doesn’t change
2. The findings are pretty meaningless as they show a possible human error, not fraud

What you are saying, in essence, is that there should be an insanely high, near impossible to reach, standard for elections. That after every election there should be a months long audit of everything and if any computer is on the fritz, ballot sent to a guy who moved last week, ballot sent without a middle name, etc. then they should be disqualified. With the end result of pretty much nothing since the errors would be evenly distributed across party lines and not changing the results.

@ujm I had Prodigy which was the big competitor to AOL, CompuServer, and GEnie.

Reb Eliezer @laskern Most of my Rebbeim clung to Juno for way longer than I thought it would be around. I think they all eventually got email-only services set up through some Yeshivish technology organization .

• On Fridays, Rebbi would hand out “Olomeinu” to all kids who subscribed
• As a kid, the number of friends who had TV was about equal to the number of friends who had some sort of online service and it wasn’t zero
• I watched as Kiddushes and Yeshiva dinners slowly started putting up mechitzas
• Friends of mine have kids in Shidduchim, but no friends who I actually knew growing up

@torahvaluesoverparty You’ve repeatedly said comments along the lines of “OK that’s fine for Maricopa, but what about the other counties?”. If nothing is found in Maricopa which, if memory serves correctly, has over half the votes of the entire Arizona, the likelihood of 10,000 fraudulent votes being “found” in the other districts is astronomically low. So there’s really no purpose in talking hypotheticals about the rest of AZ.

Anyhoo, on to the main point. You keep on discussing the “bad” ballots as if there’s no question that they were fraudulent. You have yet to address the fact that the vast majority of these are considered “bad” merely because they were possibly sent to the wrong address. (The issue was that the database the Cyber Ninjas used and the database the county used to look up addresses had discrepancies in about 2% of the addresses, so there’s no guarantee which database was more correct). And while I agree that it was very close and every bit counts, at the end of the day it was still less than 2% of the total ballots that were “bad” which is an incredibly small number and far more reasonable to chalk up to error than fraud.

@torahvaluesoverparty First off, the goalpost movement was you mentioning other counties. We are not discussing other counties nor other states. What we are discussing is whether the Cyber Ninja audit of Maricopa County proves enough fraud to swing Arizona to Trump or not.

We can’t hold a conversation like this when you keep fudging the facts. No, this tiny little batch of ballots was not more than 2x necessary to swing the election. It wasn’t even close. Unless the insanely unlikely circumstances occurred where each and every voter, whether registered Republican, Democrat, or other, was for Biden.

Second, even if there’s an agreement to throw out these ballots, there’s still no evidence of anything worse than some address mistakes. I don’t know how you are drawing the line from “A bunch of ballots were sent to the wrong addresses” to “there was definitely fraud committed”.

@torahvaluesoverparty Not the whole Arizona, just Maricopa County. Don’t start goalpost movements. You’re essentially admitting that the Maricopa audit found nothing but won’t change your opinion because maybe a different county that wasn’t audited had more issues. I don’t know, why stop there? Maybe Trump won with 85% of the vote because every city, state, and county in the US didn’t spend three months meticulously detailing every wrong address a ballot was sent to, you can’t prove it wrong!

The “bad” ballots were the issues that crop up when dealing with two million humans. The largest batch of “bad” ballots had the issue that they were sent to the wrong address. If I had two million letters to send out and only less than 2% were addressed wrong, I would call that a resounding success. So no, you can’t just throw them out. And even if you could, Biden would still have a lead.

The audit proves nothing and strongly indicates there was no fraud and there’s zero evidence that fraud was committed anywhere else. Can we please put this to rest?