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Why can’t they arrange a hesped in a few hours? We always arrange levayas on a few hours notice.
“Sure. This would also further their invidious goals, reducing bnei torah to indentured auxiliary servitude.”
I don’t understand this phrase. What is wrong with accountability? Soldiers protect the land, and they answer to their superiors. WHat’s wrong with Yeshiva Students doing the same, considering that most people say that is also protecting the land. Many of them don’t even bother showing up for Minyan on time.
The reason they want to draft Yeshiva Bocherim into the army, is to equalize the sacrifice that they have to make. I don;t think it is fair that some people just sit in Yeshiva, not necessarily learning, and the CHILONIM die while protecting the country. People could sit in Yeshiva all their lives, EXCEPT when they are helping to protect ALL the Jews in the army.
I had a first cousin was killed in Sinai. We also have several uncles who were frum, and served in the army as career soldiers.
More Torah = More Protection, is a nice phrase, but tell that to my aunt who lost a son, because he wasn’t sitting in Yeshiva.
Israel is a small country, and all it’s citizens should take part in its defense.
I think people should get married when they are ready, and able to support themselves.
I don’t think that when Chazal said “Shemoneh Esrei L’Chuppah”, they meant that someone else should pay the bills. That is simply playing house.
It also says in the Gemorah that if someone doesn’t teach his son a trade, he is bringing up a thief.
There are times when out of town girls come to New York and set up a few dates through Shadchanim.
In general, I think that a guy should go to the girl. I would not allow my daughter to go to the guy. If he doesn’t value or respect her enough to come to her the first time, he will never respect her after they get married.
When a guy is ready to get married, he should be able to tear himself away from Yeshiva long enough to meet a girl. After all, getting married is also a Mitzvah, isn’t it? Or because of Bitul Torah, should they have the date in the Bais Hamidrash?
Zeeskite:
Eze hu Oysher? Hasomeach B’Chelko.
BTW – Flatbush here too.
Frumguy, what have you been doing until now?
I have had quite a few similar situations. In most cases my bosses ordered in Kosher food. In cases where they didn’t, I just had some drinks. In cases where the meeting wasn’t important, like in one case it was a Holiday party, I refused to go even for drinks.
If you live and work in New York, most bosses will have their working lunches in a Kosher restaurant, if you explain your situation to them.
As far as the original question is concerned, should girls daven, I think that should be left to the parent to decide and manage, in conjunction with the girl’s Yeshiva, and their Posek, if they wish to consult one. It is certainly not the business of any visitor who goes to someone’s house for Shabbos. I don’t believe you have any business “gently questioning” their mothers. If you did that in my house, while you were a Shabbos guest, I would gently tell you that it is none of your business. I certainly wouldn’t ask you if you davened or not.
Why are people always so concerned about what others do? Are you so perfect in your actions, that you have nothing to improve upon, and you can start on your neighbors and friends? Why don’t you just live and let live. If we all did that, this world would be so much better.
“Conservative and Reform are not Judaism.”
Very interesting comment.
First, let me say that I am Orthodox, and FFB.
Second, keep in mind that Hitler did not differentiate between Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Neolog, or any other kind of Jew. They all died side by side in Auschwitz.
Third, the HIAS, and NYANA, which are part of the Federation, mostly financed by Secular Jews, financed most of the newcomers who came here after WWII, and as far as I know, none of the Orthodox objected to getting Reform or Conservative money to start a new life. The HIAS also financed Jewish life in the Eastern Block Communist countries, and the Federation still supports Jewish life in the former satellite countries. If you don’t respect Reform and Conservative Judaism, at the very least, you owe the Hakoras Hatov, because your own ancestors were probably helped financially by them.
Remember, that there are plenty of GOYIM who hate all of us. We don’t need any Jew hating another Jew.
We also have a Kiruv Industry, that costs us many millions of dollars. The idea behind it is that there is always the Pintele Yid in every Jew. If that applies to someone who keeps nothing, shouldn’t it also apply to Conservative and Reform Jews who keep something according to their movement. I have heard of many cases where the children of Secular or non-religious Jews turned Orthodox. By the way, there are also cases of Orthodox parents having children who go off the derech. Do you think if Chas V’Sholom that happened to you, you would throw away your child? I know of one very prominent Rabbi, whose daughter married a Puerto Rican non-Jew, but she eventually got divorced and turned frum again. Should he have said she is not Jewish and throw her away?
Nobody knows what life holds for us, so let’s leave judgement where it belongs, to Hashem.
You misread his comment. He said the movements are not Judaism, not that the people are not Jews. 95
If you are a mandated reporter, your job could be in jeopardy and you could be sued if you do not follow the law. Therefore, I believe, that any ROV would allow you to report, and not put your job at risk. If that is the case, what is the point of asking a ROV? Would he Pasken against the law?
Someone actually wrote an article in the Jewish Press not too long ago, making the same point.
I think that the classiness comes from valuing education. There were plenty of poor Jews in Hungary, but the education was more universal and then in many other places. They also believed in secular education, and that made it easier to make a living.
I think all the comments about chandeliers are cheap shots that have no place in a blog on YESHIVAWORLD.COM. Remember that we have been stereotyped by goyim for centuries. There is no reason to do it to ourselves. If you think that Hungarian Jews are classy, you are welcome to learn from them. If you find the chandelier flashy, don’t buy one, just get a fluorescent light fixture. And skip the nastiness, or at least don’t be nasty in such a public forum. You never know who will read it.
It is sometimes very difficult to deal with other people’s problems, so only get involved if you think that you can handle it. If your involvement helps her, but as a result you will need outside help, then I don’t believe that you should get involved.
One more thing. If she gets “Horrifically Nasty” again, like she did in the past, I would definitely tell her that she is out of line, and if she does it again, you will cut off all contact. (The only reason I would give her one more chance, is because you did not object the last time, so she may not be aware that she hurt you.)
I think that if you play a wedding, you pretty much have to play what the Baal Simcha wants. They know their crowd, and presumably know what they would like.
A simcha is made for the enjoyment of the Baal Simchas and their guests. I see nothing wrong with playing some Russian songs at a wedding of people who come from Russia, or Hungarian for people who come from Hungary.
People like what they grow up with. As long as you don’t play inappropriate songs, like Never on a Sunday, at a wedding.
But PLEASE keep the volume at a bearable level, so we don’t go home deaf. I have gone home from quite a few weddings before the main course, because the noise was unbearable. That is not a Simcha, it is torture.