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  • in reply to: Lakewood's sociological style #945141
    yosef999
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    I want to live among my own that is one reason why Lakewood is almost certainly out. That does not mean it is not a consideration.

    Squeak: how often to you converse with moon men?

    in reply to: Questions About Monsey's Litvish/Chasidish Sociological Mix #1132827
    yosef999
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    I am a Jew I am a Jew I am a Jew.

    Ani Yosef Haod avi chai?

    Ich been a yid.

    Anee Yihudee.

    Ich bin gimalt.

    How else can I possibly say it?

    in reply to: Questions About Monsey's Litvish/Chasidish Sociological Mix #1132822
    yosef999
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    I am sorry if this thread is giving off the wrong tone. I started it off perhaps in the wrong way, but there has been great input. I really do appreciate it.

    in reply to: Questions About Monsey's Litvish/Chasidish Sociological Mix #1132820
    yosef999
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    abiecab: I would not have an issue with that statement, actually. I for one could not live amongst blacks. I do not dislike blacks but I couldn’t live with them.

    Millions of whites nowadays would tell you the same thing. Do you they are all black haters? Perhaps 50 years ago more of it would have been motivated by racism, however in the past half century there has been a massive liberal push toward equality and the younger generation for the most part do not dislike blacks (how many whites voted for Obama? would never have happened a generation ago)

    Yet, most communities have a predominate color, mode of living, level of income etc. Yes there are places that are integrated, but that is not the general rule. Take a ride through inner cities, suburban communities and rural areas or up in the mountains. You could even ride through any of the boroughs of New York City and it becomes immediately apparent that humanity dwells amongst its own sub classes.

    No, I do not have an issue with other Jews. I do however think that if you can not understand something as straight forward as this you are not very intelligent.

    in reply to: Questions About Monsey's Litvish/Chasidish Sociological Mix #1132816
    yosef999
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    kollel_wife: very well put.

    I just want to mention as an aside that terms such as litvish, misnagdish, yeshivish, modern etc – although they conjure up in the mind a general idea – mean different things to different people. Some reflect ancestry and style others reflect political and or levels/types of religiosity. Some people think of “litvish” or “yeshivish” as a level of frumkeit, others think of it as a mode of dress/style/attitude. “modern” is also a very large and varied spectrum and these things have more to do with each persons perspective and background than anything else. Even within these general boundaries there are the “in town” types and the “out of town” types, “Hungarian” (style not background) yekkish and on and on until you want to throw up.

    I am writing this because some people are suggesting that I meet this Rabbi or check out this area. I really do appreciate it – however I think Kollel_Wife really hit in on the head. I gotta do the tour. Stay for shabbos and a couple days here and there and feel it out.

    I just do not got the time…another issue.

    Anyway, everyone thanks for all the input. This OP has been very enlightening.

    in reply to: Questions About Monsey's Litvish/Chasidish Sociological Mix #1132806
    yosef999
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    momx4, with all due respect, I am not sure where you got this idea in your head that I am yeshivish because I am not. Nor do I want to be. I hate to be rude, but I do not believe a word you wrote. I do not believe that they will not give you an aliya if you have a different havarah or anything else you wrote. I think you are super super super sensitive.

    Monseeyid, you claim that you like all Jews yet you wrote a vicious thing about a whole group of Jews in Teaneck. Your double standard is glaring. I sure hope I do not find a home near yours and my kids do not go to your kids school. And I hope they do not associate with Talmud’s kids either since they are probably horrible people. Read his post.

    A lot of nice other folk however. I hate to be mean, but some bloggers who on the one hand defend Jews, on the other hand scorn other types, instead of just being happy with who they are. There is nothing wrong with not wanting to be in a community of a different type, there is something wrong with hating them.

    I do not hate. I am simply sure of what I want and do not want.

    in reply to: Questions About Monsey's Litvish/Chasidish Sociological Mix #1132799
    yosef999
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    Thank you Writersoul. Your comments are most informative.

    in reply to: Questions About Monsey's Litvish/Chasidish Sociological Mix #1132797
    yosef999
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    Hi,

    Maybe I should have worded the OP differently however I think that there are a lot of super sensitive people out there.

    I do not want to live among-st Chasidim. They are fine people but I still would rather be surrounded by my own. Why the big deal?

    Very many communities the world over are of a specific type. Yes, there is always variation – no one is the same – but there is a certain style. And when a neighborhood starts to change, people of one kind start to move out. Why? Can’t they just live and let live? The answer is that it is not about hate. It is about personal preference.

    If you know anything about the different communities of New York over the last century it is 100% true.

    Not everyone that says something that rubs you wrong is an Anti Semite. I know that comes as a surprise but try to digest it.

    in reply to: Questions About Monsey's Litvish/Chasidish Sociological Mix #1132790
    yosef999
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    I have been to Flatbush, and although Borough Park is next door, you do not feel like you live among-st Chassidim at all. The area I have been to feels pretty much “misnagdish”. So I suppose Flatbush would be a good parallel. Chasidim live in the next neighborhood over, yet one can live in Flatbush among-st their own.

    You can go to 13th ave to shop or visit B.P. but your neighborhood is your own type. The same thing with Crown Heights and all the areas in Brooklyn of what I have seen.

    But the feel I am getting from the bloggers is that Monsey is not like that. It is less segregated. However due to the fact that it is suburban you do not feel it as much. Correct?

    Can anyone who knows both places try and compare the two locations with regard to the chasidish/misnagdish sociological blend.

    thanks

    in reply to: Questions About Monsey's Litvish/Chasidish Sociological Mix #1132782
    yosef999
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    I am not the Teaneck style, I just used it as an illustration. You seem to be the hating type. Calm down. No need to hate. If monsey is full of your type I probably should look elsewhere.

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