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Mr. Rebbetzin, I don’t disagree that everyone must be respectful when discussing these rabbis, even if they had very different viewpoints than most rabbonim. And no one was. But that being said, it is respectful to point out that paskening dinei nefoshos shailos is different than paskening kashrus shailos. Not every posek who can pasken on kashrus can pasken on dinei nefoshos. One might be able to pasken this chicken is kosher or using such and such ingredients is kosher but cannot pasken take Reuven off the respirator and r”l let him be niftar. That’s a generic point I’m making not specific to any particular rabbis.
That point being made, I’ll also point out that most or all of the rabbonim on Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah, to take an example of a group of rabbonim, are bigger talmidei chachomim than the ones you’ve cited.
And to state the obvious, Rabbi Schachter, while certainly a big talmid chochom, is very much an outlier whose many positions are very much not accepted in normative/traditional Orthodoxy. Indeed, the Orthodox Union itself, while very fine for kashrus matters (generally), is officially a Modern Orthodox organization that takes many positions anathema to the Gedolei Yisroel of today and yesteryear.
It is supposed to be a “Jewish non-state”; so since that’s their belief (like it is of most of the rest of Orthodoxy), they’re actually correct.
Thus your question has no legs or standing.
WoW is rishus. WoW supports Reform. WoW wants to destroy Torah Judaism at the Kosel HaMa’aravi itself!
NK has the correct beliefs but at most goes a little bit overboard aiming for Torah-true objectives. The same objectives as the rest of Gedolei Yisroel of yesteryear and today. They go overboard on trying to convey to the world that Orthodox Judaism is opposed to Zionism and opposed the establishment of the State.
So we can take it that Mr. Rebbetzin would redt shidduchim between Brisker bochorim and girls that go to the movies Friday night.
In prewar Warsaw there were wives who R”L were at the movies Friday night while their husband was home making Kiddush.
According to Mr. Rebbetzin this would suggest that a shidduch between a Yeshiva bochor with a girl who goes to the movies on Shabbos is a good shidduch to redt.
The bottom line is that the shidduch in the OP is no different than the idea of a shidduch between a Brisker bochor and a girl who is a member of and prays in a Conservative/Masorti synagogue.
And Israel is in galus.
That’s incorrect. Israel is not safe or safer from antisemitism. Are American/European/Australian Jews as threatened by Iranian nukes or Hamas suicide bombers or an Arab country attacking as Israeli Jews are threatened?
The fact remains that the bottom line is more Jews are killed in Israel than anywhere else in the world. As a practical matter Israel is the most dangerous country for a Jew to live.
You’re talking about the Dr. Lamm that called Bnei Torah “cavemen” and was condemned for it by the Gedolei HaTorah such as HaRav Elya Svei zt”l.
The following is the text of a letter written by Rav Shlomo Miller, rosh kollel of Kollel Avreichim of Toronto, head of the Bais Horaah of Lakewood, regarding the issur of a married woman to go with her uncovered and the efforts of some to reinterperate the halacha:
Behold I have seen the article written by an individual as if chas veshalom according the Tur and Shulchan Aruch there is no issur for (married) women to go out with uncovered hair, and the entire issur stems from the law of Das Yehudis [whereas the Gemara states explicitly the opposite] and in our times there is no law of Das Yehudis.
And all the lengthy diatribe therein is nothingness and an evil spirit, and the lengthy article that he wrote on this matter is similar to the responsa written by “Acher,” that is Aharon Chariner, who the Chasam Sofer lashed out against, and all the words of the aforementioned “Acher” were the foundation to permit the reformers, as is well known. And so too can be compared the responsa of the aforementioned matir, and it is not the place here to be mefalpel in this matter.
And with this I signed on 14 Teves 5771.
HaRav Shlomo Eliyahu Miller
Stop picking your nose.
Rabbi JB Soloveitchik is not an undisputed godol and posek. If that’s your source you’ll need to stick to the modern crowd.
The Chofetz Chaim lamented that breaches in tznius were common in his time, too. That doesn’t mean there’s any justification for such breaches. And when the Aruch Hashulchan and Ben Ish Chai lament that it was common that some didn’t cover their hair, they very much condemn that flagarant violation of Halacha. So your use of the Aruch Hashulchan is very much disingenuous as the A”H is saying the exact opposite of what you’re trying to claim. Namely, he specifically writes it is a terrible aveira to leave the hair uncovered.
I am familiar with one Rov who there’s a picture of from about 80 years ago where his wife’s hair allegedly wasn’t covered. Even assuming that was the case, when he was the yungerman when that photo was taken was long before he because a big rabbi in his community. I don’t believe he was even a pulpit Rabbi yet at the time; He certainly wasn’t a godol then and his wife’s action then, assuming that’s what happened, aren’t by definition a demonstration of what is or isn’t permitted under Halacha.
There’s more anti-Semitism and killing of Jews in Israel than any other country with a large Jewish population.
Where are you going to move to? Israel is less safe than America and Europe.
avreichem: There was no disrespect. And he does push Zionism.
Mr. Rebbetzin: You have not named any nor provided any sources to such allegations. Direct us, if you will, to where you’ve identified such.
Your “yesh al mi lismoch” must be referring to Prof. Michael Broyde, whom I need not remind you what HaGaon HaRav Sholomo Miller said about him in response to that comment of his.
writer: It’s been the case that the US protected its Jewish citizens as well as Jews outside its borders. On the other hand, we know from Jewish history that anti-Torah Jews caused the most problems for Torah Jews. There’s no reason to think the Zionists are any better and ever reason to see they’re far worse than the goyim.
Mr. Rebbetzin: There are many people you can trust as a mashgiach that are completely unreliable on hashkafic and halachic matters.
Being a mashgiach isn’t all that much.
Mr. Rebbetzin: You’re twisting the facts. That only occurred the first year when he forgot to tell his new second wife that he doesn’t eat gebrokts and she already prepared the meal with gebrokts. It was an onus, one time and done to avoid embarrassing her
Mr. Rebbetzin: You can trust any kosher keeping Jew for kashrus but not for psak, Torah interpretations, history or stories.
Mr. Rebbetzin: You can trust Mickey Mouse if you want. But RHS isn’t a reliable source when it comes to him selling his Zionism.
Mr. Rebbetzin: I challenge you to name one or two of the allegedly “many great bnei Torah (and even gedolim) of previous generations had wives that did not cover their hair.”
It simply doesn’t exist. You are stretching, by a long long shot, the definition of great Bnei Torah and Gedolim.
And you’d have a hard time finding anywhere where the husband and wife differ about an eiruv. If the husband’s shitta is that the eiruv is invalid, unkosher and Chillul Shabbos, the wife is prohibited from utilizing it. Period.
writer: “the difference between being forced out of Israel or a foreign land is that at least you know Israel is your land no matter what and it’s the only place in the world that you know belongs to you.”
So what. That’s a nice thought but it has nothing to do with anti-Semitism or where is safer. Israel has more antisemitism and is less safe than other places.
And the IDF is not more likely to save Yidden than the US Army is. In fact, the IDF already does look at many Yidden as the enemy, tries to forcibly conscript them into their secular anti-Torah melting pot to shmad them into their anti-religious Israeli society. The IDF is less likely to save the Yidden they hate than the US Army is.
Things are more out of control in Israel than in the English speaking countries.
Fenster is a commonly used word in America among Yiddish speakers. Seems to be a poor example.
That’s a false attribution to the Chazon Ish.
ZD: I don’t think you know Chasidic Yiddishk too well if you think it’s anything like Yinglish. Chasidic Yiddish is very much the same as prewar European Yiddish spoken in Chareidi Europe.
You’d have a slightly better argument claiming that Litvish Yiddish today, in some circles, is a bit more like Yinglish. But even then that would only apply outside Eretz Yisroel.
Lucy — can you please define the difference(s) between the chilled crowd and the tuna beigel crowd?
writer: I’m not sure how familiar you are with Jewish history, but we Jews have been killed and thrown out of Eretz Yisroel on a large scale already. And don’t be foolish enough to think that the IDF can save you. The American Army can do a better job than them.
Today the worst and most murderous anti-Semitism anywhere in the world that occurs where there’s a large Jewish population is in Israel.
Mistykins: I only said about the wife’s brothers. Nothing about aunts and nieces. If you disagree with that, you need to argue with Chazal not with me.
Is the chilled crowd the same as the tuna beigel crowd?
There’s even worse antisemitism in Israel. In fact Israel has worse antisemitism than even Europe, which is worse than America. As bad as it’s in the US, that’s not what would scare people to move to Israel. If Americans were to move away because they’re scared, they’d move to Australia.
Mr. Rebbetzin, I’m not sure what you’re האַקן אַ טשײַניק. There’s no Halacha, either, that you cannot marry a glutton who dresses like a shlemazal and spends 11 hours a day reading Harry Potter.
Why in the world would you reject an “eitza tova” from Chazal??
Milhouse, that makes two of us.
The main thing a guy needs to consider in a potential shidduch, as Chazal tell us, is the girl’s brothers. Because his children will turn out like her brothers.
A wife is required to change to her husband’s minhagim and shittos, upon marriage.
The OPs proposed shidduch isn’t much different than a Lakewood guy with a wife wearing short skirts.
They think they’re stylish. More like girlish.
The limo indeed is a luxury. So are most things that occur at weddings today.
I never heard of the friends of the choson soliciting funds to pay for the limo. The chasanim that use a limo generally pay for it themselves or from their parents.
Yiddish is holy by virtue of it being the primary and exclusive language of Jews for over a thousand years. Even if it is our chol language.
Loshon Kodesh is holier by virtue of it being the language of the Torah, even if not our spoken language. A language reserved for use only of kedusha.
assurnet: What’s the point of you having a kosher phone if you also have a non-kosher phone?
“My parents were ill and dying, and then for the shiva,. Still going to maintain that it’s assur?”
You violate a bigger issur for leaving than anyone who doesn’t live there might violate for not moving there.
Ivrit is Creole Hebrew.
Oh please, ZD. Don’t try to excuse or pretend that having a new model car is because of safety or cost. At least admit it is due to taaiva.
Yiddish is of course holier than English, Ivrit and Farsi but, obviously, Loshon Kodesh is holier than Yiddish.
Due to the kedusha of Loshon Kodesh, it shouldn’t and mustn’t be used as an everyday chol language. Which is why Yidden have Yiddish. And Loshon Kodesh for Torah.