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JosephParticipant
If you’re categorizing the standard Satmar shidduch as something other than an arranged marriage, you’ll have to explain your definition of an arranged marriage. The standard Satmar shidduch is setup with very little input (in the sense of them choosing who to — or not to — meet) from the boy and girl before the first meeting. They then meet once or twice in their home and make a decision — a decision that was generally preordained as a yes before they ever met.
And that’s more or less the same as its done by most of the other major and minor chasiduses. The old time Sefardim also, even today, utilize something close to an arranged marriage — at a young age, even if their system does differ from the Chasidim.
April 4, 2019 8:55 am at 8:55 am in reply to: Whats Baltimore like nowadays.Still OOT or suitable for intown fam #1709135JosephParticipantYseribus: Your comment is certifiably a farce. There’s nothing to even argue about. FBI crime statistics clearly show that NYC is the safest big city in the entire United States, where B”H these days a “crime” that makes the news in the frum communities is when someone spay paints a swastika overnight, whereas the same statistics testify that Baltimore is currently undergoing a violent crime surge since the police pullback after Freddy Gray that makes the city the most crime ridden and unsafe big city in the United States.
Don’t believe me; believe the FBI.
April 4, 2019 8:55 am at 8:55 am in reply to: Lessons From The Amish Measles epidemic of 2014 #1709134JosephParticipantThere’s also been hospitalizations and ICU for those with the common cold. They are rare even among those who contract the virus.
April 3, 2019 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm in reply to: How Shidduchim became a beauty pageant contest. #1708761JosephParticipantThe fact that many people purchase homes, cars, and many other things which are unnecessarily ostentatious is not, in today’s world, irreconcilable with sincerity in Limud HaTorah
Incorrect. It is irreconcilable.
April 3, 2019 9:14 am at 9:14 am in reply to: Whats Baltimore like nowadays.Still OOT or suitable for intown fam #1707729JosephParticipantWhere do the Chasidim I’m Baltimore send their kids to school? Are the Chasidim in Baltimore the same type of Chasidim you’d find in Boro Park, Williamsburg and Monsey?
April 3, 2019 12:49 am at 12:49 am in reply to: How Shidduchim became a beauty pageant contest. #1707652JosephParticipantWB, mm22.
April 2, 2019 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm in reply to: Chief Rabbi of Bnei Brak HaGaon HaRav Moshe Yehuda Leib Landau – a Lubavitcher? #1707604JosephParticipantSomeone above posited in a comment that Lubavitch became a totally different entity after the last Rebbe assumed leadership than it was under all the previous Lubavitcher Rebbes.
Does anyone disagree with that?
April 2, 2019 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm in reply to: How Shidduchim became a beauty pageant contest. #1707605JosephParticipantThe rampant pritzus of short skirts is far worse than wearing pants.
April 2, 2019 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm in reply to: Donald Trump should not be the President of the United States #1706862JosephParticipantOf course The Donald shouldn’t be President. He should be King:
JosephParticipantLit: And the Sefardic derech is chopped liver?
April 2, 2019 8:47 am at 8:47 am in reply to: Lessons From The Amish Measles epidemic of 2014 #1706513JosephParticipant“Because the vast majority of them vaccinate.”
Yet with the minority that consistently doesn’t vaccinate it is so low. Apparently then we can tolerate the current minority who chooses not to vaccinate.
April 2, 2019 7:21 am at 7:21 am in reply to: Lessons From The Amish Measles epidemic of 2014 #1706434JosephParticipantFrom the Associated Press today:
“For most people, measles is miserable but not life-threatening. The most common symptoms include fever, runny nose, cough, and a rash all over the body. However, a very small fraction of people get much sicker, and can suffer complications like pneumonia and swelling of the brain. Also, measles can cause pregnant women to deliver prematurely.
There have been three measles-related deaths reported in the U.S. since 2000, including two in 2003 and one in 2015.”
If it is only “miserable but not life-threatening”, how is it much different than chicken pox we all got as kids? Worst comes to worst, those that catch measles will be miserable until they get better.
Three deaths in 20 years among a population of over 300,000,000 Americans is less severe than the common cold. Even complications short of death appears to be rarer than many other common illnesses. Measles doesn’t seem to be this monster some of the more extreme forced-vaccination supporting crowd portrays it. Even if one does contract it.
P.S. I vaccinate everyone using the full CDC recommended schedule.
JosephParticipantIs this an April Fools gag?
April 2, 2019 7:18 am at 7:18 am in reply to: Chief Rabbi of Bnei Brak HaGaon HaRav Moshe Yehuda Leib Landau – a Lubavitcher? #1706424JosephParticipantMany Lubavitcher Rabbonim wear a traditional Rabbonishe uphat even though the Lubavitcher Rebbe himself did not, and rather wore the same downhat as the vast majority of his Chasidim?
JosephParticipantDid I somewhere within the over 1,400 funny shidduch stories posts on this thread over the past 10+ years ever retell the story of my date with Dr. Pepper’s sister?
April 1, 2019 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm in reply to: Chief Rabbi of Bnei Brak HaGaon HaRav Moshe Yehuda Leib Landau – a Lubavitcher? #1706394JosephParticipantWhy didn’t he dress the Lubavitcher way? He wore an uphat (shtreimal?), bekeshe, etc.
JosephParticipantSyag, your kids can marry their cousins.
April 1, 2019 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm in reply to: It’s different OOT>>>>>We work together as one community #1706170JosephParticipantSchecter Day Schools aren’t Orthodox.
JosephParticipant“I felt that I have to be here for you.”
Did they get married?
JosephParticipantDr P, thereafter did you continue shlepping to the laundromat (although I suspect the real intent was laziness in doing your own washes) or did you violate your wife’s directive and actually fix the machine?
JosephParticipant“Got permission to come back for today!”
Who wears the pants in the house?
April 1, 2019 10:43 am at 10:43 am in reply to: Donald Trump should not be the President of the United States #1705974JosephParticipantThis is Mored b’Malchus. You can be executed without trial, RY23.
JosephParticipantOU stopped certifying him.
JosephParticipantIt ain’t March 14. You’re mixing up Pie Day with the fools.
March 31, 2019 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm in reply to: Whats Baltimore like nowadays.Still OOT or suitable for intown fam #1705713JosephParticipantCrime in Baltimore has shot through the roof since the Freddie Gray incident four years ago, with the police pulling back after having their hands tied behind their backs by the new spotlight seeking State Attorney filing charges against the officers.
JosephParticipantMilhouse, the NT timeline can be fictitious. As such, you cannot rule out on that basis Yeshu Hanotzri or Ben Stodo at being the same person as the Christian deity.
JosephParticipantMilhouse,
“They fully agree that the Rebbe is capable of dying”
In three years the Rebbe will be 120 years old. Does this mean they’ll all change their minds and agree thereafter that the Rebbe clearly isn’t on this world?
March 31, 2019 12:31 am at 12:31 am in reply to: Why did joseph tell me to short apple on jan 4th?!?! #1705112JosephParticipantI was manipulating the market to run up a profit on my investments.
March 31, 2019 12:14 am at 12:14 am in reply to: Going t Kever Rochel – “Mama Rochel helf mir” #1705086JosephParticipantI think the Coffee Room has become the Chabad Room.
JosephParticipantMilhouse: Why, then, has there been strong opposition *within Lubavitch* to the appellation “shlita” upon the Lubavitcher Rebbe zt”l?
March 29, 2019 9:00 am at 9:00 am in reply to: Can you steal something from a friend if its bad for him #1704669JosephParticipantIn Yeshiva we are taught that not only are you allowed but it is a mitzvah to break someone else’s television.
JosephParticipantMM: That’s incorrect both historically and factually. The rabbinical establishment didn’t oppose their founding. Decades later the establishment in Lithuania came out opposed. But that was long after the Chasidim were already established and were effectively already part of the rabbinical establishment.
JosephParticipantBefore the haskala the entire organized Jewish community was what today is called Orthodox. Of course then they didn’t have a name since there was nothing else.
JosephParticipantThey say that every topic under the sun has already been discussed in this Coffee Room and everything nowadays is merely chazara:
JosephParticipantMy best friend is a skinhead.
JosephParticipantAvram: Do you oppose the death penalty for murder in the US? If so, could the law regarding capital punishment be enacted in any way that you’d support it (for murder or other crimes)?
JosephParticipantSechel: Lubavitchers look down upon Rav Aharon Kotler, Rav Aharon Feldman and Rabbi Hershel Schachter?
JosephParticipantUbiq proffered that I’d be the only one here supporting laws outlawing adultery. So far already both Avram and Avi K stated agreement that local laws should outlaw adultery. So much for that prediction of popular opinion.
Now, of course, I’d support imprisonment (as the 21 U.S. states who currently outlaw adultery mostly prescribe in their penal codes) and capital punishment (as some states historically prescribed) as the penalty for that crime. I also think others here will agree with my position as such.
JosephParticipantIf it will be so obvious to everyone, as various above posters are claiming (in different ways), how were any of the multiple false Moshiachs ever able to fool so many people, including great talmidei chachomim?
March 26, 2019 6:57 am at 6:57 am in reply to: Chabad? Most non religious Jews are not halachikly Jewish. #1701609JosephParticipant“I personally know a prominent Chabad Mohel who declined to do the bris of a the child of a very famous and wealthy couple where the wife was a Giyores of a frum Beis Din, because a concerns about the Kabolas HaMitzvos, or the lack of it.”
Another excellent point drawing attention to another example of goyim R”L mixing into Klal Yisroel. Even purported “geirim” of so-called “Orthodox” beit dins are often fake converts.
This, too, is very common.
“regarding “Mihu Yehudi”, and the concern of Goyim in Eretz Yisroel being considered Jews under the Law of Return”
And yet another example of goyim pretending to be Jews. This time in Eretz Yisroel. And literally numbering in the hundreds of thousands when considering the fake conversions the Israeli rabbanut recognizes among the Russian gentiles in the state.
“Once, I was being Mesader Kiddushin, and under the Chuppa I discovered that the Chosson was not in fact a Yid, and I was saved from making a Bracha Levatala R”L…”
Another all-too-common scenario. More often than not it isn’t stopped in time and remains unrecognized r”l.
March 25, 2019 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm in reply to: Chabad? Most non religious Jews are not halachikly Jewish. #1701523JosephParticipant“I’ve heard from a Shliach that he has to turn away majority of couples looking for him to be Mesader Kiddushin due to lack of proof of their Yiddishkait.”
This point should tell you so so much. Did you hear yourself say that? A MAJORITY of people that the kiruv workers deal with cannot even prove they are Jewish!
Do you realize how shocking this is?! A majority of these guys that are being “mekareved” may be outright goyim.
How can anyone wonder how the discussion in this thread is indeed a real issue and threat to Klal Yisroel?
You say that Chabad makes sure they don’t facilitate marriages with these questionable people; and that is to be congratulated. But, nevertheless, these potential non-Jews are hanging around in Orthodox Jewish circles (which is why they’re coming to a Chabad rabbi, in the first place, to try to get married), and even after the first rabbi says “no” they don’t give up. They try Rabbi B and Rabbi C until these goyim R”L marry a Yid under the pretense that they’re a Jew themselves. That is a frequent occurrence. And most of the time they may never be discovered. Then you’ll have their children thinking they’re Jewish and continue to intermarry with Jews.
March 25, 2019 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm in reply to: Chabad? Most non religious Jews are not halachikly Jewish. #1701485JosephParticipantMr. Rebbetzin: Completely incomparable. Here we’re talking about people whose families we know with certainty discarded the Torah and Judaism generations ago. There he didn’t discard the Torah and Judaism.
Furthermore, and this is a point contemporary Gedolei Poskim have made, traditionally throughout the vast majority of history few gentiles wanted to identify as Jewish. Jews were persecuted, prosecuted, expelled from countries, put in ghettos, pograms, Inquisition, Tach V’Tat, genocide, blood libels and holocausts. Thus if despite all that someone identified as Jewish, and he and his ancestors (per his testimony) practiced Torah Judaism, it was believable.
Today, the Poskim said, when there’s benefits to being recognized as Jewish rather than severe costs, self-identifying alone is wholly insufficient; especially considering that we know that we’re now dealing with almost 200 years of false conversions and so-called paternal descent.
March 25, 2019 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm in reply to: Chabad? Most non religious Jews are not halachikly Jewish. #1701303JosephParticipantSechel: Chill out. Despite the name of this topic, not every comment is discussing Chabad. In fact, I believe all my comments on this thread were speaking generally and not of Chabad.
frumguy33: You’re going against Daas Torah. I’ve cited Rav Elyashiv. You’re giving us your boich svaras.
March 25, 2019 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm in reply to: Chabad? Most non religious Jews are not halachikly Jewish. #1700969JosephParticipantThat sort of cavalier attitude is what directly leads to intermarriage.
Hey, she thinks she’s Jewish, she self-identifies as Jewish, so what’s the big deal. Let’s treat her as a Jew and if later a real Jewish man married this gentile woman, why sweat too much about it.
This is exactly what Rav Elyashiv was concerned about, leading him to seriously consider establishing a Yichus Registry to document who is and who isn’t truly a Jew.
JosephParticipantIsrael and Netanyahu should be licking America and Trump’s shoes in hakaras hatov for all America and Trump have done for Israel over the past two years.
Iran, Jerusalem, Golan Heights and more.
March 25, 2019 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm in reply to: Chabad? Most non religious Jews are not halachikly Jewish. #1700859JosephParticipantfrumguy33: In fact Rav Elyashiv mulled creating a Yichus Registry precisely because of problems such as this where we have goyim mixing into Klal Yisroel pretending to be Jewish.
JosephParticipantUbiq: Marriage itself is a thoroughly religious concept. It was created and exists directly due to religious law. I don’t see you advocating that the government end legal recognition of marriages.
Adultery has been illegal in the United States for the vast majority of American history. Its legalization itself came from liberals over the strenuous objections of conservatives. It was one of the earlier parts of the slippery slope that later let you legalizing abortion and toeiva.
March 25, 2019 10:01 am at 10:01 am in reply to: Chabad? Most non religious Jews are not halachikly Jewish. #1700696JosephParticipant40-50 years ago we already had very very many fake converts, many children and grandchildren and than great-grandchildren of paternal descent who thought they were Jewish for generations even though they were 100% goyim for generations.
March 25, 2019 8:45 am at 8:45 am in reply to: Chabad? Most non religious Jews are not halachikly Jewish. #1700626JosephParticipantA guy might 100% think his mother’s mother is Jewish when, in fact, Halachicly she’s a gentile.
March 24, 2019 11:35 pm at 11:35 pm in reply to: Putting a nickname on a matzeva or footstone. Advice welcomed. #1700491JosephParticipantThe name is generally “name ben/bas father”; iow, their formal name. The same they’d be called up to the Torah with.
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