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May 31, 2019 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1736336JosephParticipant
Yabia:
After World War II the Ashkenazic Gedolim and Yeshivos built up the Sefardic children and community in Torah, Rabbonus and Yiddishkeit until the Sefardim were able to establish their own strong yeshivos and chareidishkeit.
JosephParticipantIf there’s 120 seats in the parliament then winning 1/120th of the vote (i.e. less than 1%) should suffice to be awarded one parliamentary seat.
JosephParticipantYseribus: Lifeline. Sometimes incorrectly called an ObamaPhone.
JosephParticipantThe Kosel.
May 31, 2019 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1736247JosephParticipantYou will not find the phrase “posek hador” used anywhere in any meaningful way. The Tzitz Eliezer uses it all over the place in his titles, and either the Teshuvos Maharshal writes it among the titles to the Ramah, or the Teshuvos Ramah about the Maharshal. I forget. But in any case, the title connotes no halachic status.
Rav Moshe isn’t always the final word in America either. Roshei Yeshiva and Poskim, such as Rav Hutner, Rav Eli Meyer Bloch of Telz, the Debreciner Rav, the Chelkas Yaakov and others, sided with the Satmar Rebbe over Rav Moshe regarding the obligatory size of a mechitzah in a shul, and/or the permissibility of artificial insemination, which were the two big disagreements that those Gedoim had in halacha. It was indeed Rav Hutner who approached the Satmar Rav asking him to write a refutation to Rav Moshe’s psak about the Mechitzos.
Godol is a relative term; it means someone who stands out among his generation in greatness, which is measured in terms of Torah knowledge, and righteousness. There is no measurable threshold beyond which you are categorically a “godol”, like there is when a person gets a medical degree and becomes a “doctor.” Being that the term is relative, different people apply it to different levels for people, and even among those who are commonly referred to as Gedolim, they are not all the same. Rav Shach was a Godol, but he was not the Chazon Ish, for example.
May 31, 2019 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm in reply to: The Institutionally Anti-Semitic Democrat Party #1736246JosephParticipant“California Dems propose resolution linking Israeli government to massacre at Pittsburgh synagogue”.
See the news article with that title.
The Democrats are quickly moving up open and official support of antisemitism. Like their British cousins in the Labour Party.
JosephParticipantYou moved out of BP?
JosephParticipantDo they even still make qwerty phones?
JosephParticipantTC: Yes, he has a whole sefer explaining why.
May 30, 2019 9:53 am at 9:53 am in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1735793JosephParticipantNeville — I don’t know about “the” Godol HaDor, but all the members of the Moetzes are Gedolim. So my previous point stands.
JosephParticipantAramaic and Judeo-Arabic are holy.
May 29, 2019 10:47 pm at 10:47 pm in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1735670JosephParticipantNeville — Count how many current members of the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah have a father who was one of the Gedolei HaDor and how many do not.
JosephParticipant“My understanding was that the international language of Rabbis was Hebrew.”
Written language, only. Not spoken language.
JosephParticipantHe singled out the Eida since the Eida is his own affiliated hechsher’s biggest competition and threat since even most Sefardim look at the Eida as the gold standard. And he wants to shake that view due to the aforementioned difference in halachic opinion regarding meat between Ashkenazim and Sefardim, that he obviously and legitimately subscribes to being a Sefardic leader.
JosephParticipant“Unreasonable Democrats” is redundant. There’s never been reasonable Democrats
JosephParticipantTT: For the umpteenth time, that is because the Sefardim have a different shitta in regards to meat than Ashkenazim, and Sefardim don’t consider Ashkenazic meat to be glatt even though Ashkenazim do.
This is an old story.
JosephParticipantLadino is holy. Arabic is not.
JosephParticipantRav Dovid Cohen has a book called “Yiddish — A Holy Language”.
JosephParticipantTT: You’re saying that the Sefardic rabbis of the Sefardic hechsher think that their hechsher is best. What a momentous thought.
Meanwhile the majority of Klal Yisroel in Eretz Yisroel accepts the Eida hechsher as the gold standard unlike any other.
May 29, 2019 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm in reply to: I don’t understand outcome of Mueller report #1735005JosephParticipantThe Democrats are now angry at Mueller, after two years of expecting him to be the Democrats Great Savior that’ll get Trump, since Mueller said he has nothing more to tell Congress than he already put in his report and that he doesn’t want to testify but if they force him he’ll just repeat only points already in the report.
May 29, 2019 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1735002JosephParticipantNeville — Which Gedolim are the father’s of the following Gedolim: Rav Aharon Schechter, Rav Yisroel Belsky, Rav Moshe, Rav Aharon Kotler, Rav Yitzchok Scheiner, Rav Chaim Pinchos Scheinberg, Rav Moshe Hillel Hirsch, Rav Yitzchok Hutner, Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky, etc.?
May 29, 2019 11:22 am at 11:22 am in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1734950JosephParticipant“Gedolei HaDor do not come about from yichus or from succeeding one’s father.”
I think the rest of us are in agreement that this point is silly and untrue.
Neville, I don’t think anyone claims “Godol HaDor” is an inherited position.
You’re again confusing Godol HaDor with town rabbi or Rebbe.
JosephParticipantThe Founding Fathers did not design the American constitutional framework for a political party system nor did they expect it. It only developed after George Washington was President without being part of any political party.
JosephParticipantRav Avigdor Miller on Teaching in Yiddish
Q: The Rav speaks often about the importance of speaking Yiddish. What about teaching in the yeshiva in Yiddish to a class that understands English better; is that the right way?
A: That’s not a moot question; it’s a very important question. It’s worth teaching Yiddish to Ashkenazi boys and girls because in a certain sense it maintains the tradition; it maintains a certain aloofness from the nations – it shows we are a separate people. However, many times the message goes lost in an unfamiliar language. When they teach in a foreign language so the children who barely understand Yiddish are lost – and sometimes the subject matter is so difficult in itself that even in English it’s difficult and now you compound the difficulty by teaching it in Yiddish. And therefore it’s a question.
Some children must have only English instruction. And even then it’s a question if they’ll succeed. Because the Torah subjects are not easy. Chumash for some children is a mountain. It’s remarkable how difficult it is for some children to climb that mountain. And then they need expensive tutors. And gemara?! Gemara is the Alps for some children; many fall down and become discouraged – they become disillusioned because of the difficulties of the studies. And if their difficulty is increased by using a foreign language like Yiddish, it’s a big problem.And therefore, wherever possible English should be used until the child knows the subject. Then Yiddish should be introduced. Exactly how much Yiddish and how much English has to be left to the teacher on the spot.
This I want to say however; nobody should rely on the yeshivos. You shouldn’t rely on a Bais Yaakov. Don’t just put your children in a yeshiva and think they’re being taken care of. You must check every week to see if your child is keeping up with the class or not. If he’s not, it’s a danger sign. Sometimes, boys go very bad because they’re discouraged and disillusioned. And so it’s very important to spend a lot of time with them. If parents can’t hire tutors they should tutor themselves. Some mothers with little boys sometimes spend evenings teaching them chumash; idealistic women do that and it’s a very good investment.
But one word of caution: even though you hire a tutor don’t rely on him. Many times he’s fooling you. He’s taking money and not seeing that your child knows the work. You have to check on the tutor constantly and make sure that the child is learning.
May 28, 2019 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm in reply to: I noticed that Rebbitzen Golden P is blocked. Is that a good, bad or ugly thing? #1734447JosephParticipantSyag, are you referring to the site that you described as to hate on all things religious?
If someone leaves their wallet on the dashboard of their unlocked car, describing that scenario as an easy target for a thief obviously is referring to someone not following the Torah’s expectations.
May 28, 2019 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm in reply to: I noticed that Rebbitzen Golden P is blocked. Is that a good, bad or ugly thing? #1734428JosephParticipantWhich is why I revealed it here first.
imamother’s questions to open an account are so easy for a guy to blast right through.
JosephParticipantRR: And which country’s social studies classes do not indoctrinate?
May 28, 2019 9:59 pm at 9:59 pm in reply to: I noticed that Rebbitzen Golden P is blocked. Is that a good, bad or ugly thing? #1734403JosephParticipantI bet that’s where RGP has been active since getting the boot from here.
May 28, 2019 9:25 pm at 9:25 pm in reply to: I noticed that Rebbitzen Golden P is blocked. Is that a good, bad or ugly thing? #1734397JosephParticipant“also they ask questions which she might not know”
Just Google the answers. Or ask your wife or mother or sister.
JosephParticipant“If your goal is something more democratic like following the will of the people, then…”
Then have a direct democracy and forget parliamentary or representative democracy. Let the people vote directly on laws so the will of the people rule rather than the lesser democracy of a parliament.
May 28, 2019 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm in reply to: I noticed that Rebbitzen Golden P is blocked. Is that a good, bad or ugly thing? #1734305JosephParticipant“However, IMO it’s horrifically ugly that there are zero frum forums where serious females (the types who shrink from aggressive debating) can feel comfortable posting.”
ywnjudy: You have imamother that fits your bill, exactly.
JosephParticipantI (and each of our adult family members as well as various friends and their family) have been making a tiny donation to each Democrat candidates at risk of not making the debate, so that they all qualify to enter the debate, in order to muck up the Democrat debate with too many insignificant candidates crowding out the real ones.
May 28, 2019 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1734271JosephParticipantNeville, you’re confusing two things. Gedolei HaDor do not come about from yichus or from succeeding one’s father. But an appointed position such as town rabbi or Rebbe can be succeeded. But the latter does not make one a Godol HaDor.
JosephParticipantSo what he doesn’t say it. His clientele are Sephardim. Obviously the Gedolei Rabbonim shlita of the Badatz in Yerushalayim hold that the Eida Chareidus is the best hechesher.
It also happends to be most kosher consumers in Eretz Yisroel rely on the Eida Chareidus as the gold-standard of hechsheirim. It has, by far, the widest acceptance. And is run by some of the greatest gedolim.
May 28, 2019 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1734146JosephParticipantNeville: There is strong halachic basis to favoring the child of the deceased rabbi in appointing his successor.
JosephParticipantIvdu Es Hashem B’Simcha.
JosephParticipantIn Eretz Yisroel more people are machmir. In America you have many people who are meikel.
JosephParticipantubiq: Correct me if I’m not following your line of thought/reasoning correctly. You’ve taken the following positions:
1. Most Chareidi men would vote against women’s suffrage today.
2. Joseph claims he would vote against women’s suffrage today.
3. You think there’s a 90% likelihood that Joseph is pulling everyone’s leg on this. (Or Poe’s law or trolling or whatever you want to call it.)
4. You think there’s a 10% likelihood that Joseph is expressing an earnest opinion. In which case Poe/trolling doesn’t apply.
If I’m following you correctly, my question is do you think that having the sincere opinion that women’s suffrage was and is a bad idea is an “extremist” opinion. Then please define why you think it’s extremist. And if so, you by definition think most Chareidi men are extremists.
JosephParticipantubiq: I’d like to understand the stira I mentioned in my last comment. Care to explain?
JosephParticipantubiq: All I can do is assure you that what I posted is 100% sincere and honestly heartfelt.
But I am curious how you accept the “aside and bonus” which asserts that most Chareidi men agree with my position on women’s suffrage when you doubt my own very same position.
JosephParticipantubiq:
1. Your comparison to the gassing is absurd. Even in the ’40s anyone who supported gassing knew it was an extremist/murderous idea. No less than today. They knew, then, if they lost the war they’d be charged with war crimes.
The supporters of the status quo on women’s suffrage pre-1920 were a) in the majority until at least 1915 and b) did not consider their opposition to changing the law on suffrage as being extreme; indeed they considered the supporters of suffrage, who wanted to change the voting system to something never before done in history as being the extremist and c) even supporters of women’s suffrage (pre-1920) did not consider the opponents of the change as being extremists. They obviously disagreed with them but the opposition was seeking to maintain the status quo.
2. Let me assure you 100% b’emunah shelamo with complete and total honesty that I earnestly believe that women’s suffrage was a mistake to have been granted in 1920, that it has had many more negative than positive consequences as a result of it having been granted, that it would be beneficial to society to revoke it today and that if I today had to cast the deciding vote as to whether to continue or to discontinue it I would undoubtedly cast the deciding vote to revoke it.
As an aside and bonus, and this may be more difficult for you to accept but I also truly believe it, I would estimate that most Chareidi men agree with me and, if casting their vote behind a curtain (i.e. in private as voting traditionally is done) they’d vote to revoke it too. But I also think that most of them wouldn’t admit this in a survey.
JosephParticipantJust let California secede into its own country and, shoin, Trump wins the popular vote and America is a deep red country,
JosephParticipantubiq: You’re confused. You’re misunderstanding Poe’s Law. I’m not going to have a back and forth with you on this topic since you have a history of constantly spouting over and over again refuted points (using slightly different verbiage). But I’ll make this point once.
Poe’s Law does NOT apply to someone who sincerely believes in and expresses (online or wherever) an “extremist” point of view. Even in Poe’s case if the writer sincerely believed in Creationism and totally and completely believed that G-d literally created the universe in seven days, Poe admits that his law (Poe’s Law) does not apply in such a case. It only applies to posts parodying or sarcastically mocking an “extremist” view.
Note, again, that Poe believes that believing that the world was created in seven days literally is “extremist”. That demonstrates one person’s extremism is another person’s mainstream. Indeed, we Yidden here know that Poe is an extremist for considering Creationism to be extreme. But that’s all a side point.
Now back to me. Let me ask you, ubiq (or anyone else here), an honest to G-d question: suppose women’s suffrage came up for a vote as to whether to continue or discontinue, and it literally came down to my vote to decide its future. Either as a legislator making the deciding vote after everyone else voted or as a voter casting the tiebreaking vote or however else you imagine this hypothetical where I, Joseph, am casting the deciding vote on the future of woman’s suffrage. Do you ubiq (or anyone else here) seriously doubt how I’ll vote on the issue? I think you know in your heart, without much doubt, that I’ll vote against the continuance of such suffrage.
You might define such a position as “extreme” but I don’t think anyone really doubts that’s how I’d really vote. Now, of course, I’d very much dispute your characterization of that position as extreme in the first place. I’d bring as rayos the question of whether you’d consider the millions of people in the 40% of the voting population who opposed woman’s suffrage prior to its becoming the law of the land (in 1920) as all being millions of extremist people. [On January 12, 1915, a suffrage bill was brought before the House of Representatives and was defeated by a vote of 204 to 174.] I think you wouldn’t consider them all to be extremists. And I’d point out just as their position then wasn’t extreme, taking the same position now isn’t. But the question of whether its an extreme position is anyways all a side point. I think we agree that you know that I’d vote to discontinue that suffrage.
So my position is very much not in doubt. And, as stated, as long as my position expressed in the comments is sincere, there’s no applicability of Poe’s Law. And as Neville pointed out in the OP above, since the expressed position is sincere, it is also defined as not trolling.
May 27, 2019 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm in reply to: Who is Rav Shlomo Kanievsky? Is he being groomed to be the next Godol HaDor? #1733518JosephParticipantHalevi we all had the zchus that the Godol HaDor decided everything for us.
JosephParticipantSM: You got an absolutely excellent answer right there. There’s no additional need for YH to restate the excellent answer given.
JosephParticipantSyag: Please give a few examples of “Chareidi Left-Wing”, in your opinion. TY
JosephParticipantIf a father or brother is named Yehuda, can a newborn girl be named Yehudis?
JosephParticipantYitzchokM: How would you describe the hashkafa of those aligned to Mishpacha/Ahavas? I would tend to assume left of center from a Chareidi perspective, but just wanted to make sure I understood you correctly.
JosephParticipantYW-Mod 100: How’d you fix the Hebrew on the title/OP? Did you have to do it manually for each word or did you have a quicker fix (that might work for other old problematic threads with Hebrew)?
JosephParticipantwhitecar: Trump almost ran for President as the Reform Party candidate in 2000.
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