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YY: And there are also confirmed reports out of China of there being far more cremated ashes being picked up by family members than the official number of deaths out of Wuhan.
You haven’t noticed the pandemic having been highly politicized in China? Or in Iran and Spain, for that matter, where the Spanish opposition has made strong claims the Spanish government covered up the real death count by failing to count many deaths.
In the US the politicization of the pandemic was initiated by the Democrats and their allied left-wing media outlets such as the NY Times, Wash. Post and CNN.
April 21, 2020 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm in reply to: President Donald Trump, Oheiv Yisroel Par Excellence #1851615JosephParticipantPresident Trump successfully nominated Chasidic Boro Park resident Reb Moyshe (Mitchell) Silk as Assistant Treasury Secretary of the United States. His nomination was confirmed today by the United States Senate becoming the first Chareidi Jew in history in a U.S. Senate confirmed position.
JosephParticipantMilhouse: I don’t believe you to be correct regarding your points vis-a-vis dina d’malchusa taking preeminence and overriding how Halacha rules monetary disputes and situations are to be resolved. See Choshen Mishpat 26:1. And minhag hatagorim I believe applies to parties who participated in an agreed transaction; not to every monetary issue or dispute such as, for example, someone damaging property of someone else who he has no financial or business relationship with.
What you seem to be suggesting is that we can basically throw out Choshen Mishpat, lock stock and barrel, and simply always use the lawbooks of the local gentile state with never a need for what Choshen Mishpat rules on given scenarios.
I’m also not convinced you can extrapolate from a tzibbur to a corporation, even if they bear some similarities.
JosephParticipantMilhouse: You could make that argument for every democracy. Including, in fact, constitutional monarchies where the “King” is merely a figurehead.
You’d be left making the bracha for the dear leaders of North Korea and Saudi Arabia.
JosephParticipantMilhouse: Using that logic you’ll need to argue that Pres. Ronald Reagan was the only good president since Pres. William McKinely.
YY: What “situation” are you referring to in your comment?
JosephParticipantCoffee Addict: You’re describing “Level Term” policies. Those are set for somewhere between 5 and 30 years, depending on the policy. There’s also another product called “Annual Renewable Term” that you can keep for much longer. In New York you can keep an Annual Renewable Term policy from when you get it at whatever age until age 80. In most other states you can keep it until age 95.
JosephParticipantCharlie: Don’t forget the Americans who the Native Indian savages murdered in cold blood.
JosephParticipantTerm life insurance is very inexpensive to purchase by individuals even if they don’t receive it as part of a benefit package from their work. A half a million dollar policy only cost a couple hundred dollars a year or so.
JosephParticipantDo a beshow. While the venues are closed, homes are open.
JosephParticipantTLIK: Where did you divine this “contrast” that he was a baal ruach hakodesh whereas such ruach hakodesh was suddenly lost sometime thereafter? Did you decide at what point in time exactly this “loss” of ruach hakodesh, that you acknowledge still existed a mere 350 years ago, suddenly vanished? Or does such irrelevancies not further your boich svara so it therefore can be easily ignored.
Many Gedolim today have and continue to identify specific contemporary faults that triggered specific tragedies. As you are surely aware, even more postwar Gedolim told us why the holocaust occured. Though you add a disclaimer about not minimizing the gedolim of today, your very comments does so. And Rav Elyashev never in his life said that any of his contemporary gedolim were anything other than correct in their identifying whichever fault to whichever calamity.
JosephParticipantThe Tosfos Yom Tov informed Klal Yisroel that the tragedies of Tach V’Tat occured due to talking in shul. Other Gedolim explained the causes of the holocaust. The Gemora (which is also long after the period of neviim) explained the causes for the Churban.
It is abundantly clear that our Gedolim today and in the past are highly capable of telling us explicit causes or aveiros that triggered specific contemporary tragedies in Klal Yisroel and in the world.
JosephParticipantCTL: It doesn’t shtim that your local ambulance corps used the KN95 for the last three years. The FDA never approved the KN95 for use in the US until April 5th of this year, as a direct result of the pandemic and shortage of FDA certified N95s. Previously they were not approved for medical use in the US.
JosephParticipantIt is notable that it happened in the immediate time when Bnei Torah were being snookered into the unprecedented activity of voting in a Zionist election.
JosephParticipantFrom among Chareidim, other than children, yes.
JosephParticipantCS: Model KN95 is China-specific. It is China’s equivalent to the N95.
JosephParticipantOn a slightly side note, the N95 masks are largely ineffective on anyone with facial hair. Anything from even a morning stubble to a regular beard will allow air particles to bypass the N95 mask at the chin, potentially allowing germs to enter the mouth/nose.
JosephParticipantOther than Watergate, how was Nixon bad? He was excellent in foreign policy; China, Israel, et al. And domestically he ended the Vietnam mess that Kennedy and Johnson got us into. If not for Watergate he’d rank as one of the better presidents.
JosephParticipantOnly men.
JosephParticipantDemocrat rioters burning cities. Baltimore-style.
JosephParticipantSome idiots think they have a right to dispute Daas Torah. Don’t envy their acher meah v’esrim.
JosephParticipantThere used to be one, and possible still is (can’t vouch for it but think it’s still there) across the street from Rabbi Landau’s shul, on the corner of Ave. L & E. 8th.
JosephParticipantSo the sick ones didn’t have to quarantine a second time once done even if another member of the family later developed symptoms?
JosephParticipantSyag, if one kid completed a 14 day quarantine due to his own symptoms, he’s required to do another 14 day quarantine if another family member then gets symptoms?
JosephParticipantYY: China and Iran are both top in per capita but are blatantly lying through their teeth about the steep numbers of deaths they’ve both experienced. And other countries are simply ill equipped to even county. They’re not counting deaths that occurred in hospitals before a COVID test could be conducted. And they’re also not counting deaths outside hospitals, such as in nursing homes and in private homes, where many occur prior to hospitalization. Even EU countries like Italy and Spain are omitting those numbers of deaths. The US is counting those deaths. As such, we’re way below in 9th place per capita.
JosephParticipantMilhouse: The difference you describe between a corporation and a private person doing business, from an exclusively halachic perspective, doesn’t necessitate a corporation. An individual doing business as a sole proprietor can also halachicly effect the same full sale to a non-Jew of his sole proprietorship business, customer list, place of business and all.
As far as dina d’maclchisa are you implying that, say, a yerusha would be governed by New York State law rather than hilchos yerusha in Shulchan Aruch? Or if two Yidden have a financial dispute in Beis Din the Dayanim will pull out New York State law books and rule in accordance with secular law even though Halacha and Shulchan Aruch clearly describe the particular dispute these two Jews are having and clearly rules one way — which is the opposite of secular law? Or that if someone damages anothers property they amount due and even whether he’s liable for anything is determined by gentile laws rather than based on how Halacha says?
Your “tzibur of one” description doesn’t shtim. And, yes, I would certainly say that if a second person joins a tzibur, the tzibur property doesn’t remain belonging to the last person standing prior to the new member even if he was the only member for a period of time. Even while he was the sole member I don’t believe he could disburse of tzibur property for personal benefit.
JosephParticipantMilhouse: Your last description about it depending on the minds of the buyer/seller would mean there’s no halachic distinction between a private business and a privately held company, your original point in the OP.
Regarding your first answer (in your last post), are you positing that we halachicly disregard Choshen Mishpat in favor of dina d’malchusa?
Regarding your second answer, the tzibur comparison is obviously inapplicable to a corporate entity with sole ownership. As such you cannot extrapolate from it to corporations in halacha, in general.
April 17, 2020 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm in reply to: Does anybody have any information about Yeshivas Mir Yerushalayim 4 next Zman? #1850120JosephParticipantThe same as all the other Yeshivos.
JosephParticipantAlyosha, Many misdemeanors can and do carry imprisonment. And the convict, even of misdemeanors, cannot cry to the judge “Oy, I have children, so you can’t jail me.” Otherwise anyone with children would be free to commit any crimes that carry jail sentences (including misdemeanors) without being concerned about going to jail.
JosephParticipantMilhouse: I’m aware of the (secular) legal difference; I questioned your basis for making a halachic distinction. Where in Halacha do you see recognizing the existence of a corporation, especially one with sole ownership?
JosephParticipantHow are you making a halachic distinction between a “private business” and a “privately held company”?
JosephParticipantHe’d order all government agencies and personnel to refuse to interact or inform any information to Biden or his people anytime between election day and inauguration day, thereby leaving Biden blind to what the state of government or national security is upon assuming office.
JosephParticipant“Many professional historians are socialists, idiots, or both.”
Most,l or the vast majority are exactly that.
JosephParticipantU.S. Army General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a news briefing, when asked if there was any evidence the coronavirus may have been developed in a Chinese laboratory — “And I would just say, at this point, it’s inconclusive although the weight of evidence seems to indicate natural. But we don’t know for certain.”
JosephParticipantHaimy: Why, and which askonus, might it antagonize things more?
April 14, 2020 8:51 am at 8:51 am in reply to: The Future of שָׁלוֹם עֲלֵיכֶם Handshaking with Social Distancing #1849489JosephParticipantYY: That’s (opposite gender) a non-issue among Yidden giving a שָׁלוֹם עֲלֵיכֶם handshake.
JosephParticipantWhat/who is VFC?
JosephParticipantThere’s a significant problem that ALL threads not in the Decaffinated Coffee section are effectively unseen and ignored since the main page now only displays Decaffinated Coffee threads. This ought to be fixed by the website programmers who created this problem a few months ago when they broke it with their change.
April 13, 2020 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm in reply to: The Future of שָׁלוֹם עֲלֵיכֶם Handshaking with Social Distancing #1849303JosephParticipantForshayer: The minhag when greeting the Rishon L’Tziyon (as well as other Sefardic gedolim) is to kiss their right hand.
JosephParticipantMilhouse: Pulling a Lautenberg on a federal election conducted across 50 States is virtually impossible in a Presidential election since not all States would agree and as such it would legally split the Democrats electoral vote in the Electoral College.
JosephParticipantLuna: America is a much much bigger country. Look at the PER CAPITA rates to compare to other countries.
America is doing much much better comparatively.
And America’s hospitals, even in the epicenter of the US crisis in New York, NEVER ran out of hospital beds, ICU beds or ventilators despite the governor and mayor of New York yelling that they were days away from running out.
Thank you Mr. President!
April 13, 2020 1:59 pm at 1:59 pm in reply to: The Future of שָׁלוֹם עֲלֵיכֶם Handshaking with Social Distancing #1849251JosephParticipantPerhaps some will adapt the Japanese system of giving the person a bow.
April 13, 2020 11:46 am at 11:46 am in reply to: Liability of persons who infect others with coronavirus #1849206JosephParticipantReb Eliezer, I mean judgement from heaven of the person who infected others. The Gemorah talks about Chayav B’Dinei Shamayim.
Also we sometimes do know that certain activities result in punishment from heaven (i.e. kores) for doing certain given actions or, for example, when someone kills someone negligently or without any evidence, where Beis Din cannot act upon it.
April 13, 2020 11:38 am at 11:38 am in reply to: The Future of שָׁלוֹם עֲלֵיכֶם Handshaking with Social Distancing #1849168JosephParticipantSiM: Many Yidden, especially Sefardim and Chasidim, kiss the godol’s hand rather than shake it.
JosephParticipantWho (party/candidates) will benefit electorally on election day from the crisis compared to had there been no health crisis this year?
April 13, 2020 7:09 am at 7:09 am in reply to: Liability of persons who infect others with coronavirus #1849121JosephParticipantReb Eliezer, why don’t you think there’s any issue of dinei shamayim applicable in such cases?
I’m also unsure what point you’re making about the person dying.
April 12, 2020 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm in reply to: Liability of persons who infect others with coronavirus #1849030JosephParticipantReb Eliezer, garmi or grama?
And does that apply both to Dinei Adam and Dinei Shamayim?
April 12, 2020 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm in reply to: Liability of persons who infect others with coronavirus #1849002JosephParticipantOn what halachic basis can you assert that a person would be completely patur both B’Dinei Adam and B’Dinei Shamayim if he infected other people either a) before the world was aware there was a pandemic (so he took no precautions) or b) despite having taken the recommended precautions (which early in the pandemic proved to be insufficient)? Or during a general annual seasonal flu when there aren’t significant precautions recommended.
And how is liability B’Dinei Shamayim different regarding cases of illness versus cases r”l of fatality.
April 12, 2020 7:47 am at 7:47 am in reply to: Contingency Plans for Extended School Closings #1848703JosephParticipantThe Yeshivos and Beis Yaakovs are all already using telephone teleconferencing classes.
So there’s no issue here.
JosephParticipantIf they were outwardly friendly how do you know that they are “silently” judging you?
JosephParticipantRW: Why are you afraid of others knowing what you do?
Unless you’re doing illegal or inapp6 stuff.
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