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why assume anything?
Because Charlie wants an excuse to extend this idea he’s proposing to his Open “Orthodox”, to justify their non-talmidei chachomim instituting their new age “minhags”.
B1g B0y – You’re talking about left-handed people; I’m talking about left-footed people.
Gamanit – What if they’re in England, where they drive on the left side of the road (and the steering wheel is on the right side of the car)?
If you drive without a shoe your foot might slip off the gas pedal. (For lefties who drive with their left foot.)
LC: The point is if it were for Muslim women there wouldn’t be this outcry against it.
And kollelman proved the point. The NYT wrote an editorial against the women’s hours in Williamsburg and their news article was also slanted against it. Yet four months ago they were fawning over how beautiful Toronto is to Muslim women by offering them women hours at the public pool.
If the advertiser gets three people to purchase from the luxurious ad, the ad more than paid itself over already. So when you see an ad for that Caribbean Cruise with Kosher L’Pesach food, the sponsor needs only a tiny number of buyers for the ad to be worthwhile, while thousands of other readers might assume there is widespread luxurious wealth when in reality only a tiny number of people actually buy these luxurious advertised stuff (cruise, hotel, watch, etc.)
So this idea there is widespread luxurious consumption within the frum community is baloney. It’s all just a bunch of advertising for a tiny number of buyers.
Muslim women need to be accommodated with cultural sensitivity.
As long as it’s at least 104 we’re good.
aIY: What was the ruling of your rabbi for this?
Does anyone know anything about Nikolsburg Chassidus of Boro Park, led by Rebbe Mordechai Jungreis.
He’s a rebbe in Chaim Berlin.
I firmly believe that you are better off giving $105 dollars to tzedakah than $104
You’re disputing Rav Chaim Palagi zt’l?
“Mesorah does not suffice?”
No. We change Mesorah all the time
GAW, are you saying that you don’t believe in mesorah and feel mesorah can be thrown out at will?
Avram, she doesn’t need to light to know that it is Shabbos. And, more importantly, it is Shabbos for her whether she lights or not, and she’s still obligated in Shabbos. If she doesn’t have a halachic marriage, she isn’t an eishes ish or married, and she doesn’t have the obligations of an eishes ish.
Again, I’m not being a proponent of this idea, merely explaining it. A major problem with the idea is that if they’re not halachicly married they are sinning each time they’re together. [Though that sinning is of a lesser nature than the proponents of this are concerned may occur later if they are halachicly married.] Though, Rav Moshe (unlike Rav Henkin) holds non-Orthodox performed marriages are, indeed, not halachicly valid.
Avram: That comparison is off. The reasoning of the proponents of the idea I mentioned, as I understand it, is because in case of divorce of a non-religious couple they will likely not obtain a halachic get, thus causing much greater problems down the line. That, and/or because they are less likely to be faithful.
DY: I’ve heard some suggest that it is better for non-religious couples to not have a valid kiddushin. (I’m not suggesting this is a correct opinion.)
Besides, you would have to prove that such a Mesorah exists.
How do you prove a Mesorah – a Mesorah cannot be unwritten? Thousands of years of practice doesn’t constitute a Minhag?
In Israel, I’ve rarely had a woman extend her hand to me in a business situation.
aIY: In the rare circumstances you did have it extended, how did you react?
Am I not entitled to share an opinion, Goq?
Source: Anecdotal observation. Pew Research scientific study not yet conducted.
Popa is a regular.
Do you ski?
Mesorah does not suffice?
By putting them in zoos?
PETA and other animal rights wackos opposes the killing of mosquitoes as animal cruelty.
The Halachah is that today you’re allowed to live off Tzedakah to learn. See the Ramah and Shach in Hilchos Talmud Torah.
Rambam Iggeres Teiman.
Because non-frum Jews are often more anti-Semitic than gentiles.
The left is whom opened the floodgates in the 60s, Mammele. And certainly America was better off with a culture heavily more European/English than the increases in crime and non-English (who unlike earlier immigrants insist on receiving election ballots and everything else in their foreign languages) that came since the 60s immigration changes that altered America’s composition.
America was much better off more WASPy than the hill it’s fast been going down since the 60s, when there immigration quotas were gutted from preserving America’s heritage as a mostly British/European culture.
Having an in-ground pool in the house? (Calling Los Angeles.)
The access to the limited areas of the Kosel for 1,000+ years was far better than no access for the nearly 20 years following the Zionist independence war.
“So, in the scheme of things, it’s only money. It can’t buy you health or happiness or a place in Olam Habah.”
Sure it could buy you a place in Olam Habah. Say you gave $70,000 to tzedaka.
And does money really not bring happiness?
It would be neglectful to not point out that we had access to the Kosel for over a thousand years until 1948, when there Zionists went to war causing our loss of access to the Kosel for almost 20 years.
In ’67 they regained access to what they lost for us.
Because blond haired, blue eyes is the master race.
Glad to have paskened. You’ll know where to reach me the next time a shaila comes up. 🙂
A showy McMansion is at least as bad as any luxurious getaway or jewelry.
LC: That’s my impression. But if you agree that it isn’t less materialistic out-of-town than in-town (you seem to indicate equivalence), that would still dispute the premise in the OP’s article.
How are in-town Jews more materialistic than out-of-town Jews? It seems you can more readily find the McMansions in OOT communities than in in-town communities. Brooklyn and Lakewood has a lesser prevelance (%) of frum mansions than other Orthodox neighborhoods.
How is a safek mamzer “easy to resolve”?
Who thinks about CR topics in shul?!
The other side of the coin is the serious problem of non-Jews being raised under the false assumption that they’re Jewish. A serious problem because often kiruv organizations will attempt to make them frum, or these folks will seek Orthodoxy themselves, without realizing that they aren’t even Jewish.
ubiq: In 2013 (current at the time of the study), not 1970.
(Also note that the 1970 figures you’re looking at include the Orthodox, thus bringing down the overall intermarriage rate and masking the much higher rate among the Reform and Conservative.)
ZD: 50% of Spanish Jewry converted to Christianity leading up to the Inquisition. Thus, the children (and grandchildren, etc.) of the women converts to Christianity remain halachicly Jewish. Yet after all these hundreds of years we don’t know which Spaniards are halachicly Jewish descending, woman after woman, from the Jewish converts to Christianity.
Children of Jewish women married to Christian and other non-Jewish men, overwhelmingly raise their children under another religion or no religion and they don’t identify as Jews.
ubiq: Those figures includes the Orthodox and non-Orthodox conglomerated. I’m excluding the Orthodox from the figures. The Orthodox intermarriage rate is close to 0%.
source?
Pew Research, 2013. (Look at the intermarriage figures excluding the Orthodox.)
Bobov is great. They have a number of BTs in their ranks.
Are you in the NY Metropolitan Area?
Many people who are extremely valuing of animals are many times cruel to their fellow human beings.
Giving animals a name is a sick humanization of animals.
Let animals be animals and treated like animals. Let humans be humans and treated humanely.
blubluh: What was the end resolution of this case?
Did you follow my psak?
I love Chicago… that’s why I’m saying stay away! 😉
Suggestion:
Joseph
MVP of the CR
Keep dreaming 🙂
Stay away from Chicago!!
Seriously, you’ve been ranting against big cities for months, and now you’re ending up in Chicago?!