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miamilawyer, the Gemora, Rambam and Shulchan Aruch say that a wife shouldn’t leave the home too much. (Rambam actually quantifies it as once or twice a month.)
Even if she were sitting in the buggy and not on the horse. Can you imagine your bubbes mounting the horse and buggy, taking a seat on the buggy, and whipping the horse into action to ride over to the next town to visit her parents while the zeida was working?
I don’t think the OP had you in mind, miamilawyer.
DY, when travel was necessary, however frequent or infrequent it may have been, why was it always the zeida that drove it, and not the bubbe (when it wasn’t a third-party)?
And if the bubbe did need to travel when the zeida wasn’t available, why wouldn’t she mount the horse and ride off on her own?
Gamanit, I think it’s very safe to assume that of your many zeidas, a number of them drove a horse and buggy at least on occasion. While the bubbes did not.
writersoul, at least you’re clear in your opinion, similar to Sam2, that you think LWMO is not real MO and only RWMO fits that category.
That being expressed, allow me to interject that I think as a matter of demographic reality the LWMO outnumber the RWMO. A notable number of those who previously identified as RWMO now identify as Chareidi (whereas there hasn’t been nearly as much going from Chareidi to RWMO.)
Brisker is 100? correct.
All Yiddish dialects among frum communities are mutually intelligible.
Wouldn’t separate minyanim be racist?
adocs, your Zeidas drove horse and buggies. Your Bubbes, somehow, managed without driving a horse and buggy.
How did your bubbes manage in Warsaw, Vilna, Budapest, Vienna, Frankfurt, Lemberg, Munkatch, Berditchiv, etc.?
Women Kohanim?
The ’50s American Orthodoxy was not so religious in many regards; and their lackings do not define Judaism.
It costs an arm and a leg.
ws, you seem to be assuming that LWMO is less a legitimate part of MO than RWMO is.
ws, why do you assume that your version of MO is a majority rather than the type of MO that Sparkly if describing as perhaps being more prevelant?
jf02, if you’re describing yoshke and his followers during his lifetime as practicing Judaism, and Reform as practicing Judaism, while we may disagree on the semantics, we agree on putting both those religious practitioners in the same category.
“???? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ??? ?’ ???? ?’ – ????: “???? ?????? ?????? ??? ??? ????????? ????? ?????? ??????? ??? ?????? ???? ??? ??????”.
??????- “???????? ???? ????? ?????… ?????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ???…”
Chofetz Chaim Hilchos Rechilus 9:15
“???? ????? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ???????, ??? ??? ????? ??????? ?????.”
Yoshke is Jewish. And his movement initially, and during his entire lifetime, was an all-Jewish movement. Just like the Saduccees, Karaites and Reform.
jf02, the requisite halachic stipulations for such folks.
She could take public transportation.
Do you always qualify halachic opinions you share with a disclaimer “but other rabbis disagree”?
(i.e. “Don’t use the eruv in Flatbush. But other rabbis disagree.”)
I didn’t say l’chol hadeios.
The bochorim are learning Torah *full-time*. In the abscence of that, they too should soon wed. Torah keeps the idealism running strong. Marriage indeed is usually a sort of lock, to a large extent, on the ruchniyuskeit one achieved to that point. Once one starts swimming in the outside world, outside the daled amos of Torah, they are being pulled further away.
Rav Avigdor Miller:
“A Beis Yaakov girl should be wed soon after or before graduation. Every day after she leaves the Beis Yaakov marks another step away from idealism, for the street and the office and the secular school have an unfailing effect which increases from day to day.”
Women shouldn’t be driving.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/women-driving
miamilawyer: It is permissible to enter a mosque as it is not Avoda Zora. It is impermissible to enter a Reform/Conservative house of worship, due to heresy, or enter a church, due to Avoda Zora. That’s what Subtitle stated.
Their “conversions” aren’t safik. They are vadai pasul.
A large portion of the members of the Reform and Conservative religions are complete gentiles and not Jewish. This is a result of over a century of intermarriages, invalid conversions, children/grandchildren/etc. of intermarriages and invalid conversions, and half a century of paternal descent.
They are heretics and must be treated as such.
A heretical denomination cannot be described as practicing Judaism.
Joseph: And if it is heresy? Therefore what?
Therefore you cannot state that their adherents “practices Judaism”.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/condemnation-of-jerusalem-parade/page/2#post-616562
If you wife is in the car, yes. She should also be the one to offer it.
And what about those children who believe they can control their married parents?
No.
The local kosher supermarket.
jf02, Conservative and Reform, which is what you raised in your earlier comment, is heresy.
jf02, Subtitle’s telling you that it is delusionary to think one could practice a form of non-Orthodoxy while imagining that he “practices Judaism”.
takah: And if you knew in advance you could get equal service and price between a frum dealer and a non-frum/non-Jew, who were of equal convenience to you and equal in whatever other respects important, would you give the frum guy preference?
writersoul: Your being technical in your retort. While there are a handful (relative to the population distribution of Chareidim in Israel) of Chareidim living outside the Green Line, even that handful tends to live close to the Green Line in relatively safer areas than the RZ settlements further out. And those Chareidi towns are anticipated by all to remain within a post-peace agreement Israel.
lc: You didn’t hear? It’s now the Union of Agudas Yisroel Orthodoxy.
To attract men.
So you say. But you’re wrong. In fact there have been public reports of folks cured and subsequently married.
The Khazars were led by Jews.
Wasn’t their a Jewish King of Poland?
I know of people who were cured from this dreadful machla and went on to lead happy, successful, marriages and productive lives.
Old City has a material number of chareidim?