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It never got to the point where a public boycott was initiated since the owner was cooperative and made the necessary changes. So there was no boycott. It was all dealt with privately directly with the owner.
The owner knows. The case has been B’H resolved and there is no need for the public to be privy to the information.
That doesn’t preclude from taking necessary action when a case such as this occurs where a negative influence is publicly established. The action was taken under the auspices of some of the chashuve rabbonim and dayanim of the community.
Josh, the recognized beis din of the community is who determined to organize the boycott should the establishment not agree to the change.
B’H they agreed to the change.
Chareidim need less than non-Chareidi Jews since chareidim minimize expenses, including not demanding a private prep school quality secular education.
If the government kidnaps their children, you can be dang sure they aren’t going to place them “into heimish, vetted foster care”. They will bring them up like goyim.
If the establishment offends community sensibilities, the community is within its rights to organize a boycott.
You can forgo vacations and still define it as a living wage.
The expression shikur vi ah goy came about for good reason.
Yseribus, what I stated is 100% true. Both Satmar and Brisk completely reject and decline all state funding they’re legally entitled to. For their yeshivos and everything else.
Yseribus, why are your stating sheker and putting words in my mouth. I merely disproved your false assertion that there was no “any number of late gedolim opposed Touro.”
And Rav Shach specifically mentioned Touro; that wasn’t an extrapolation. And it is one thing for you to put words in my mouth; but to falsely accuse Rav Shach by insinuating that c’v “for political reason he opposed it” is quite something else. His opposition was principled based on Torah principles, as everything else he said and did. Not “for political reason.”
Ah bissel derech eretz; he is the godol hador, not a political hack. And his Torah based positions were always principles based, not political statements.
Where do the white trash fit in?
Yseribus: Speech from Rav Elya Svei:
It says further, in Targum Yonoson, that one should not be a false witness. I want to stop here. In public life here in Brooklyn, there is false testimony. We have merited, through blood and sweat and with the Almighty’s help, to establish large Yeshivos for the boys and Bais Yaakovs for the girls. And these schools produced students of whom all can be proud. But then someone comes and says that they are still incomplete. When the boys go out of the Yeshiva, they are still not finished — they still need more studies: they still have to go to “Touro College” to be well-rounded. That is the biggest false testimony against the Torah. The boys do not need such “completeness”.
One is not allowed to be friends with them! One is not allowed to be partners with them! What will be with our children? From where will our great Torah leaders come? From Touro College they will not come! And mothers of Gedolei Torah will also not come from Touro College, because the Gemorrah says that to merit children who will become Gedolei Yisroel, one has to have modesty. And modesty cannot be acquired in Touro College!
Yserbius: Neither Satmar nor Brisk supports Palestinian rule.
And both Satmar and Brisk refuses to accept any State funding, even what they’re legally entitled too. They are self sustaining.
So why were the owners so worried that they agreed to the requested change to remove the TumahVisions?
Until such time as the owner asks the person to leave, the person has the right to enter the public restaurant based on the owner’s public invitation to enter. Furthermore, the owner could be advised of the pending economic boycott by phone call, letter or in shul without needing to enter the restaurant.
Walking into a public restaurant isn’t trespassing. Advising the owner that the community will organize an economic boycott of the food establishment isn’t harassment. It is constitutionally protected free speech and right to choose who you do not patronize.
Yirei Shamayim are correct to boycott an establishment that offers treif influences such as television.
This is a shaila for Rav Chaim himself. This isn’t a poshute shaila you should be asking stam any Rov.
Don’t buy Gerber.
DY: Perhaps the Chazon Ish. I don’t recall off hand specifically, but do recall hearing the shitta.
Avram: I was the first poster in this thread to advocate buying life insurance.
In this case I was arguing the comparison. Though, there is a legitimate shitta against purchasing life insurance, even if it is a minority opinion. I’d defend the right to that shitta even if I didn’t hold by it.
My dependents need for me to have life insurance in order for them to live.
Is that “need” you identified predicated on the dependents still being your dependents at the time the insurance claim would become payable? Is that need a certainty, as is the need for an income to live in the here and now, that you compared the two?
Do you also believe it’s a chisaron in bitachon to leave a tzavaah?
That isn’t comparable. Everyone dies, hence a tzavaah. But most people die at an old enough age where they don’t need hundreds of thousands of dollars upon death.
Why is buying life insurance any more a lack in bitachon than working?
You need to work in order to live; you don’t necessarily need life insurance in order to live.
Buy term and invest the difference.
YY, write-ins for presidential races aren’t so simple as they are for other races. You are not voting for president, despite the popular misconception that people vote for president. You are voting for members of the electoral college. And the members elected to the electoral college will vote in December who should become president.
So a write-in vote would only be for membership in the states delegation for the electoral college. If you write in McMullin in most states you aren’t really voting for him since he doesn’t have a recognized slate of candidates for the electoral college in most states.
You believe in dating multiple folks simultaneously?
Will this thread be turned into a movie after the finale?
Suggested title: Duel to the Death: ubiquitin and Health
Category: Horror
McMullin isn’t on the ballot nationally. He’s only listed on the ballot in 11 states. (A few more states permit him to be written in.)
DY: I still think Trump is the lesser of the two evils and he would be less bad than Clinton. But, yes, I think it is very unlikely he’ll win. It’s a question of whether he’ll lose a close election or lose in a landslide. My prediction is he’ll lose the popular vote in a somewhat close percentage but lose the electoral college in a landslide.
None good.
Sorry, Wolf, I was teasing you a little bit. Please forgive me.
Wow! Not only a lamed vover, but a humongous anav too! This is one tzaddik’s schar I truly envy!!
TLIK, you indicated above that this occurred to you in a BP mosod. Did I understand that correctly?
Mammele, they (the people, not just the leadership) will not accept your terms and will not agree to change. Moving to Guatamala more than proved that.
gavra, don’t be a yutz. I said that anyone wanting to send their children to a heimish Yeshiva or BY is frum, in the context of the above conversation of who doesn’t go to public school. I did not say anyone who doesn’t send to a heimish Yeshiva or BY isn’t frum.
TLIK, if a child doesn’t have the admission card they aren’t sent home.
Only if you speed up to get to your destination (and hence off the road) very quickly.
Mammele, how do you know any of what you allege is true? Jblogosphere?
By frum I mean any type of family that desires to send their children to a heimish Yeshiva or Beis Yaakov.
And how do you know they’re being abused? Because that’s what Channel 7 reported and the jblogosphere repeated?