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  • Joseph
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    Rav Bender is no Zionist, unlike you and Feif.

    Rav Shapiro is not friends with Israeli Jew Gilad Atzmon. Oh my, the same radio host interviewed both the Israeli Mr. Atzmon and Rav Shapiro in NY and the Jewish Mr. Atzmon said he liked what the Rav was saying? That isn’t what makes one friends.

    Joseph
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    Moilech: Which yeshivos and which public schools is that data from?

    in reply to: I am a Catholic #1310969
    Joseph
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    He only did certain ones, not all. And he never put in cherem those born after he made it. So it certainly never applied to anyone after his time. Furthermore, his talmid later removed it from those he did apply it to.

    See Shu”t Nishmas Chaim #7.

    Joseph
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    Special educational services from the Board of Ed are most frequently provided in mainstream yeshivos. Many yeshivos have resource rooms and these children attend mainstream classes.

    Other parents might choose to send their child to a special yeshiva/school geared for his issues. But even in those cases it is in the vast majority of the time done at the decision of the parents who decided their child is best served there. It is very rare that the child was in a Yeshiva and the school forced them out against their wishes.

    In making the aforementioned comparison suggested in this thread, I wasn’t suggesting comparing mainstream yeshiva children to special ed public school children. Both yeshivos and pubic schools have special ed children. The comparison can be made apples to apples.

    In any event, I think it is fair to say that Yeshiva kids do quite well in secular studies and stand up respectable and better to public school kids in the same city/town as the Yeshiva kids.

    in reply to: I am a Catholic #1310913
    Joseph
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    And the Reform and Conservatives broke off from Judaism and started their own religions. They’re to us like the Mormons are to Catholicism.

    Joseph
    Participant

    I don’t know if you’re referring to MO schools, but in mainstream yeshivish yeshivos it is very very rare for students to be not allowed back. 1 in 1,000 perhaps. And even then it is for a very serious issue that the school felt the student is best served by a different school that is more geared for his issue.

    Joseph
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    Read again, Syag. I’ve provided dozens of proofs over various comments and theads demonstrating that the left-wing critics hate him and the Halacha/Hashkafa website because he’s unabashedly Chareidi and promotes Daas Torah as espoused by our Gedolim shlita today and our Gedolei Yisroel zt’l of yesteryear. But what really galls many of these MO blogging critics of his, is his clear opposition to Zionism. That’s why Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein’s review is especially powerful and poignant, that I’ve pointed it out more frequently perhaps than the many other points I’ve enumerated and referenced positively supporting him. But you are certainly incorrect in asserting that there aren’t so many other, even greater, points in Rav Shapiro’s lifetime of Hatzalas Nefoshos and other holy work on behalf of Klal Yisroel saving so many young Jewish lives both in ruchniyos and in gashmiyus.

    And it certainly isn’t only me. Just look, as a quick example, at Imanonov’s comment right above in this thread.

    in reply to: Correlation between Expensive things and Greater Value #1310861
    Joseph
    Participant

    When in business correspondence you address an unknown party as “Dear Sir”, or a known party as “Dear Mr. Buffett”, are you implying the potential business relationship is also very personal and precious?

    in reply to: Overturn Lawrence v. Texas #1310856
    Joseph
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    “There also are provisions for one yid to summarily execute another yid without going through a judicial process for certain violations of torah law.”

    Are you referring to anything other than a rodef? Because secular law also permits extrajudicial killing when done in self-defense.

    in reply to: Yeshiva High School Graduates versus Public High School Graduates #1310817
    Joseph
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    Yeshivas rarely kick out students. And in the very rare instances it occurs, it is never because the student wasn’t doing well in secular studies.

    Joseph
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    The Torah is judgemental. Not all hashkafas are equal or acceptable. You may not pick and choose. Torah Judaism implores us all to have a Rov. Having a “Virtual Rav” is, at best, like having a Virtual Spouse. We need to adhere to our Rabbonim’s Torah hashkafa, based on our Torah given to us by Hashem at Har Sinai over 3,000 years ago, and not “decide for themselves how they want to live a torah-based life in the 21st century.”

    in reply to: Sefardim own Ashkenazim #1310777
    Joseph
    Participant

    M29, DY point is correct once you take into consideration the reason Avi chose to be deliberately (and obviously) “wrong” in his comment.

    Joseph
    Participant

    The mere fact that Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein, who does not shy away on his cross currents from heavily criticizing Chareidim and Chareidi positions — and he’s a Zionist himself, in a feature article in OU’s magazine effusively praised to the hilts both frumteens and Rav Shapiro shlita as literally saving the lives and neshomas of so many troubled young Jewish boys and girls through his work on frumteens (and through his shul where he’s Rov), speaks huge volumes against anyone who would criticize Rav Shapiro.

    Joseph
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    Syag, one thing anyone who knows Rav Shapiro shlita’s writings, responses and talks can absolutely verify for you, he is the last person in the world to tell people what they want to hear. He famously will give the full Torah position in whatever issue is being discussed, even if that might make Torah Judaism seem very strict to someone secular or modern orthodox. Whether he’ll tell teens and tweens that have a boyfriend/girlfriend the absolute prohibition of having even a “platonic” friend of the opposite gender or someone enamoured with the State of Israel the Torah violations of Zionism, he certainly will not hide the Torah position to anyone who might not like what they hear.

    Joseph
    Participant

    LOL. It was actually exactly folks like DaMoshe and his very good friend and neighbor Feif Un — who in fact ran a hugely negative blog that literally every single post attacked Chareidim and strict Torah adherence. Indeed the name of the blog itself (which after being up for years suddenly disappeared within an hour after on this forum I identified its owner as Feif) was named “OrthoWatch”, as if we Orthodox are bad people needing to be exposed.

    It was exactly these type of folks that hated the Rov shlita, who is the Mara D’asra of a Litvish Kehila in New York and has absolutely no affiliation with Neteurei Karta. And if you search his comments on his site regarding NK you’ll see he was not supportive of them. But since the Rov frequently critiqued Zionism, bitter Zionists having no real basis to attack him invented stuff just as you saw DM falsely claim his affiliation with NK.

    Joseph
    Participant

    WB, Shopping613.

    Rav Yaakov Shapiro shlita was and is Chareidi. I think he didn’t post his name because even though he was (I think) the main mod, he wasn’t the only mod who posted and answered shailos and haskafa questions. He also had haskamas from other rabbonim but I don’t remember who they were.

    Regarding why the bloggers bashed him, well, that’s what bloggers do. They were basically a set of Chareidi haters who hated anything Chareidi and anything that strictly followed the Torah without regard to modern 21st century Western norms.

    The truth is he didn’t have enough time to be responsive full-time to the large number of posts to the site, which is which there was often delays in posting and responding, and sometimes not everything would get addressed so other volunteers would try to kick in when they could. The site started in the late ’90s and was still going strong for over ten years. Eventually it got replaced by the newer site, which was slightly more active when new but doesn’t seem to currently have enough volunteers with time to be very active.

    You should know that Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein, a Modern Orthodox rabbi, wrote a multi-page cover story in the Orthodox Union’s flagship publication Jewish Action effusively praising Rabbi Shapiro and the work he conducted on the website for, as he described it, literally saving the spiritual and physical lives of dozens and dozens of Jewish teenagers at-risk. Through the site all kinds of troubled teens got in the touch with the rabbi and he would help them and put them in touch with people and communities that could guide them to a proper Jewish life.

    in reply to: Overturn Lawrence v. Texas #1310595
    Joseph
    Participant

    akuperma, didn’t King Henry specifically break away from the Catholic Church and form the Church of England in the early 16th century for the express purpose of introducing divorce? Thus England had divorce close to a century before the formation of the first British colony in America in 1607.

    In any event, permitting divorce is in no way comparable to permitting sodomy.

    Joseph
    Participant

    akuperma, the comparative results can put to rest the lie that yeshiva students, as a result of an intensive religious curriculum that focuses less on secular studies, results in them lacking in knowledge and abilities in the core secular subjects of math, English, etc.

    in reply to: Yeshiva High School Graduates versus Public High School Graduates #1310579
    Joseph
    Participant

    I poked around the NYS Board of Ed Regents data on their website. I didn’t fully explore it, but there does seem to be options to view school-by-school Regents results.

    in reply to: I am a Catholic #1310451
    Joseph
    Participant

    The Kosel isn’t public property.

    Joseph
    Participant

    I’m referring to mainstream yeshivos that teach secular studies and administer the Regents exams. My strong impression is that yeshiva students, on average, do better on the Regents than public school students in the same city or town as the yeshiva students being compared to.

    Biblical Hebrew is a language. Virtually all the Yeshiva students understand to one degree or another both Hebrew and English. And a large plurality are trilingual in understanding Yiddish as well.

    Advanced Talmudical studies is akin to learning law. It greatly enhances the students reasoning abilities, logic and many other academic benefits. And they start learning Mishna and/or Gemorah at a very young age and continue doing so for the next decade.

    Joseph
    Participant

    I’m fine with that. Compare all who attended. FTR, the public school dropout rate is significantly higher than the Yeshiva dropout rate.

    Joseph
    Participant

    The public schools spend more per kid than yeshiva tuition costs in the non-MO world.

    Joseph
    Participant

    The Regents are generally given to all high school students, Yeshiva or pubic, in the schools that administer it.

    It is my impression from speaking to people in both Yeshiva and public education that Yeshiva high school graduates are notably on a higher level than public high school graduates in their same city/borough/district in Math and English. And with social studies and science I’ve heard anything from Yeshiva high school graduates are on par with public school graduates abilities to they’re ahead in knowledge.

    And, of course, this entire discussion doesn’t even address the fact that Yeshiva students, in addition to their secular studies also take many advanced courses — literally starting as little children in the very low grades — in Hebrew language, Aramaic (at least entry level), Biblical law, Advanced Talmidical law, Jewish history, Jewish commentaries, etcetera. And virtually all are bilingual with very many trilingual.

    Joseph
    Participant

    YY, do you think by 18 years old (if they even complete high school, given the NYC pubic school dropout rate) that the average pubic school kid in the Bronx or Queens knows math and English better than the average NYC Yeshiva student at 18?

    in reply to: 4th of you know what! #1309900
    Joseph
    Participant

    Q:
    Should we celebrate July 4th?

    A:
    Well, that depends on what you mean by celebrate. Should you stop your learning to make a barbecue? I don’t think that you should celebrate that way. No; there’s no reason for that. But we hang out the American flag from this Shul on July 4th. Walk down Ocean Parkway; no flags. But here, we hang out the flag.

    Today, when so many meshuga’im are trying to desecrate the American flag, and when the wicked courts and the wicked Supreme Court, have sanctioned the desecration of the flag by ruling that burning the flag is not a crime anymore; so we have to show that we appreciate Hashem’s gift to us. America is a great gift, and I say that every Jew today should hang out a flag on the 4th of July. Even if it’s just להכעיס, just to show the liberals, to show the רשעים, that we do appreciate America.

    The foolish liberals are always trying to tell us that everywhere else is better; Only here in America it’s no good. In Kent, Ohio, the National Guard shot down four students some years back when they were protesting. What a terrible fuss the liberals made here in America. But in Beijing, in China, when the Communists shot dead two hundred students, they didn’t say a word about it. What’s done by Communists is perfectly alright. In America, these liberal bums were ruining the campuses. They were bums and they deserved to be shot; no question about it! I sent a letter to the government congratulating them.

    You have to know that the liberals and the leftists are ruining America. They are wicked people and wickedness has no calculations. They do things only because of wickedness, and therefore we should do the opposite. They want to destroy the moral fabric of America and the least we can do is show that we appreciate the great gift of America. I say that we should hang out the flag; no question about it.
    (Rav Avigdor Miller)

    in reply to: The Kiddush Hashem of Lakewood #1309829
    Joseph
    Participant

    That’s because in Newark the type of families that are born there are out of wedlock. If that’s your cup of tea, housing is quite cheap there. You could even squat in abandoned buildings.

    Baruch Hashem in Lakewood the Torah community has virtually a zero out of wedlock issue. So of course there’s more households with married couples in Lakewood receiving food aid than in Newark. And every Yid who is legally eligible for state aid should take full 100% advantage and apply and accept all such aid. Yidden pay above average in taxes; and every Yid who qualifies for state aid should accept it.

    The entire America, men, women and children, Jew and gentile alike, live on the zchusim emanating from Lakewood.

    Joseph
    Participant

    Nu, so lobby Congress.

    in reply to: Bye bye bananas! #1309826
    Joseph
    Participant

    That’s wonderful, lightbrite. Thanks for sharing.

    There’s a poster on these boards, jf02, who posts for a few years then disappears for a few years and then comes back, who never drank coffee. I advised her here about seven years ago, when she was in her low 20s and still never had a sip, to try a cup. After a several years hiatus she returned here and confirmed she’s a coffee drinker.

    Joseph
    Participant

    Sure it can change. Lobby your state legislature to change the law.

    in reply to: The Chillul HaShem in Lakewood #1309797
    Joseph
    Participant

    Do you also ask patients for their marriage license when you sign people in at your health clinic?

    Government benefits are the same whether the mother is married or not. Benefit calculations depends only on household size. Whether the mother is married or unmarried living with her boyfriend or unmarried living with her best friend from school, the benefit amount is the same. Marriage license or not makes no difference and there’s no benefit to not having one.

    in reply to: The Kiddush Hashem of Lakewood #1309791
    Joseph
    Participant

    I meant BMG yungerleit and bochorim combined, though I inadvertently omitted the latter. And he may be correct that it’s closer to 7,000 than almost 8,000, but there was no need to fly off the handle for that error.

    in reply to: The Kiddush Hashem of Lakewood #1309775
    Joseph
    Participant

    See my second post on this thread. I included our Tinokos Shel Beis Rabban. Furthermore, as I said in my third post above, there are many more kollelim in Lakewood besides BMG.

    in reply to: The Kiddush Hashem of Lakewood #1309752
    Joseph
    Participant

    Additionally, 100,000 was several years ago. In 2017, with Lakewood being the fastest growing town in the entire state and one of the fastest in the entire United States, it’s more like 115,000, of which 2/3 are now frum — meaning about 75-80,000. Furthermore, the massive amounts of Yeshiva students from New York, around the country and from around the world are not counted by the census, as they’re counted where their families live, not where they’re students. So that is well over 10,000 more uncounted adult students in Lakewood.

    Beis Medrash Govah alone has close to 8,000 Kollel yungerleit. And there are many more kollelim in Lakewood besides BMG. And there are 30,000 yiddishe kinder officially bused by Lakewood to yeshivos every day, in addition to another number of Lakewood Yeshiva children who don’t use district transportation.

    Moreover, the frum community has spread to outside of Lakewood, to neighboring towns such as Brick, Jackson, Toms River, Howell, etc. And those aren’t counted by the census or by the board of ed as part of the Lakewood population, so those are many more to the above numbers.

    in reply to: The Kiddush Hashem of Lakewood #1309749
    Joseph
    Participant

    Where did I mention only Kollel? The Torah of our tinokos shel beis rabban may be the greatest Torah of all.

    in reply to: The Chillul HaShem in Lakewood #1309025
    Joseph
    Participant

    The NJ prosecutor told the media b’feirush why he went after the Yidden. 1) He wanted to make an example out of Yidden since the local goyim were yelling for years that “The Jews” unfairly get too much welfare. (Of course that’s a lie. For example, the black and Hispanic communities collect far more welfare than the Jewish community.) 2) So in response he went digging specifically into the files of Jewish welfare recepients. 3) He’s making quite a number of blatant assumptions regarding businesses owned by family members of the charged in claiming that they’re really owned by those being charged. 4) He claims he warned the community in 2015 against welfare fraud and is thus saying it’s coming to them since he warned them in advance. Yet all the charges are for activity between 2009 and 2014, all before his warning that he’s tying into these cases. 5) Notice that all 14 charged are Orthodox Jews. Is he seriously claiming there’s no welfare fraud to be found among non-Jews? Of course not; they’re simply specifically targeting Jews. 6) Did you notice that the prosecutor illegally tipped off the media before the arrests to go to the specific personal home addresses to take pictures of the arrests? Is he a public servant/prosecutor seeking justice or is he a publicity seeker seeking the limelight in embarrassing people who are legally considered innocent prior to any conviction?

    in reply to: Global Cooling #1309012
    Joseph
    Participant

    It’s global in the same sense as the false narrative peddled by the so-called man-made global warming promoters.

    in reply to: The Chillul HaShem in Lakewood #1308985
    Joseph
    Participant

    RebYidd23, well said. Someone can be of poor income and 100% legally qualify for SNAP, WIC, Section 8, etcetera, while family members provide them nice decent clothing and pay for them to travel to Eretz Yisroel for a simcha or whatever.

    This false idea that to qualify for government assistance you need to wear rags, or even that you cannot wear very nice clothing, or that family members cannot pay for your travel, is just that… flat out false and with no legal basis.

    I’m also wondering how Eliezer8687 is valuing women’s sheitels every time he signs in a patient to the healthcare provider he’s a secretary at. Is he a sheitel appraiser too? Does he asks his customers where they’ll be for yom tov and summers everytime a Medicaid patient comes to his sign-in desk?

    The bottom line is that these charges are שקר וכזב. Completely and utterly false. They are innocent people.

    in reply to: The Chillul HaShem in Lakewood #1308979
    Joseph
    Participant

    cherrybim, they spread it themselves by regularly and very publicly travelling on Shabbos in cars and airplanes. And publicly attending church services for avoda zora. And eating treif in very public settings.

    in reply to: Nonprofit grocery stores #1308946
    Joseph
    Participant

    CTL, there are still exactly such food co-ops in NYC.

    in reply to: The Chillul HaShem in Lakewood #1308749
    Joseph
    Participant

    APY, it is neither halachicly acceptable to 1) believe this happened in the first place nor 2) to have a discussion off the backs of your innocent brethren who were falsely accused for you to base your “discussion” on.

    If someone is falsely accused what are you going to do to prevent others in the future from being falsely accused?

    in reply to: The Chillul HaShem in Lakewood #1308662
    Joseph
    Participant

    A real shomrei Torah V mitzvoh wouldnt be stealing

    Of course not. And 1) that has nothing to do with the comment you quoted. 2) Nor does it have anything to do with those families who were recently falsely accused.

    in reply to: The Chillul HaShem in Lakewood #1308592
    Joseph
    Participant

    LC: The Halachas of loshon hara and dan lechaf zechus only apply a) to Yidden and b) even among Yidden they only apply to a Shomer Shabbos.

    in reply to: Overturn Lawrence v. Texas #1308586
    Joseph
    Participant

    Wolf, that’s like saying to keep in mind that if killing is illegal that when you have a situation where an killing someone in self-defense is necessary, you may not be allowed to.

    The point of overturning it isn’t to make it illegal in all circumstances. The vast majority of supporters of overturning that SCOTUS decision do not support making abortion illegal 100% of the time. The vast majority of pro-lifers support keeping abortion legal when the mother’s life is at stake. But making it illegal when the parent simply wants to abort for financial reasons. Or desires abortion for a fetus of the wrong gender preference or similar reasons.

    And once Roe v. Wade is gone state laws will allow specific exceptions to the laws outlawing abortion. Just as they had prior to the Roe v. Wade travesty of a decision.

    in reply to: Mazal Tov Charlie Hall? #1308561
    Joseph
    Participant

    He last posted 10 months ago:

    https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/users/charliehall/replies

    He has had similar lengths of silence in the past where he posted after a long such a long pause.

    in reply to: The Chillul HaShem in Lakewood #1308560
    Joseph
    Participant

    Okay, you don’t like the Halachas of loshon hara and dan lechaf zechus. Got it.

    Besides, you “don’t think” they would apply even if you did like them. Got that too. We’ll pasken Halachas how you “think”, and condemn anyone you “think” we should.

    Because, after all, the FBI never arrests innocent people after an investigation. Why even the need for a trial? If the FBI has an investigation and makes an arrest, guilty! Lock ’em up and throw away the key! Court is a waste of time.

    I mean, all those stories you hear of innocent people who were falsely convicted and years or decades later, after they spent years or decades in jail, and then were retroactively exonerated? Those are all bubbe maaisas! So what there’s another such innocent wrongly convicted story breaking almost every day. So what that for every falsely convicted that comes to light there’s probably another ten that are still rotting in prison despite being falsely convicted and not exonerated.

    That these families weren’t even tried yet? Guilty. Throw away the key.

    in reply to: Toras Avigdor #1308569
    Joseph
    Participant

    Q:
    I learned in the גמרא about some of the חכמים who had bad wives that were very troublesome and made their lives difficult. What lesson can I take from that גמרא?

    A:
    How is it that some אמוראים had bad wives who made their lives miserable? You should know, that none of them had bad wives. They all appreciated their wives. And if their wives made them miserable, they were very happy about that. You have to know that these wives were all honored by them. A תלמיד חכם surely fulfilled the מצוה of הוי אוהב את אשתו כגופו והוי מכבדו יותר מגופו. He would always be careful to honor his wife more than he honored himself. When a wife criticizes a husband, you should know that she is doing a very great thing. Nobody will criticize this great man. Who’s going to tell him the truth outside the house. And after a while he begins to think, “Maybe I really am great.” So he comes home and right away his wife deflates him. She puts a pin in his balloon and it bursts. That’s a tremendous achievement. It’s a שלימות, a perfection. It’s a שלימות to be put down to size once in a while.

    So nobody had any bad wives. It never happened by the חכמים that they would just give a get to their wives because of that. The חכמים were pleased with their wives.

    And therefore, each great man understood that Hashem had suited his wife to his own character. They understood that they were made for each other. They were made to order. And this was done for the purpose that he should grow perfectly in שלימות. In order that he should grow in self control, in order that he should grow in good מידות, Hashem gave him a wife who is a נסיון for him. So spends his life practicing self-control, and he becomes better and better. And when he comes to גן עדן, he and his wife will be together in גן עדן.

    A wise man understood that his wife was important. His wife cooked for him. She gave him children. She raised the children and fulfilled her duties in the house. Together they brought up a family. There’s no question that every wife did her duty in the Jewish home. Especially in the homes of תלמידי חכמים. And therefore, there’s no such thing as bad wives among the wives of the תנאים and אמוראים.

    Even though, sometimes the wives would criticize them, or they were not obedient in some details, nevertheless in general they served a most important purpose and they were appreciated.
    TAPE # E-199

    in reply to: Toras Avigdor #1308307
    Joseph
    Participant

    Q:
    How can one get close to a גדול בתורה, someone who is great in Torah and a real tzadik, in order to be able to learn from him and grow?

    A:
    The question is how can we get close to the Gedolim, the real tzadikim. But before you answer that question, you have to ask, “Who are the Gedolim?” That’s number one. I’m not saying they’re not Gedolim. ברוך ה׳ we have Gedolim. Absolutely. I know Gedolim. I won’t tell you who they are though. Because the other ones will be jealous and they’ll get upset at me – why didn’t I tell you their names also.

    We have many Gedolim and tzadikim today too. But you have to find them. And then, when you discover a Gadol and a tzadik, make it your business to live near him. Your wife will say that you can’t afford the rent. We can’t move. I want to live near my mother. Whatever it is, you’ll find difficulties.

    But if you’re able to live near a true עבד ה׳, someone who is really serving Hashem, then when he walks in the street, ask him, “Can I walk along with you?” Ask him. Maybe he’ll let you. You know, that you’ll be a very lucky man to find a Gadol like that.

    You know that there was once a boy – I think I told you this story once already. There was a boy who saw a Gadol walking outside the town frequently. So the boy followed him. And because he followed him, he became a Gadol too. It was Rav Yosef Zundel Salanter. He used to walk outside the town by himself. He was talking to himself. He was walking and talking to himself. And this little boy, Yisroel, saw him and he followed him. He saw that he was talking. Now, Rav Yosef Zundel was a decent​ man, a sane man. But he’s busy talking. So Yisroel went closer to him. He used to follow him. And one time, the old man turned around and said, “Yisroel, זאלסט ווערען א ירא שמים?” “Yisroel, you want to be someone who fears Hashem? Then learn Mussar.” Rav Yisroel Salanter said that it entered his heart like an arrow. When his Rebbi said that – “Yisroel, you want to be a ירא שמים? Learn Mussar,” it went into him like an arrow, and he became a talmid of Rav Yosef Zundel.

    Rav Yisroel Salanter said that Rav Yosef Zundel was a סולם מוצב ארצה וראשו מגיע השמימה. He was a ladder planted on the ground, with its head reaching the sky. He looked like a plain man walking around and talking – on the ground. He was a ladder on the ground, but his head went up to the sky. He was a very great man.

    If you can find a man like that, make sure to follow him. Make it your business to go after him. How?! You have to use all your cunning in order to be close to him.
    TAPE # E-226

    in reply to: Overturn Lawrence v. Texas #1308184
    Joseph
    Participant

    YY, perhaps adulterers should be the next “minority” to have their “rights” widened, you think?

    in reply to: Toras Avigdor #1308137
    Joseph
    Participant

    Q:
    In davening we ask Hashem, ואל תביאינו לא לידי נסיון – Don’t bring us into a situation of being tested. Why do we ask Hashem to help us avoid all נסיונות, all forms of spiritual tests, if the whole reason we are in this world is to face our tests, pass them and become great thereby?

    A:
    We ask Hashem, אל תביאינו לא לידי נסיון. Why? And the answer is that among the tests that Hashem sends upon us is the success of avoiding the test. If we successfully avoid a test, let’s say, you are בורח מן העבירה – you run away from the possibility of a sin, then you have successfully passed the test. Any form of keeping away from the נסיון is the most successful way of dealing with the נסיון.

    Anybody who comes close to a נסיון willingly is already blameworthy. And even though he succeeds in overcoming the temptation, he is blamed. Why did you bring yourself close to the sin?! He is blamed for that. You should be afraid of an עבירה. You should run away from the possibility of sin. There’s no need to look for tests. You’re facing them all day long. All day! And you’re not even aware of most of them. So whatever you can do to avoid them is already a success.

    And therefore, we have many תקנות in the עם ישראל, many Rabbinic restrictions, that are intended for the sole purpose of protecting us from נסיונות.

    You should never look for נסיונות. Never look for tests! That itself is a successful reaction to the problems that are facing us. הוי בורח מן העבירה. Avoid the problems that you can avoid. That itself is a great success.
    TAPE # E-195

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