toi you are very right the taruves at the shmorgas tabels and the salad bar i hated it. i will never go again and expose my kids to such a untznies environment where woman just push themselves in between the men, and at your yom tov tish sitting between other people with no michtzos. where is the mah toive ohelich yakkov that your doors shouldnt be facing someone elses door. i was so angry when i found out that there is no privacy.i still regret that years vehegadtu lbinchu which was gashmus only