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Huju
That’s very brave of you. Thank you for speaking out.What’s the proper method to pinch myself, to find out if I’m real?
Lilmod Ulelamaid
I don’t think we’re arguing. You’re saying that he did tesusvah before he died. That’s Grand. Then he’s obviously not controversial. The question is if someone lives non religiously, intentionally, and does some humanitarian work, is he considered righteous. Answer is no.Ps,
I read that book a while ago, right when it came out. When she died I actually went to be Menachem Avel her family in the West Side. I must have missed her interactions with Korczak.There’s no question that if it was done intentionally NOT because God told him so, rather in spite of it, then it’s definitely not a mitzvah.
What you’re saying is that if a Jewish person does something and isn’t aware that it’s a Mitzvah, he receives benefit for it. That is correct. But that’s not the case here.
By all accounts, people who intentionally denying God’s existence, are considered wicked. Wicked people do some good things. It’s not a contradiction.As yungerman123 notes, the point is moot due to his current galactic residence.
The question is, besides for his dying, how does he rate?
I think based on his experience and a quick reading of his Wikipedia page, it’s obvious that he was against religion and did not believe in God.
Now only that, but he actively tried preventing ydshivaz from operating and indoctrinating children to be religious.
Being a human and acting humanistic because you feel that the right thing to do, and specifically not because God told you to do so is not a Mitzvah. It is the opposite of that.
So no, he wouldn’t be considered righteous in Jewish law.Syag
Did we both just watch the same video? Are you not sure of her intentions?
She’s a terrible person.Jewish feminist, is confusing pidyen hben with becohr
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Joseph
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Syag
Popa
Health?BenK
If we don’t like what they say, the obvious only option we have is to Simply round them up and put them into concentration camps and take away their methods of communicating. This way will be so much safer.
No more concernsPapa
“If you’re asking if you should call the police, then you should.”
Please explain.
I also like to hear your opinion of calling after his ruv said not toSorry, you don’t get to play victim here. You’re bringing up stories that don’t happen as often as you’d like to think, so no. I don’t feel bad.
Is an apology to Joseph still on the table re:preferred arrest policies?
Or, according to your view, every arrest is appropriate.
And every time someone pleads guilty, he must be guilty.ubiquitin
Do you consider what you’ve written a serious response? I can’t tell
I really don’t understand this argument.
The op originally asked a rabbi. If the op isnt going to listen to the answer, why ask?
If the op is going to do it anyway, why ask?
The rabbi said not to do it. Op’s gut says he’s wrong.
The question is do you listen to Halacha or follow your gut in order to feel better. Is Op a frum Jew? Isn’t this obvious?Your only arguments would be perhaps that this Rabbi doesn’t understand the gravity, so ask him if he’d be okay if you discuss it with someone else. But the op keeps mentioning that this is a well-regarded community Rabbi. So again, I don’t understand the argument.
Daas Torah vs your “gut”.There’s a poster right now (syag) who can’t tell the difference between fantasy and truth.
Making up stories to fit your narrative is silly.Syag,
I’m still waiting for you to apologize to Joseph, claiming that he made up preferred arrest policies. Do your own research.
These policies do exist and countless unwarranted and unnecessary arrests are madeI won’t hold my breath. Your lack of open-mindedness in is thread is very telling.
ubiquitin
You framed it as Lo saamod. If your Ruv says it’s not a issue of lo sammod, than it isn’t.
A fire can spread and distroy a city block. This isn’t analogies at all. You have two options.
Do nothing, and do the right thing according to your ruv,
Call law enforcement in a frum family in order to satift your need to “do something”. In the process perhaps destroying a family and definitely doing a sin.“there is a lav “Lo saamod Al Dam reicha”
That’s where a Ruv comes in. And if he decides it’s not an issue, then it’s not. The rest is irrelevant.
If it’s bothering you, ask again.
Moilech
What you’re doing is disgusting. Even though you think that you’re being cute and funny, the fact is that you’re preventing others from reading Torah wisdom seriously.Stop it. Being a letz has its hazards. Don’t fall into the pit.
Avi K
It seems that we finally agree on something!
Btw, the letter explicitly state that the story occurred in Lakewood.
Nor does it say what the background is, why the other parents would want their daughter is associating with her. Why is it assumed that they were wrong?Avi K.
1. How do you define “overzealous”?
Working for the government. It’s their job to try getting a guilty plea.2. Unfortunately I had experiences with this type in my youth. I’m sorry to hear that, but I’m not sure what relevance it has.
3. You still have not answered my question about white-collar cases.
What exactly is your question? If you’re asking if they’re any more guilty with a guilty plea or being found by a jury to be guilty, my answer is the same. Just to be clear, I’m not saying that most people in jail aren’t guilty and should be there. What I am saying, is that being found guilty by the US court system doesn’t mean you’re actually guilty.4. While it is true that YCT lists him on their “rabbinic advisory board” at the beginning of the article he only lists positions at Stern College (which machshirs him in my book) – and BTW, the YU website has his shiurim and Columbia and NYU law schools. While Rabbi Weiss has moved significantly to the left it could be that Rabbi Berman did not.
Associating with someone whose agenda is to destroy the Yiddishkite that I know makes him posul. I honestly don’t care. He can walk away from the movement and then we’ll talk. I’m not sure where article you referring, to by the way.
(5) In any case, he was quoting Rav Soloveichik.
I don’t have to necessarily trust him. I used to have a book about the life of the man in question. The book had roughly 50 interviews quoting major students of his with contradictory testimonies, regarding matters such as religious Zionism, Shabbos elevators, and even abortions.Well said, bk613
That’s sums it up.OP
If you looking for actual advice, I advise you to find your local Orthodox doctor and ask him how he did it/what obstacles he faced. If he’s frum today I’d imagine he’d be happy to discuss it with you.
I assume you understand that it’s difficult based in your questioning. I’m not a doctor, but some of my friends are, and I can’t say their level of frumkite was left unscathed throughout their medical education career.
Of my friends, the only one that stayed true to his upbringing was the one who had a very close relationship with his Ruv.Avi K.
I don’t know much about Berman but I do know that he’s part of Avi Weiss’ crew. That makes him a pariah in my book. I hope in yours as well.CTLAWYER
You’re definitely naive. I’ve worked through the legal system. And I can tell you from the workings on the inside, it’s definitely not a fair system. I can only tell you about New York City but overzealous prosecutors exists everywhere. That’s their job.
So no, you’re not intentionally wrong, but you’re infatuated with a corrupted system. And writing it in caps doesn’t make you more right.
But I would advise you to speak to your colleagues, those who practice criminal law, and you might get a different opinion.Avi K. You’re missing the point. By the very fact that a civil court system is created to keep the peace vs assign who is innocent who’s guilty, proves that being found guilty by the court system doesn’t actually mean you’re guilty. It means that the government has a reason to do something with you or your property to keep the peace.
“Moreover, the probability is very high that they are, in fact, guilty. Even if some are not guilty of the specific crimes charged they very likely committed similar crimes but were not caught.”
And how do you know any of this? Because the prosecutor is telling you ? You have my blessings never to know how this actually works.
CTLAWYER
You confirmed my suspicions. Your rosy view of our legal system is understandable but wrong.
I’m sure your criminal lawyer colleagues will confirm. This holds especially true in places like New York City, where the average citizen is low class.Avi K.1, there’s a huge difference between “keeping the peace” and proving guilt.
Avi K.2 Dinim also means ensuring the public worships one Gd. But, yes, they have an obligation to keep the peace as wellsimcha613- That;s not how halacha works. To be found guilty, it must be 100%. However, keeping the peace also exists in Jewish Law. Bais Din has that power.
TheGoq- follow the news better. Yes, it happens frequently enough to warrant calling it “happens (almost) every day”
I’ve sat in jury pools in NYC a number of times. My “peers” were the lowest of the low. Consistently.
CTLAWYER-Can I assume you don’t practice criminal law?
Moilech
I’m trying to follow up on the information you’ve given us, I can’t seem to find anything online. Please provide the name of the organization or company that you’re referring to.
You’re very willing to disparage Joseph for his lack of evidence, yet, you provide none as well.
When Joseph asked very important questions, such as the sample size Etc, you got all defensive and tell them to look it up on his own. So here I ask you, please provide this information or direct me where I can find it.You’re forgetting that most important to those who believe in a single-payer system, is that we should all be the same. The government shouldn’t allow people with more money to receive a better Healthcare just because they have more money. We should all be exactly the same.
Joseph is pointing out, that with that logic, the same should extend to homeless shelters, housing, and other necessary amenities. We should either all live in mansions or none of us should.One of the best posts I’ve seen in awhile
KudosAvi K
Welcome to the reform movement. That’s exactly how it starts.1. Duh, which is why it does not contain Trans fat.
2. Incorrect R. Litzman is against disgusting gory pictures, he’s FOR written warnings
3. I have no idea what you’re talking about. R. Litzman was voted the most well liked Israeli pol last year. One bad story doesn’t make him a pariah.rational jew
Part of taking government money is following their rules.
Israel’s medical insurance is government run. If you don’t like single payer system, vote for change. Don’t blame Rabbi Litzman for doing his job.Avi K,
Sorry to bust your bubble, but typical potato Kugel does not have trans fat.
As ” Health minister” his job is to look our for your health. Why are you okay with him being a nanny in regards to cigarettes, but you’re against him being a nanny in regards to trans fat?!? Either he’s a nanny, or he isn’t. You can’t pick and choose. Unless you’re against him because you don’t like him, not for any rational reason.Health
You’re not a liar, you’re just pompous. You’re disparaging one of the most successful and well-run Jewish Community programs we have. You’re saying that they don’t know what they’re doing, and you can do it better. You vastly underestimate their capabilities, and whenever some challenges you, you feign ignorance as ” why are you picking on me?”.The fact does remain that the hatzolah response time is unmatched. Vastly, vastly Superior to any other city or volunteer program.
And yes, there is almost literally an hatzolah member living on every frum Square Block in New York City.
This is not an exaggeration. It is merely a fact.
Which is why, this feminist ideology, cloaked with modesty and privacy, is hurting lives. Unless they can swell their numbers to fifty or sixty members, there’s no way they can compete with hatzalah. And their insistence of not calling hatzalah when they’re in over their heads must end.Hmmmm
Is there a reason why the name of the nifter cannot be mentioned on this post?Besides privacy issues, no permission and no real valid reason why it should be mentioned?
Update
My sources tell me it’s unfortunately true.
As others have pointed out, the group can’t be held accountable legally. They follow the protocol. The problem is, the protocol isn’t good for this community. They must be held accountable. This isn’t a joke, this isn’t an experiment.They have blood on their hands.
get over your cuddled NYC ways? Why should we? For what purpose? To serve a feminist agenda?
I KNOW NOTHING OF THE STORY!
Btw, their numbers are very similar.
One is 718-232-1300
One is 718-230-1000Honestly, how many of us know which is which without looking it up?
Bumb
Or is it bump?Wolf
I don’t think they have a separate school for 12 graders at Hogwart’s. As far as I remember, 12th grade doesn’t exist in the Magical World
Besides, isn’t she long dead?Kumzitz in the rain is good
apushatayid,
The cost is annual .
Sorry, no linksDaasYochid,
You’re making it to complicated.
There’s no obligation for women to marry according to the 613 mitzovs.
Obviously, society is better off when women get married. That makes it a mitzva, but it’s not obligatory.
“Chashad” isn’t something that comes up during a regular lifetime of a single girl. So it’s really not relevant.
#1 tragedy facing the Shabbos dinner table is….calling a seudah, “dinner”.
“And for the record, both Amazon and Paypal file 1099’s with the IRS”
So what? that doesn’t make it ok for you to cheat the State of its’ USE TAX!
I did do the research for New York City, and above posters are correct. Uber will not accept you as a driver in New York City unless you have a TLC license, and have separate commercial insurance.
It took some digging, but I found what you’re referring to.
According to the article he “looked into it”. That should be enough for you. he is a “rav” after all!
Syag Lchochma-
“Perhaps you are defining abuse so specifically that it cannot include the commonplace embarrassment, subtle put downs, dismissals that seem like nothing but dig into the child. And you are only thinking of horrible things that really and honestly would not be happening.”
This particular paragraph speaks volumes of your understanding and outlook of Chinch.
Do you really believe that a “offhand” remark is abuse? Subtle putdowns? Dismissals? All abuse? No wonder you see abuse everywhere.
You are the perfect Ami reader. Congrats!
Wow! It looks like I really misread this one!
@RebYidd23, as the op points out, he’s ashamed of his actions. He needs advice on the proper next move.
@DaasYochid,
Sorry, but your jib about the rustling pork rinds is uncalled for. This yid is in pain.