As far as protecting innocents, absolutely. But it cannot done in a manner that penalizes the person in a manner unauthorized by the Torah.

Incorrect. The Halacha is explicit not like you. The Shulchan Aruch, Rema, Sma, and Shach all say in the second siman of Choshen Mishpat that if there is a real problem in a community with a certain issue, the ones in charge are authorized to take measures not sanctioned by normative rules of Choshen Mishpat – even if that means killing the person, or any other of penalty (as long as we are authorized by the government to do so of course).

A deterrent is needed. There’s no better way to say it – it’s simply tough luck on this kid.

This is not a question of punishment. I don’t believe in punishment. Who are we to judge? In this sense I agree with popa that we have no idea why the kid is like this.

But I don’t think locking up a murderer or executing him is about punishment either. It is about protecting society from him, and it’s about making other potential criminals think twice.

Does this kid deserve to be maligned? It isn’t relevant. The community is more important than him. If he hadn’t done anything then it might not be morally right to make such a judgement call of individual versus community, but he jumped on the scale by committing his crime.

Can he do teshuva? Of course! Is it possible that he isn’t even at fault for his actions, due to some deeply rooted issue in his brain caused by someone else? Certainly. But that makes no difference to us, as a functioning society. If someone’s bad upbringing were causing him to come at me with a gun, I’d still run him over with my car. His personal motivations are between him and God.

Once you jump into the ring, my life comes first. Otherwise society goes down the tubes.

Simply put each set of strings into small sandwich bags and close them tightly with twist ties, and then chuck it in the washing machine. Use a few bags, one over the other, if you want to ensure that no water gets in.

now that was from left field

There is a legend about R’ Moshe that he was officiating a wedding and in middle of the chuppa the mother cried out that her son was a mamzer. As the story goes, without a moment’s hesitation R’ Moshe said, “ignore her; her testimony is inadmissible.”

I go with the Mechaber

I don’t.

It is not a stretch to say that without cleaning ones teeth it is a vadai, that meat is be stuck inside.

For six hours, every single time? It is a stretch.

you have Rashi, who holds that the shuman stays in the mouth and gives flavor for 6 hours

It’s still not always/vadai. Besides, following Rashi and the Rambam lechumra is not the ikkar hadin either. The Tur’s lashon is ??? ????? ?????? ??? ?????.

the general population (re:not everyone) accepted the halacha of the Rambam and the Rashi

You have no basis for that, and I believe it is incorrect. The minhag is in accordance with what the Rambam held lehalacha, but it is a minhag, not the ikkar hadin as the Rambam himself held; as I explained the Rema.

uneeq – According to the Rema the Halacha follows Tosafos, and that which we keep six hours is a minhag. Moreover, even the Rambam/Mechaber obviously only holds it’s a chashash that there’s meat, not that there’s vadai meat. Everyone underdstands that lekulei alma waiting six hours is less chamur than actually eating them together. That’s a davar pashut.

Popa – the top tosafos in Chullin 6b is mevuar not like you, vdoik.

Kozov – I haven’t commented on this thread (well I did make a joke in the beginning but the mods didn’t put it through…) but I’ll take the ochel from the psoless; thanks for the compliment. 🙂

I suppose every ba’al teshuva’s parents accidentally kept taharas hamishpacha, yes?

There is a letter from the Rambam in which tells his student to wish his wife well for him. He goes on to explain that greeting normally is not included in that which Chazal said that it is a lack of tznius to inquire about a woman’s welfare.

Furthermore, see the Aruch HaShulchan on that siman who cites a Ritva and says that these Halachos change with the times, and where people are used to it there is no issur.

oomis – +1

Maybe they post here.

Start with Rolos.

I dunno, but I’m in Lakewood right now holding a smart phone and not getting any stares.

I hear.

Accepted by whom exactly?

If you’re going with a pen, the thinnest you can get is definitely the best, so I’ll second that.

Lol popa

Chacham – No, it doesn’t fit the criteria. Most ingredients are meant for flavor, avida leta’ama has to be something strong and very distinctively discernible in the final product. (I don’t have access to seforim right now but see the Taz on the se’if of avida leta’ama.)