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yitayningwutParticipantHa! We have DaasYochid on our side!
yitayningwutParticipantSyag Lchochma –
Thank you. Regarding the 2% rule: According to FDA regulations all ingredients have to be reported on the label (with the exclusion of e.g. specific spices, if the label says spices). I was told this in an email by a representative of the FDA. There is a two percent rule which may have caused this rumor to start, but it isn’t a kashrus concern. It has to do with grouping ingredients together at the end.
Prince Charming – Thanks.
January 5, 2012 12:32 am at 12:32 am in reply to: Want to know the difference between us and them? #841970yitayningwutParticipant(i know, you aren’t a dude)
January 5, 2012 12:31 am at 12:31 am in reply to: Want to know the difference between us and them? #841969yitayningwutParticipantwelcome to the club dude
yitayningwutParticipantOk, now I have a bone to pick with you.
That’s all fine and good that you figured out that there’s no ???? on the tes. But what is the correct nikud? Hmm.
The truth is it is a ??? ???, not a ??? ????. How is a ??? ??? pronounced? Well, for Ashkenazim there isn’t really a difference, but for Sephardim, it is pronounced the same as their ???? which is almost the same as both of our ???-es.
Now let’s think. Assuming we are using standard Artscroll, Yated etc. methods of transliteration, the nikud is transliterated Sephardi (Avraham, not Avrohom; Sarah, not Soroh). So how to transliterate ??????
Based on the above, it should be transliterated Haftorah, because it is a ??? ???, which in correct Sephardi pronunciation is pronounced “oh.”
Turns out you are just as “guilty” as the people you are ranting about.
(By the way, I think this also explains how it evolved so that people started saying haf-tow-rah.)
yitayningwutParticipanthello99 –
He is not ignorant at all. He is well informed of the metzius. This is a fact. You do not have to believe me and I suppose I wouldn’t believe the testimony of an anonymous blogger either. But you yourself admit to his intelligence and to your surprise that one of such intelligence would issue such psakim, so it would behoove you to at least admit the possibility that perhaps there is something you didn’t think of. (And I mean know disrespect by that. I think you are probably the biggest talmid chacham here and I am not chas veshalom coming to put you down. I just happen to respect my rav more.)
I am not going to debate this with you, because I am afraid I won’t do a good enough job, and I would not want to chas veshalom disgrace my rav due to my own shortcomings. I am confident that he can stand his ground in any area of halacha. That’s all.
yitayningwutParticipantill_be_strong –
That’s not fair. She had no clue there was such a shita out there, and once we are talking halacha, she most definitely followed halacha by speaking up (assuming she did it in a respectful way, which I’m sure she did), as the Torah says ???? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ???? ???.
yitayningwutParticipantMod 72 –
The 2% thing is a myth. I contacted the FDA myself and they wrote to me that everything must be included in the label.
The only questions are with certain ambiguous terms, such as spices or flavorings. They are not required to write all the specific ingredients, they may put some under such headings. These you have to be careful with.
It was not my intention to engage in a Halachic discussion on this thread. I only meant to point out that there is a valid limud zechus.
Cinderella – You absolutely did the right thing by communicating your thoughts, to her and to us. As I said, my only intention is to inform you that there is a valid limud zechus.
Sam2 – Thanks for getting that.
yitayningwutParticipantItche, thanks.
yitayningwutParticipantsupergirl613 –
I’m not saying you should do this. My main point is that you shouldn’t be alarmed if you see people doing this, because they have what to rely on.
yitayningwutParticipantcinderella –
I don’t want to get into technical halacha discussions here, but here are some facts. The is an opinion out there that pas akum and bishul akum are not a problem with packaged goods from a company (since the only issue is that they will lead you to become friendly with the goyim and in with packaged goods from a company that’s not a concern). There are other reasons as well.
The thing is that a lot of Hersheys stuff are kosher so for them to say that something isn’t there must be a reason. Right?
For one, OU’s policy is not to rely on certain halachic leniencies. Her rav might hold there is no reason not to.
You didn’t do anything wrong. You were following what you had been taught, and it’s impressive that you thought to be mekayem the mitzva of tochacha. I’m just giving you some info for the future, that there are perfectly valid opinions out there which say that reading ingredients is fine.
yitayningwutParticipantAgain, I know a lot of people don’t hold this way, and I am not coming to pasken for everyone. I am just saying that it is an opinion that’s out there, and one which I personally hold by (per my rav).
yitayningwutParticipantThere’s a lot of talk, I cannot do it justice. If you have a Shulchan Aruch it’s mainly in Yoreh Deah 141:4. The general idea it is forbidden to create an image of anything in the celestial sphere, even if it’s just a picture.
yitayningwutParticipantHehe. You wish!
yitayningwutParticipantPopa –
Anything. Bread, cookies, chips, drinks, you name it.
yitayningwutParticipantcantgetit –
Just answered you, in my above post.
yitayningwutParticipantalways, you have to click options after you click the wrench. then you’ll see “under the hood” on the left side.
yitayningwutParticipantcinderella –
Yes. As long as you know what each ingredient means and you know they are all kosher, you are fine. Though as usual, ask a rav before listening to some anonymous blogger.
(By the way, did your Big Gulp have a hechsher on it?)
cantgetit –
There is no reason to assume that there is a problem. There are a few halachic arguments one can make to that effect, but I think they are beyond the scope of this discussion (my point was just to say that there are those who say it is fine, so one should not be alarmed seeing a seemingly frum Jew doing so).
yitayningwutParticipantcinderella –
I would do the same thing (and I do it all the time). Not everyone holds that any products require a hechsher. In fact in some countries there aren’t any hechsherim, and people walk around with a list of ingredients so they can figure out what’s kosher by reading the package labels.
yitayningwutParticipantThe halacha in Shulchan Aruch is here:
yitayningwutParticipantNu nu. No one ever died from a kasha. It’s not a reason to be kofer in Chrome.
yitayningwutParticipantWIY –
Nothing will change. No condemnation will change anyone’s minds. I accept that some form of condemnation is necessary if only to disassociate ourselves from these people for political reasons, but a one paragraph public statement should suffice. For us regular people, there’s nothing we can do anyway, and dwelling on it and feeling guilty is silly and only playing into the hands of some very cynical, hypocritical, and bigoted people.
yitayningwutParticipantYentingyenta – No clue. I just tried that site from my browser and it comes up perfectly.
OneOfMany – If I’m not mistaken Chrome doesn’t have that option (some people don’t like that), unless she is specifically opening an ‘incognito window’ (shift+ctrl+n).
yitayningwutParticipantOh yeah that sounds much more accurate than my idea. Whoops.
yitayningwutParticipantOr maybe it was Mishpacha? The one a little while back interviewing Rav Shachter about the current Beis Din system. He has his criticisms of it, and mentioned in passing that he knows this supposedly prominent rav who won’t go on record but he holds people should go straight to secular court. To the best of my knowledge this opinion is shared to different extents by different rabbanim, even if the general rule, according to the mainstream view, is as you have said.
yitayningwutParticipantyentingyenta –
I only asked because Wikipedia seemed to say that Silverlight works with Chrome on every version of Windows except 2000, just not with Macs.
yitayningwutParticipantTry this – Click on the wrench on the top right corner; click Options; click Under the Hood; by Privacy, click Content Settings; and click the top one.
yitayningwutParticipantPopa – Not everyone holds it is so simple. Did you read that Ami article?
yitayningwutParticipantyentingyenta –
You have a mac, right?
yitayningwutParticipantHehe. Listen, just because it’s pretty doesn’t mean it’s stupid.
yitayningwutParticipantReally? I didn’t know! But I still like my Chrome.
yitayningwutParticipantHey don’t listen to her, I use Chrome and I love it.
Chrome is great for bookmarks. If you bookmark anything with a favicon (that little icon that shows up next to the site name – on YWN it’s that gray ball with a white zigzag through it that’s supposed to say ywn) you can make the favicon stay on the top of your browser without any words to clutter up the space. Just bookmark it and then right-click it and hit edit and delete the words. This way you can have forty pretty, little, easy to use bookmarks on top of your page. For some reason I haven’t found this available on any other browser, though perhaps things are different since the last time I experimented.
yitayningwutParticipantIgnore them.
yitayningwutParticipantDaasYochid – It does remember me, but it still automatically logs me out, and then I have to click log in again on the CR. Too much work for my fingers.
yitayningwutParticipantHey what’s with the Civic bashing? Civics are awesome!
That being said, I bashed mine yesterday… 🙁
yitayningwutParticipantYeah, me too.
yitayningwutParticipantAlways – Why not just bookmark the pages you always use, and keep the bookmarks on the top of your browser?
yitayningwutParticipantSometimes I do, but it’s annoying because for some reason I have to log in separately to do so, and when I do it automatically logs me out of my regular CR account. And your reason too.
yitayningwutParticipantI’m getting tired of this already.
Regardless of what anyone does, there will always people finding ways to put down the “Chareidi” community.
It’s a silly, moot point. Stop actively condemning. Just have some shtoltz, live your own life, and don’t feel guilty about the fact that there are a few lunatics somewhere doing something wrong that you cannot prevent in any way.
The only reason one would get so involved is because one accepts the absurd premise that somehow their actions reflect on who we are. How stupid. Just ignore those bigots.
Next…
yitayningwutParticipantOh now I get it. 🙂
yitayningwutParticipantI must be tired.
yitayningwutParticipantHuh? I don’t get it. Maybe in truth it was not switched, but the mother of the dead one is convinced that the live one is hers and that therefore it must have been switched.
yitayningwutParticipantWhy should I give you a reason?
yitayningwutParticipantMaybe he knew whose it was, because he figured out that the other was lying. There are professionals who can do this today, so if he was so smart he was probably able to read them. But he needed evidence, so he orchestrated this whole scheme in order to get the liar to confess.
yitayningwutParticipanttwo trolls (maybe just one?)
yitayningwutParticipantSam2 –
Also look up the makor in Maseches Kallah (rabasi). I don’t have time now but I will do so myself over Shabbos, because if I remember correctly it was mashma from there that it’s not so pashut that the halacha is like the Chachamim (then again, the stam Gemara in Nedarim should still trump that).
yitayningwutParticipantSam2 – I think the Rema in EH goes like you. And I agree the Gemara in Nedarim is pashut not like the Mechaber in OC, and this should be obvious to anyone whoever learned the Gemara. Problem is the chumros in the Gemara are mentioned by the poskim anyway, for example a Tosafos I just learned in Niddah (12a). If I remember correctly the version in Maseches Kallah is a bit different and can shed some light here.
December 30, 2011 5:13 am at 5:13 am in reply to: question that will probably be controversial #841408yitayningwutParticipantlol for some reason most people don’t
December 30, 2011 5:11 am at 5:11 am in reply to: Want to know the difference between us and them? #841965yitayningwutParticipantHehe… Yeah, just cuz I’m FFB doesn’t mean I don’t know stuff. 😉
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