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I agree with you 100% but posting your issue on the coffee room is not helping anyone and will not resolve the problem. Awareness should be increase and Rabonim should be notified and encouraged to speak about it, but public defamation for no purpose is simply wrong.
Vegas is different because goyim live there. The Chofetz Chaim says that one should even try not to tell lashon hara about non-jews but it is muttar, especially l’toeles. There is no Toeles here and 90% of the 5 towns contains Yidden. I am not denying that there is an issue- I am a male from one of the towns where this issue does not exist (Lawrence), nonetheless I still find it disgusting for someone to go on an online site and bash their brothers and sisters in an ehrlich community (by clouding all 5 towns under the same umbrella) and even in the communities where this problem is rampant-it is unacceptable and ASSUR. IF THERE IS NO PURPOSE AND IT DOES NOT FILL ALL 8 REQUIREMENTS FOR L’TOELES- THEN IT SHOULD BE SAID. NO DISCUSSION. PERIOD.
You don’t know how much Torah is learned and lived in the five towns. There are so many talmidei chachamim and people who are moser nefesh who live in the five towns…. Comparing a place full of kedusha and people killing themselves to serve HKBH to Vegas????! Just because you hear bad things about a place doesn’t make it treif. Everyone has their Nisyonos in life and if you saw what goes on inside everyones private lives- you would be shocked.
Just to clarify-I’m not disregarding the problem. It’s just that this is not the way the issue should be handled and no good will come from publicizing the issue in this manner.
Thank you for your opinion “philosopher” but don’t make cheshbonos that no man can confirm. You must be out of your mind to state on a public forum that Kiruv among non-forum yidden should take backstage! You don’t know what gives hakadosh baruch hu what nachas ruach, not that I know either, and I definitely don’t have the gall to make it seem like I do! Before calling yourself philosopher- read anything the Ramchal, Kuzari, etc, wrote and you will see that you’re clearly coming from the wrong standpoint on the purpose of yahadus is.
I have a good solution YankleCohen4: Don’t tell Lashon Hara about an entire community (Seems to also be Motzi Shem Ra because you have no right to include all 5 towns in this). Even if it is 100% true, the correct halachic and Torahdik response would be to speak to a posek. This is definitely the wrong approach and you should be fixing your bein adam lachaveiro of telling lashon hara about thousands of people before you worry about issues that come from going out to lunch every day.