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this thread makes me laughhhh- mod(s), you have great sense of humor(s)
“I’m trying to understand how one goes more out of their way on the internet for bad than on Facebook.”
Are you able to please rephrase that? I don’t really undersatnd what you are trying to understand…
You could look at whoevers pictures you want- I’m not saying you can’t- by all means have your friends or cousins show you them through e-mail or in person. What’s wrong with that? Does it take any longer or is it harder to email it? Definitely not. In high school I used to upload pictures on facebook and it would take a long time, longer then sending a mass email to my cousins with the pictures attached…
obviously it is really hard to never look at pictures and find out about simchas you werent invited to, but it is clear that facebook was established and is used primaraly for gossip- even though bH i am sure nobody on this site uses their facebook intentionally for that purpose- that is what it is for! I know! I’m not making this stuff up. I had one, members of my family have them (immediate and my aunts uncles and cousins), and many of my friends ! (None of whom are bad people and I love them all..)
If you watch videos on Youtube (chas v’shalom 🙂 ), then type in- “so you want to close your facebook account” – pretty good sum up of my feelings (minus the C word he uses..) even goyim realize how fake it is – (just a disclaimer- i also think youtube can be used for good and for bad- and I really try not to go on.. that is what I am working on now… Even though I still use it, I am acknowleging the fact that it is bitul zman and it definitely has an impact on my neshama even though I don’t realize it and i only watch videos rarely.. )
I hope this helps..
this has been said before, and I dont mind saying it again but the fact that all of these organizations and companies use facebook as a tool to advertise is because many people around the world have Facebook, not necessaraly because they approve of it, and even if they do approve- okay so they don’t realize how harmful it could be. Yes I agree that internet and cell phone and skype and everything could be used for the bad, but for those things you have to go out of your way to do bad.. ex: go on bad websites,etc. but for facebook- do you know why it was even created? definitely not to keep in touch with family. I believe it was because mark zuckerbraun wanted to see all of the pretty girls in his college and then it expanded to other colleges and then to the public. Maybe now you use it to keep in touch, but that isnt what it is meant for and why majority of the users post pictures. Everyone who is saying they are using it for the good- like Rabbi Wallerstein said- “Even if you put a mezuzah on a bathroom doesnt make the bathroom holy.” Facebook is made for being used to judge other people and see if you think they are good looking or not, you cant justify it and say that since I am doing kosher things on it, it is a kosher website. (I am just rephrasing R’ Wallerstein..)
I challenge all of you who still have your facebook’s and dont plan on deleting them that whenever you look at pictures of your friends, family, or a random person you dont even know who is a friend of a friend of a friend, be aware of what your thoughts are…… (She looks so pretty, ugly, weird, not tznius, her outfit is ugly… Why was she invited to that simcha and not me?.. they are going out? she deserves better than him.. ive seen cuter babies.. why did he make tht his status? not everyone has to know about that..etc etc) If ALL of your thoughts are pure and innocent, then not only will I stop bothering you about this topic (which I am only doing because I care about all of your precious neshamos) but I will idolize you and consider you on the level of Gedolei Hador, because they are probably the only people who can see every single thing as good and giving the benefit of the doubt and not being judgmental, other than them- not even sure if they can do it- but we all have a lot to work on… Anyway- if any of you are still reading this, and you have facebook- get back to me in a few weeks and let me know if you’ve succeeded this challenge.
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Happy birthday Last Rebel! Mazel tov to me! I went on my first shidduch date!
LBJ- sorry i wasnt here to back you up all day, and I agree with you, but at the same time you don’t have to speak harshly to others because they have facebook accounts- they arent horrible people. yes facebook is horrible, and unfortunately as you can tell it is like any other bad thing- when you are in it, it is really hard to see the faults.. but once you step back, you can see how bad everything is.. (happens with relationships a lot…)
I am making an assumption that all of the people who are disagreeing with you/us are the people who have facebook and don’t see how bad it really is (if you are controlling your business’s facebook for parnasa it is a different story- I am talking about personal facebook account)..
i think i should tie Leiby in to this since the thread is about him… i saw ppl posted that what does facebook have to do with Leiby? Well something I wanted to personally work on was how I laugh in public (my laugh is usually really loud and it is not so tznius) so I decided to work on that seriously in Leiby’s memory.. did Leiby laugh really loud also? I dont know and it really doesnt matter- it is just something that I was doing wrong that I need to fix and Leiby pushed me to do it. This facebook idea is something that all of Klal yisroel needs a push to get rid of, and LBJ was taking this oppurtunity to help give a push to people who still have one, bc getting rid of it will ultimately gives a person’s life so much more meaning,spirituality and holiness. I have so much more to say about all the other comments but I think this post is long enough. Just to repeat- I AM NOT saying that anyone who has a facebook is bad Jew, I am just saying that if you are trying to become a better Jew, then deleting your facebook is a pretty easy and great way to do it- especially in Leiby’s memory.
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Funny you said that- (I just joined CR this week) I was thinking last night at 1 am when i was thinking that the last time i stayed up till 1 am on the computer was when I had a facebook not realizing the time, and now it’s this that is keeping me up so late. I was wondering how yeshivish could this be bc it seems to me that it is leading to a lot of bitul torah. but then again, majority of the people here probably limit their time and come on it just to help other people out. It is very nice to read and to discuss some topics with fellow yiddin, but you are right- i think i might delete it…
mikehall- thats your yezer hara talking. everyone uses it to “keep in contact with friends and family who do not live near me”… it’s sad that if you dont have facebook you wouldnt keep in touch with these people.. maybe its saying something about how much you care about the relationship. BH nowadays with technology you could email them,skype, or pick up a phone and speak to them. Its not so hard to keep in touch without facebook.I dont have one and I am still very close with my family and friends who do not live near me – just not through facebook. that excuse is a copout. come on, you are better than that.
k9 is great. Free and does the job.
If anyone has questions or concerns- feel free to ask!
Great idea!! I deleted mine over a year ago!! My life is soooo much more meaningful and so much less time on the computer and speaking lashon hara and everything. Really facebook is the biggest yezer hara (I deleted mine bc of Rabbi Wallerstein…) and after a few days I didn’t even think about it ever. When you have it, you think you can’t live without it, but then once you delete it, you never think about it again. Unfortunately all of my friends still have theirs, and when they come over they try to log on on my computer, so I dowloaded k-9 web protection (free website blocker- highly recommend) and now they can’t even log on at my house so I don’t even have to look at it ever!! Trust me everyone- it isnt that hard to delete and your life will be perfectly fine without it! not only will it be fine, but it will be MUCH better!!!! DO it!!!! and especially for Leiby- what a great idea!
What was the whole deal with Joseph? can someone explain? i just started reading coffee room a few days ago and I keep reading about joseph but I am so lost!
Gave up english music, movies, tv, pants, short sleeves, magazines, friendships and more. I wish i could give more up for tznius, and I try- but it is soo hard! I dress tzniusly but I am very outgoing and friendly and I just feel not myself if I stay quiet in the corner. thats not me! any advice?!? how could i be tznius and outgoing at the same time?!
nebuch. what is this world coming to?!?!?!
i agree with peacemaker- the fact that they called to find out about you is normal and good that they are making sure to accept the right ppl, but i dont think he should have told you. But you are in the jewish world, where everybody knows everybody and these things are bound to happen. We just have to learn to live with it. Sorry!
Hilarious facebook comment. I was laughing out loud..
first things first- turn the computer off! this website keeps me up for hours without even realizing it!!
try listening to a shuir of a Rabbi who has a calm voice. I know it sounds weird and chitzpah, but those always help me fall asleep!!
love the word thimble. sounds like symbol with a lisp.
Very very very tough situation. I face this every week too. Not really much advice besides try to realize which halachos are really important and which you can be a little meikal on to maintain peace. Sometimes the kiddush Hashem and relationship is more important than fighting and anger.
Definitely moral for them to respond. When someone calls you to ask a question and you answer it, is it okay to just hang up once they got their answer? 🙂
i like “grill it” too!!