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manuel antonio
even avraham fried said on p1 concert that mbd is “only happens once in a lifetime”
my comment before got messed up
It wasn’t messed up, it was repaired
first of all the fact that deleted rechnitz is getting calls from all over klal yisroel to get kids in …is prob the reason that other people who dont have connections to him dont get in.
i also think that the fact that its their fault makes that we dont have to accept them into the good schools also we try to help them from “killing” their kids by having tag offices and mussar shmussen from roshay yeshiva etc. accepting them into the yeshivish schools will probably not change the future for the good of any kid thats brought up with open internet etc. in their house – on the contrary itll probably just ruin other kids.
to ubiquitin i agree that its a problem but he made it sound like kids are dropping like flies.
As far as I know motzei shem ra is no less a halachik issur than the internet. Watch your words please or I may have to be in touch with your kid’s principal’s
rebyidd23 how? by living in lakewood which according to everybody is “supposed to be yeshivish” and people who live here and do things and wear clothing or anything that would make you look diffrent than most of the town or at least the part that runs the schooling system …those people ..the parents should think before becoming “open minded” that they live in lakewood and they should try to conform that way theyre kids will get into school.
to bored on the job first of all look in the rambam hilchos dais what he talks about hashpaas and look in other mussar seforim also we are not sacrificing them they are sacrificing themselves
rebyidd23 thats the parents of the child fault
health i heard from someone who heard from a rebbi in the yeshiva and i spoke to someone who is personally involved in the schools
to gamanit being at har sinai certainly makes you jewish but that has nothing to do with putting two kids in the same class even lhavdil by the goyim they separate collages for smarter people …kol shekain for yidishe neshamois who b”h some know very little about the “wonders of technology” and other outside influences all of the sudden are hanging out with friends who this coming sunday are gonna be watching the super with their family and friends …and it is well known and tested and proven the power of hashpas caused by bad friends.
and to health you missed my first comment he set up this dinner as if it was the only most wide spread pikuach nefesh ever …and if the percentage is basicly what a community of a unprecedented growth rate (unlike la where everyone gets in because theres probably less kids birn there a year than a week in lakewood) should look like than why doesnt he rally and “set up” other events and dinners and speak for a hour anout those other very important stuff
i was saying that since if you count the numbers its really not that much that are not getting into school because of whatever he said and its just as important to talk about other stuff why did he make it sound like the whole world is taluy in this
because he set up the dinner to talk about it
TO UBIQUITIN I DONT THINK EVEN ONE KID SHOULD BE LEFT OUT COMPLETELY OF SCHOOL but the fact that some kids out of the 100+ born a week in lakewood dont get in to a school is not a reason for rechnitz to talk like that about “lakewood”.
why didnt he talk about people who have terrible shalom bayis …or other big problems that are equally comman
daas baal habayis hepech daas toirah
who ever it was that started this idea that you cant take money from someone who wouldnt be accepted into the school (i think its mr rechnitz)- its nonsense.
i want to bring up another point the reason why in la every kid gets into school is because there is not so many kids there and this, that only lakewood has such a extreme problem…”lakewood is the only place where there is a vaad setup to take care of these kids”.
Also, i am curious what percentage of kids that dont get accepted, really dont belong in the school? (i.e. a 5th grader who has his own ipad etc., i guess rechnitz thinks that everyone should get in so…) and what percentage just “fell” through the cracks without any pull or whatever it is that rechnitz said you “need” in order to be part of lakewood?
bored on the job first of all i dont think that called moiser the nefesh if you dont accept a kid who based on the administration he or she might ruin other kids “more than one”.
second i happen to believe that the parents really do care about their childrens ruchnius even if they are not completely leshim shamayim in the long run their hashkafa doesnt agree with having kids in their class who regularly watch tv shows etc.
to cv yes the town was meant and will forever be run around bmg the traffic the hours of stores etc. and kal vchomer when it comes to yeshivas and schools.
like someone told me – in places outside lakewood where the problem is just as big if not biger because lakewood is THE ONLY PLACE that has a vaad setup to take care of these kids – the yeshivish send to one school (basicly) and the less yeshivish to another… as opposed to lakewood where everybody hangs out and davens and shops in the same few places … so they assume that because the area code on their house phone 732 they should get into school with kids who’s mother and father are moiser nefesh in 2016 to bring their kids up in the most sheltered way they could imagine (obviously there is no fool proof way but…)
and to flatbush agent … lakewood as frum as it is or as you claim it became …the styles and rat race for any kind gashmius has manifested and grown into the most yeshivish of families whether it be a 500+ dollar carriage or cars that for some reason “have to be decent” ending up newer cars then any yeshiva man ten years ago would never have dreamed of.
talk about frum i cant because there is way too mush l”h.
to stop the hate you sound like you live on the hilltops in israel where “love for everyone” is their motto and what your saying sounds like a fairy tale but lmaase look in the rambam hilchos dais about the dangers of getting mushpa from people with bad influences.
health to your first question i said “open internet” … besides i was just speaking in their defense.
to your second thats exactly it …so instead of the people who believe their kids chinuch and future is at risk if those other kids come into the school just leaving the school they just say that “if you take in that kid i will take out mine”.
by the way i dont have any kids going to school at this time but i would certainly try to protect my kids chinuch, no, i do not agree with mr. rechnitz that there should be a open door policy for any kid of any type should be able to get into any schoool.
sterchele just making myself clear i am blaming the people who have open internet in their houses and on their phones ….your right not every one whos not in school has open internet etc. i was just trying to be dan lekaf zchus some of the people who dont want their kids with those kids
i posted something a few minutes ago that got taken down i said that we all had a kid growing up in school (or at least i did) that was “the kid in the class with the tv in his house or watched movies” or whatever it was and our parents tried to make sure we dont hang out with them and i would like to speak in defense of those that call up moisdos and say that if you take in that kid i will not send my kid their not saying if you take in that kid i will close down your school their saying “we will leave the school because we dont want our precious neshamois who we worked so hard and spent so many hours on the phone to avoid using the internet to pay credit cards bills etc.” they feel that they dont want their kids being in class with any kid just because his great great great great great grandfather was by har sinai