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ChortkovParticipant
Wolf – isn’t it your turn now to give us a rendition of your merits that earn you eternal damnation for letting your wife choose the date?
ChortkovParticipantFor us Yeshiva guys, Thursday night is Cholent time, ?? ??? ?????!!!
ChortkovParticipantQ. Did Yaackov actually split them into two groups? It was supposed to be part of the plan but we don’t see it ever carried out?
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PARSHAS VAYISHLACH:
Why did Yackov bow “7” times to Eisav? What is the significance of the number 7?
I once heard an amazing explanation: ???? has the numerical value of 182, which is 7 X 26 (????). This corresponds to seven levels of ????? he had. ???? has the numerical value of 208, which is 8 X 26. When he gave the ?????, he gave over 7 levels of ????? to Yackov (whatever that means), keeping one for himself. ??? came in and asked for ONE BROCHO – getting the remaining level which ???? originally intended on keeping for himself. Therefore – ??? is 376, which is 50 (???) X 7 [350], + 26 (1 X ????).
When ??? came to kill ????, ???? bowed 7 times, using his 7 powers of ????? to fight ???s 7 powers of ????, leaving ??? with only 1 level of ?????. [According to the ??? that ???s intentions when he hugged ???? were not pure, you have to say that his plan didn’t work]
(I might have heard this ??? the ???? ????, but I am not sure)
ChortkovParticipantDid he ever post anywhere besides for the funny shidduchim stories thread?
ChortkovParticipantI think something a little sharper should be composed for somebody who breached the Mesorah like this… WHAT exactly is a Yekke with a “Gartel”???
ChortkovParticipantI have a daughter… all applications in writing please; please allow 7-10 working days delivery. Terms and conditions apply.
ChortkovParticipantYekke, your last post is obviously the basic answer, especially since we can say that in Chutz La’aretz he didn’t do Kedushin, as the Ramban writes regarding all other Mitzvos.
I am not sure if you understood what i wrote fully; I don’t think i explained myself correctly.
Kiddushin is a Chiddush Hatorah – i don’t mean they didn’t KEEP that law, i mean that Kiddushin before Har Sinai doesn’t work (The Rambam says that before Matan Torah there was Nissuin only and no Kiddushin; Kiddushin can only happen after Matan Torah) – therefore the Avos were not going against the Torah at all by not doing Kiddushin
ChortkovParticipant????? ?????? ????
The Brisker Rav says that before ??? ???? even the ???? had no ???????, but just had ??????? (As seen in ???”? ??? ?’ ????? ??’ ?) — and ???”? in ?????? ?”? says that it isn’t ???? to have a ?????? ????, so the question doesn’t start.
(Although ???’ ?????? ? brings that Eliezer was ???? Rifka, and ??”? ?? ????? brings a few times ??????? by the ????).
???? ??? ???? ??? ??? ?”? ??? ?’ ???? ???
ChortkovParticipant??? ??????? ?”? says that we learn from ??? that one should not marry off his younger daughter before his older daughter.
The question is: Why do we learn from ??? because he gave ??? – We should learn from ????, because he wanted to marry ??? even though she was younger!?
The ???? says that ??? and ??? were twins – therefore ???? was ?????? because last week he says that the younger twin is older because the creation is first even though the birth is last; therefore even he agreed that one cannot marry before older siblings, ??? was older!!!
ChortkovParticipantQ: The ???? says that Leah could daven for her embryo to be changed from male into female only because it was within the first 40 days of pregnancy.
The question is – what happens to ?????? ???? ???? ????? ????? ?? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? — what happens when they get switched around now?
ChortkovParticipantThe ???? ???’ ????? ???”? ?? ?”? ??”? writes that the first ??????? was ????? but he remarried her. According to this, he asks, when he married her a second time, she was a ?????, and therefore should only have ???? ??? ???? as opposed to the normal 7 of a ?????. T (???? ?? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ??? ???”? ????? ?????? ???? ???”? ??”?)
The ???”? ?? ????? brings from ?”? that ???? was ???? for ???s trickery, and therefore had ??? that if it would be ??? he wanted to be ???? her. (Although that is contradictory to the ???? that he gave ?????? to ??? so that he shouldn’t trick – but it could be this was different – if he was anyways having the ????, he wouldn’t want it to be a ???? ???? and therefore wanted the ??????? (see HaLevi before))
ChortkovParticipantOfficialy, they are not civilians anymore, they are traitors accused of treason and spying.
ChortkovParticipantSo if you were on the back of a boat, and jumped, would you land on the boat or in the water?
ChortkovParticipantAt risk of sounding cliched, we must daven and do teshuva — And remember the words of the Meshech Chochma — before the war, he announced that the pattern of history is always whenever Klal Yisroel get to familiar with the goyim and feel too comfortable in Golus — He says ‘when Yidden think that Berlin is Yerushalayim…’ – Then the goyim suddenly get up and massacre us.
Here is a problem of people thinking that Jerusalem is Yerushalayim — when people believe that we are good with a Jewish state, and don’t need the geula, then Hashem sends us a message.
We must remember that we are in Golus and daven and hope for the Geula – ????? ?????? ???.
ChortkovParticipantI am confused – is ZeesKite a Mod or is she just pretending?
ChortkovParticipantI asked a friend where my chavrusa was. He told me: “He’s in the place where the king himself goes!”
November 10, 2012 11:17 pm at 11:17 pm in reply to: I want to share my feeling about somthing. Derech Eretz Kudmu L'Torah #1072996ChortkovParticipant?? ????? ???? ??? ???? ??????? ???? ??? ????? ???? ??? ???
ChortkovParticipantWhat is the Halacha about one’s sister? I never heard of any issur but somebody very choshuv told me that it is a big chiddush that one can LISTEN TO HIS SISTER SINGING and it is not poshut at all.
I know that Hilchos Yichud with a sister is an in-between stage (temporary, not permanently), but is Negia muttar?
ChortkovParticipantThe Gemoro points out from this weeks parsha that Hacnosas Orchim is more important than ???? ?????? — Since when is there a ???? to be ???? the shecinah? Of course ????? would have to stop and go do the ?????
I saw an answer that it was ?????/???, and there is a ???? of “??? ????? ???? ???? ?? ????? ?? ??? ?” and that was the ???? Avrohom was ?????.
ChortkovParticipantA) Rashi says once that Avrohom first got rid of the Avoda Zoro and then invited the guests in, whereas Lot wasn’t makpid and therefore let them in.
But later it says that Lot did that in order to save them from Sedom???
B) Did the story with the ?????? take place on ????? or ???? The ???? in ??? ???? ?”? says that it was on Succos, but Rashi says ???. Is this a ??????
ChortkovParticipantIt may have something to do with the tide — last night they said at least a foot of the water was added only cos of the tide nothing even to do with the storm.
ChortkovParticipantI don’t think i post often enough for people to get a real picture of me – and i don’t think that what i post lets on at all about my personality — It is just a story, joke, sarcastic comment or two every now and again. No trace of my emotions, my philosophies or me.
October 23, 2012 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm in reply to: Would You Marry A Divorcee? (If you were never previously married.) #900508ChortkovParticipantYehuda zvi cannot be a kohein if he is from aminodov! (See subtitle)
And don’t you think that this thread should be closed because it has potential to insult people here?
ChortkovParticipantHalevi – saw the answer – thanx. Just the answer from musser zoger didn’t answer the question.
ChortkovParticipantThe final verdict was for stealing but were also guilty of A”Z and G”A. No stira at all.
So without stealing the Flood would have come or wouldn’t have come?
ChortkovParticipant????? ??? ?? ????
(BTW — How often can one change the subject? Or is it not allowed [see Helfgot post above)
ChortkovParticipant?? ??? ???????? ?? ???? ?? ???? ???????? ?? ???
ChortkovParticipantAl tarbeh is not a halachah, merely advice – not that it means don’t follow it, but you shouldn’t base a psak on it. And again, does that refer to a conversation with a woman when her husband is away, or is next to her as well?
????? ???? – Normally when both husband and wife are present. No?
ChortkovParticipant2) There is an apparent ????? in ??”? – First ??”? says that “Any place where idolatry or adultery is found, ?????????? ?? ?????…”
THE NEXT ??”?: The final verdict was given only after stealing.
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ChortkovParticipantPARSHAS NOACH:
1) Technically this isn’t a ‘kasha on the parsha’, because i’m gonna include a tirutz, but here goes:
?? ?? ????? ????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ??…
Noach was from those of Little Faith, he sort-of-believed…
Q: ?? was a ???? ???? – why didn’t he go in? And what is ??? in the fact that he was ????? ??????
A: You put the commas wrong in ??”?. Read it like this:
??? ?? ????? ????? ??? ?????–> Noach believed even in those of little faith (i.e. that they would do ?????
????? ????? ???? ????? –> And therefore did not believe that the flood would come
And therefore didn’t enter the ???? until the waters pushed him in!!!
(????? ?????, I think)
ChortkovParticipantAnd when were the vibrations in the air (SOUND) created?
ChortkovParticipantDon’t mean to change the subject, but mermaids are brought in Rashi Bechoros 8. Iyin Shom.
ChortkovParticipantFirstly, why is this Artscroll more than any other publisher?
Secondly, the point of a biography of a ????? ??? or ???? is for a reader to take out the lessons, not for an interesting read. If there is nothing to learn, don’t put it in!
ChortkovParticipantOn Shabbos? ??? ??????? ??????…
ChortkovParticipantA) What is philosophical about the question?
B) Can somebody explain the ????? here? I fail to understand why it shouldn’t be a noise?
C)
Da mah Lehashiv L’apikores means that (even though you shouldn’t say k’fira) you should be able to disprove it. That means you may listen to it to legitimately disprove it. Therefore, censoring statements isn’t the solution. Truth is. Saying “No Kfira” isn’t productive.
I used to argue with missionaries a lot, and one of my Rebbes said: “Da mah lehashiv lapikores” is FOR YOU that you should know what to answer – it never says ‘ANSWER THE APIKORES’. If an Apikores comes to YOU and asks you something, you should have the answer in your heart so that you are not influenced.
D) ???? we can bring a ???? from ??? ???? ?”? – the Gemara is differentiating between when half a ????? is before the ??? ????, and when half the ????? took place in a cave [where those outside are not ????] – the ???? says ??? ??? ???? ????? ????? ??????? ???? — It is a place of ???? for those inside the cave .
Why does the ???? have to say ‘for those inside the cave’? That isn’t the point we are coming to answer; the point is that it is a ????? ?? ????, whereas before the Time of the ???? it isn’t a ????? ?? ????? (I think one of the ??????? asks the question)
According to this question, maybe we can answer: It is only a ???? ???? if somebody is there; if nobody is there, then it isn’t ‘HEARING THE SHOFAR’!!!
ChortkovParticipantOne ????? doesn’t make a ???? into a ???.
ChortkovParticipantAnd another quote from ???? quite relevant:
??? ?? ?? — ???? ?:?
If your ?? tells you not to go, then don’t go.
If your ?? tells you not to make your wedding mixed, then don’t make your wedding mixed.
Whether your ??? ??? leads you to disagree or not.
ChortkovParticipant?? ???? ???? ?? ????… ??? ????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ??? ????? ????? ????? ???? ????? ????? ?????.
(???? ?:?)
What more can I say???
ChortkovParticipantSee: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/mixed-seating
See also: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/weekly_torah.php?id=454
Aug 17 The Mechitza – Why How and When Part 10
Aug 16 The Mechitza – Why How and When Part 9
Aug 15 The Mechitza – Why How and When Part 8
Aug 14 The Mechitza – Why How and When Part 7
Aug 13 The Mechitza Why How and When Part 6
Aug 12 The Mechitza – Why How and When Part 5
Aug 11 The Mechitza – Why How and When Part 4
Aug 10 The Mechitza – Why How and When Part 3
Aug 09 The Mechitza – Why How and When Part 2
Aug 08 The Mechitza – Why How and When Part
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The Mechitza – Why How and When Part 7
Mixed Seating at Weddings
When men and women are seated together at a wedding the poskim say that the beracha of simcha b’miono is not recited at the sheva berochos because there is no simcha if men and women are sitting mixed.(38) The Levush (39) says if men and women see each other then no simcha b’miono is recited, but today since women are out on the streets more than in previous years we are not concerned that one will have thoughts about women. Many poskim say that the heter of the Levush does not apply in our day and age, since many women do not dress according to the way they are supposed to making people more susceptible to think about them. (40) Although years ago mixed seating may have been something which many people (even chareidim) did, this may not be done today and a mechitza should be made at every wedding.(41) Today, since the kallah is the only one brought into the men’s section at a wedding during sheva berochos, the beracha of simcha b’miono is recited. (42)
At a Chupah
Some poskim say that one should have a mechitza between men and women by a chupah.(43) Other poskim say the path separating the men and women (red carpet) is enough of a separation in this regard. The minhag seems to be like this second opinion.(44) Many Chassidim make the chupah outside; when the chupah is outside no mechitza is required. (45) (At a badeken and during the Smorgasbord a mechitza should be made, but it is not the custom). (46)
Footnotes
(38) Sefer Hapardes (Rashi) page 72:29, Sefer Chassidim 393:page 103, Yam Shel Shlomo Gittin 1:18, Kesubos 1:20, Bach E.H. 62, Be’er Heitiv E.H. 62:11, Bach Hachadoshes Y.D. 55:page 114, Bais Shmuel E.H. 62:11, Chasam Sofer C.M. 190:page 71, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 149:1, Orchos Tzaddikim simcha page 67, Pela Yoetz Chosson:page 249, Yeuhda Yaaleh 2:45:5, Ahavas Chesed 3:6:in footnote :page 286, Yabea Omer E.H 3:10:9, Natei Gavriel Nesuin 43:1, 94:3, Minhag Yisroel Torah Nesuin pages 210-212, Birchos Chasanim page 223:45:footnote 101, refer to Shulchan Aruch 529:4, Mishnah Berurah 22, Shar Ha’tzyion 21. (39) O.C. minhagim 36. (40) Lev Avraham 1:135, Vayivorech Dovid E.H. 1:121:page 12, Oz Nedberu 12:47. (41) Refer to Igros Moshe O.C. 1:39, 1:41, Be’er Moshe ibid, Teshuvos V’hanhugos 2:651, Natei Gavriel Nesuin 39:2, Journal Of Halacha and Contemporary Society 35:pages 34-35, Shearim Metzuyanim B’halacha 149:1. Some Chassidim have a wall between men and women (Yisroel Kedoshim pages 72-74). One should not let the women come to the men’s side of the hall (Ibid). It goes without saying that it is absolutely forbidden to have mixed dancing at a wedding (Refer to Ben Ish Chai Shoftim 1:18, Shiurei Beracha E.H. 21:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 152:13, Biur Halacha 339 “l’hukel,” Aruch Ha’shulchan 529:7, E.H. 65:3, Igros Moshe E.H. 1:97, 2:13, O.C. 2:30, 4:35, Minchas Yitzchok 3:109:1, 3:111, Be’er Moshe 4:147:31:page 236, Soveh Simchas 1:14:page 194, Nesuin K’hilchosom 13:26, Halichos Bas Yisroel 7:16, Yugel Yaakov pages 237-241:footnote 325, Yabea Omer 1:30:15). One is allowed to stay at a mixed wedding as long as he or she does not dance (Halichos Bas Yisroel 7:footnote 35). If a Yid wants to dance by a mixed wedding he should not take off his yarmulka (Igros Moshe Y.D. 2:33, see Yugel Yaakov page 232). One should not rent a hall to people if there will be mixed dancing (Igros Moshe Y.D. 1:72, O.C. 4:35). (42) Horav Yisroel Belsky Shlita, see Minhag Yisroel Torah Nisuin pages 210-212, Divrei Shalom 6:130. (43) Yabea Omer E.H. 3:10:9, Vayivorech Dovid E.H. 1:121, Be’er Moshe 4:147:31. (44) Refer to Srdei Eish 1:page 216:5, Asei Lecha Rav 3:40, 8:22, see Natei Gavriel Nesuin 18:1. (45) Vayivorech Dovid ibid:page 12. (46) Refer to Journal of Halacha and Contemporary Society 35:page 61. One should not go to the women’s section to call his wife, rather a young child should be sent (V’ein Lumo Michshal 5:page 272).
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ChortkovParticipantThere is a very long piece from the ??? ???? in ??? ?????, about mixed dancing. If anybody can find it, please write it here!
ChortkovParticipantA bochur once went to R’ Elya Lopian zt”l, asking him if for permission to miss Yeshiva and go to a wedding. It turned out that the wedding was mixed. The bochur said to R’ Elya: “I’ll sit on the side with a Sefer, and I won’t be ????”.
R’ Elya turned to him and shouted: “I am eighty years old, and blind in one eye, yet i walk in the street with my head lowered towards the ground so that I shouldn’t ?”? be ????. You are a healthy teenager – how can you possibly assure yourself that you will not be ?????”
I think there is an earlier source for this story: “?? ????? ????? ?? ??? ????”.
Even the ??? ?’ ????? was once walking with thousands of Talmidim, and the Satan appeared on a tree disguised as a beautiful woman. R’ Akiva actually began climbing the tree to do an ?????, before controlling himself. And this is in public, the ??? ?’ ????? and UP A TREE.
I personally don’t understand anybody who would put themselves into a situation of nisayon.
ChortkovParticipantMrs Katz: Give her a tissue and tell her ‘May this be the only thing you stick your nose into.”
ChortkovParticipantBeing a Yekke, unlike most other sects of Judaism, entails being born a Yekke. Other sects include transforming, changing ????? and deciding to do what you want. Not Yekkes.
Actually, that is true with all sectors of Judaism. Nothing unique to Yekkes.
Not Chassidim – I’m afraid if that would be true, Chassidus wouldn’t exist – isn’t it a modern invention – like within the last 300 years?
ChortkovParticipantAnd what does being Yekke entail?
Being a Yekke, unlike most other sects of Judaism, entails being born a Yekke. Other sects include transforming, changing ????? and deciding to do what you want. Not Yekkes.
Yekkes, as indicated above, are those of German descent. They have different minhagim, some of which include each adult male making his own kiddush at the Shabbos table, woman lighting only 2 candles – no adding more for children, boys wearing a tallis after Bar Mitzvah, waiting only 3 hours after meat until eating milk.
I am a Yekke, am related to many Yekkes, and affiliated with dozens of Yekkes, and I have yet to see a Yekkishe family where each adult male makes his own kiddush. I have heard of Chassidim doing that, but i have never seen a Yekke doing it.
Candles – Correct.
I wore a Tallis from when i was about nine – most yekkes wear a tallis already before their bar mitzvah. In my family, we start when we start going to Shul for Shacharis.
woman lighting only 2 candles – no adding more for children, …… Becuase candles based on Zochor veShomor, hence only 2 candles required; However Jekkes add something much more significant for their children, that Jekkes Bensch their children thrice each week, by Friday nite Kiddush, Shabbos morning Kiddush, and by Havdoloh (Of-course also by all Kiddush & Havdoloh on Yom Tov too); Benshing their children includes father, mother & grandparents benshing children & grandchildren, and and Benshing spouses of children & grandchildren.
My parents only bentch us once – Friday night. I haven’t heard of being bentched thrice. By the way, my Litvishe grandfather (maternal) also bentches us weekly, although it could be because he married a yekke.
They are a small community.
You can thank Mr Hitler for that.
ChortkovParticipantMaybe – FINALLY – the Moderators have learned that if there is nothing to write, write nothing!!
October 7, 2012 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm in reply to: Is eating in succah on Shabbos Breishis considered Bal Tosef? #977939ChortkovParticipant????? ?? ??? ????? ??? ????? ??? ?????. – ??? ???? ?? ???? ?. I believe that shabbos bereshis can be classified as ‘shelo bizmano’, and therefore one will be oiver if one sits on shabbos bereshis. Meaning that if one is sitting for shade then it is ok.
ChortkovParticipantIt really is beautiful. In Munks (The biggest Yekishe kehilla in the UK), they sing it on ??? ??? after Davening, and the children all run around the shul together. It is a bit of a ????? for Davening and my father never let me go when i was a child.
The Minhag started in Frankfurt where the children would make a train by putting their arms on each other’s shoulder and march around the shul singing Adon Olam, which is very beautiful.
ChortkovParticipantA friend of mine was going into a ?????, and an angry American stormed out of the room.
“Don’t go in there, he’s crazy!!” Said the American.
“Why?”
“I asked him for a blessing to have children, and he said ‘Bugger off, Bugger off, bugger off!'”
“No, no,” MY friend said: “He meant ?????, ?????, ?????!!!!”
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