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ChortkovParticipant
I read the anecdote of the Or Sameach in a biography about him. I checked it up and it doesnt’ bring a source.
ChortkovParticipantWhat is the name of his Sefer on Kiddushin?
ChortkovParticipantSomebody asked ?’ ????? ???????? that the world cannot exist without ????? ????, so he answered that ???? ????? ????.
But then it follows that one cannot keep the ?????
ChortkovParticipantWhat I don’t understand is: ??? ???? – Why does it start from Nacht of Christmas Eve? If it goes by the Jewish date, it should be nothing to do the 25th of December. If it goes by the Gregorian calendar, then it should be from 00:00 on the 25th, not from nightfall the night before?
ChortkovParticipantWhere does ????? originate if even G-d doesn’t know the future, according to this R’ Elazar Ashkenazi?
And what does it mean in Yigdal “???? ???? ??? ??????”?
ChortkovParticipantNo, but the ??? ??? himself was!
January 6, 2013 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm in reply to: Should a rebbi participate in a kumzitz with his talmidim? #917770ChortkovParticipantHow old is the Rebbe?
How old are the talmidim?
In what type of institution are we talking?
Where is the kumzitz?
When is the kumzitz?
(Can the Rebbe sing?)
ChortkovParticipantShychus – don’t talk about it online; talk to your Bekiyus chavrusa when you go out for a drink – he should know!
The ??? ??? said that a ???? is one with the articularcy of the ???? ??????, the depth of the ??????, encyclopeadic knowledge of the Vilna Gaon, the intelligence of the ????? and the thought processes of ?’ ????? ????.
(Interresting – he seems to be describing the ideal Rebbe more than the perfect ????)
ChortkovParticipantThey say in the name of the GRA that a lamdan is someone who sits and learns,and not someone who is smart and knows how to learn.He proves it from the word gazlan,if a person is smart and knows how to steal but doesn’t steal he isn’t called a gazlan until he actually does it.
But you also need to know how to learn, because you can’t learn properly without knowing how to. So the original argument of “who is considered a lamdan” will continue, just with the added condition that he DOES learn.
ChortkovParticipantloca, Chassidish Gatesheader, Sam2, benignuman and uneeq – Am i correct in summarising that you would listen to a song composed and sung by a non-Jew, with words not relating to Judaism at all as long as they are not in any way spiritually destructive?
And do you see any difference whatsoever between that and listening to a MBD or Avraham Fried song?
ChortkovParticipantThe Rishonim and later philosophic Acharonim discuss this. There are many answers given, ranging from that we don’t have Bechirah at all to that Hashem doesn’t know (or chooses not to know) the future because He gave us Bechirah, so part of that was limiting His knowledge of the future.
Which ?????? say that the ????? ?? ???? doesn’t know the future? And what exactly is ????? and where does it come from?
ChortkovParticipantI once saw a clever summary from R’ Arye Kaplan: A missioniary is like a telephone hotline. Push #1 for 1, Push #2 for 2. If there is nothing programmed for 9 and you push #9, they will just repeat the same thing over and over again. You’ve just got to think outside the box a bit!!
R’ Nissim from London once confronted the missionairy outside Yeshiva and spoke to him for about 1 1/2 hours – politely, and answering questions. He had a TNa”CH with him, and went through the Pesukim and proved the poor fellow wrong each time.
Once he pointed out – this is quite an important point – ???? does NOT neccesarily mean the Messiah – it means the Annointed One, and can refer to anyone from Ahron HaKohen to Dovid Hamelech. Anybody can be called the Annointed one of God without being the Messiah. He then proved this from many places, leaving most of the proofs the missionairy had worthless.
ChortkovParticipantI don’t understand the problem – I am on whatever team Poppa is!!
ChortkovParticipantAnother pointer – just ask any of them if they believe in the Old Testament.
Them: Of course.
You: So you keep Sabbath?
Them: I rest from work in Sabbath; I don’t go to my office. It doesn’t mention anywhere in the Bible anything about 39 prohibitions…
You: Hold on – do you smoke on Saturday?
Him: Yes, I do.
You: So what exactly happened to ?? ????? ?? ??? ????????? ???? ?????
…
ChortkovParticipant3) Is J from the House of David?
Him: Yes. See Matthew and Luke who bring down the lineage.
Me: Why is one of them 35 Generations and the other 18 (I don’t remember the numbers anymore, ???? ??)?
Him: Because one is his fathers side and the other is his mother.
Me: So I won’t ask you how he has a father if he is G-ds son; I think we’ll just leave off by noting that his mother must have been about 300 years older than his mather. Yep?
Him: Well… er – I dunno, i have to find this out.
Me: Okay.
ChortkovParticipant2) Let’s pretend for a minute that he IS the Messiah. Why should i believe that and what difference does it make to me?
Him: If you believe in him you will gain attonement for your sins; if you don’t you will be in eternal damnation.
Me: (After long conversation about Yom Kippur, korbonos and ?????? ???? ??????; ?? ???? ??? ????) — Pretending that believing in a Messiah will gain me atonement, and pretending it is him – if i believe ?????? ????? that the Messiah will come, will come any day now, and will atone for me, i won’t get the attonement because i don’t know who he is?
Him: Erm… Yes.
Me: So you are telling me, based on the scripture, that one has an obligation to know who the Messiah is.
Him: Well… no, i guess – you must believe that the Messiah will come.
Me: I do. Have a good day!
ChortkovParticipantQ: What is red and invisible?
A: No tomatoes.
ChortkovParticipantI used to meet a missionary a lot outside my yeshiva and he used to start talking to us. After we established that I do not believe in the New testament, he started showing me the Old Testament.
1) Me: where exactly does it say that a human death can atone for the generations sins?
Him: ?? ??? ??? ???? ?????
Me: that is talking about animal sacrifices not people.
Him: j took the place of sacrificial lambs.
Me: we all know that Mary had a little lamb, but that’s taking it a little far!
ChortkovParticipantA Bochur once went to the Steipler, confessing he was having problems with Gaavah.
The Steipler looked at him and burst out laughing. “You?” He laughed. “Problems with Gaavah?”
The Bochur got the message and never had problems again.
[If you are looking for serious advice, learn ?????? ?????? ??? ????? – it is quite short and packs the message home.]
ChortkovParticipantThe ???? ????? ?”? says that oil cannot be reused, and if the fire is extinguished it must be changed.
(See ???”? ????? ?”?, see also ???”?, ??”?)
yekke2 – Why shouldnt shemen ness be shemen zayis, and the mishna berura clearly hundels whether the mitzva is the hadlaka.
Shemen Nes does not come from olives; the oil used in the ???? needed to come from olives!!
The ???? ????? talks about ?????; I was talking about the ????? in the ??? ?????.
ChortkovParticipantI have heard of a program called ‘Logic’ – not free but actually worth $400; available free online.
In accordance with ????.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/copying-cds
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/sharing-music
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/copying-music-mutar-or-ossur
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/copying-various-forms-of-media
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/heteirim-for-copying-and-giving-out-music
ChortkovParticipant1)
BaalHaboo, one answers the other. The eighth day wasn’t a Ness and we only keep it because of Sfeika Deyoma. I actually found this in the Arvei Nachal after some time.
If that would be the case, we would only light 7 candles on the eighth night!
2)The famous ????? that it stayed lit for 8 days after they lit it on the first (brought by the ??? ???? and the ??? ????) is problematic, because after you put out the candle, the ???? says the wick and the oil must be changed, and you cannot reuse it.
(It will be ???? on the ?’ ???? if the ???? is to light the ????? or for it to be lit – and whether the ???? of lighting the ????? was the “?????” or part of the ???? ???? was to have a lit ????? by day (?’ ????? ????? ???? ????))
3) The famous ???? that ??? ?? isn’t ??? ??? – how can they light with that?
ChortkovParticipantShuychus – one of my good friends said the same – Are you who i think you are or is this a famous joke?
ChortkovParticipantI dunno if anybody here reads Harry Potter, but this may explain the Kings Cross chapter in Book 7.
ChortkovParticipantLearn how to compromise – If you want to paint the room white and she wants to paint it pink, YOU paint it PINK!
ChortkovParticipantDefinitely. My great-grand-mother is much smaller than she used to be!
ChortkovParticipantThe ???? ??? ????? ?”? says that ?? ???? ????? ???? ????? ?? ?? ??? ????? ?? ??? ????? ?????. This is why ??? didn’t announce Yehudahs partnership in the story.
????? ???? in ???? ????? that the ????? is because of ????????? ??????, which is ????? ??? ?????. The question is that ????? was now giving her the death sentence (wrongly), and therefore was a ???? – she had the rights at least to embarrass him pub lically!! (???? ???? ?”? ??’ ??”?)?
The ?????? ?? ?”? ??”? asks this by all ???? ?????? we should say you can kill them ???? ????? (See ????? ?? ??? ? ?? ? who discuses this at length)
Even though ?????s role here finished after he sentenced her, the ???? ?? ??? is a ???? – according to the ??? in ?”? ?”? that ?? ???? ???? ????? when the ???? is a ????, then ????? is still a ?????
Even according to ??? ?”? ?”? that ??? ???? ???? ????? even when the ???? is a ????, there is a ??? of ???? even by a ???? ????? (See ???? ?????? ?? ?”? ??? ? and ???? ??? ?? ? ???”? and the ?????? above), and therefore ????? is causing her to be killed?
However – the ???? ??? says that this ???? of ???? ????? only applies by a Jew, because in a every ???? there are two parts: A) The ???? ???? of the ???? and B) ???? ????? (Saving the victim. This ??? of ???? ????? is only in the saving of the victim, not as a ???? ???? on the ????, and by a ?? ?? the ???? isn’t so worried about ????.
According to this, one can answer with the ??? of the ???? ????? ???? ? ?’? – where proves that ??? held like those that they were all ??? ?? before ??? ???? (whereas ????? said they had ???? ?????), and therefore she didn’t have this ???? of ???? by ????.
However, if they were ??? ??, the ???? ????? ?????? ?? ?”? says that every ??? has ?????? to another ???, and will also have the ???? of ?? ???? ???? ????? – and therefore we don’t need to come onto the ??? of ????!!
(See ???? ?????? ?? ?”? ???”? ????? ?”? ???? ???? ?????? ?”? ?”? ?”? ??”? ??”? ??”?; See also ????? ?”? ??”? and ????? ???? ??”?)
The ???? ????? asks ?? ??”? ??”? – according to those who hold that ?? ???? ???”? by ????, why does the ???? ??? ??? need to go to ???? if he kills by mistake [when he is ????? ????? ???] – it should be the ??? ??? because of ??????? *
The ??? ???? brings from ?’ ????? ?????? that once ??? ??? have paskened, they are no longer involved, and anybody can carry out the ????? or the ????, and therefore the ???? ??? ??? is not ?????? ?????? – it would come out that ????? is only a ???? ???? which is ???? by a ?? ??.
* I don’t understand why the ???? is a ???? when he is ????? ????? ???, because he is finished his job, so the ????s ???? doesn’t really start.
(???? ?????? taken from ????? ????? ??”? by ?’ ????? ??????)
ChortkovParticipanttea party –
carers LTD
Dark Tapestry
The movement
The gordion knot
The link
none of these are non-fiction. I am not sure about the others.
ChortkovParticipantThe ???”? himself actually argues, but brings the ???? of the ??????, which the ??”? holds ?????.
(???? ?????? ?”? ?”?… ?”? ????? ?????? ?’ ?”?)
ChortkovParticipantKozov – Thanks alot! I had the same answer about the fact that somebody can stop the other from learning and let the ???? ???? go on from there.
And – I also have no idea what the ???? ???? is and how it works!
ChortkovParticipantI just searched on Hebrewbooks.org for some ???? ?????? about ????? ?????, and i found:
?????? ??? ????? ? — ?, ???? ???? ?? ? ??.
ChortkovParticipantSome ???? ?????? i didn’t write before:
1) About ????? ?? there is a ???? ??? ?”?, where the Gemoro speaks about if after ????? ????? we will all be ???, and also discusses the ?? ??????? who was revived after death – and the ???? answers that the issue will be resolved when ???? comes with ??? ?????.
2) The ???”? i quoted is in ??? ?’ ??’ ?”? ??? ?, where he is ????? a ????”? ??? ?”? says that after a man is revived, he has no ????? anymore.
3) The ???? ???? ??”? ?? ?”? ??”? speaks about ???? ???? and ????? ?????, and he concludes that the ????? finishes. (See ??????? ????? ?”?). See also ??? ????? ????? ? where ?’ ???? was killed and then revived about the ???? ????? ?? after ????? ?????.
(The ??? ???? ?”? ?? ? ???”? pushes away the proofs of the ???? ????)
— See also ??”? ????? ??”? ????? ?”? ????? ??????? ??’ ??”? ??”? ????? ??????? ????? ??? ?”? ??????? ??? ?.
4) About the ???? ???? – according to the ????? that before ??? ???? they were ??? ??, it could be that by a ?? ?? has no ???? ???? ????, as is the ???? of the ??? ????? ??????? ?”?, (see ???? ????? ?”? ??? ? who argues) – and they only became Jews after ??? ????.
5) The ??? ???? ???? ?”? ??”? says that although there should have been a need for new marriages, ? specifically said after ??? ???? the extra verse: ??? ??? ???????, which the ???? darshens to mean ???? with their wives. According to him, we don’t need our ?????, because there was a special exception to the rule.
(See ????”? ???? ?)
ChortkovParticipantBy ??? ????, the entire Jewish Nation died by every Commandment they heard from ?. There is a big question posed by the ???????:
1) Why were all the marriages in ??? ????? not finished from the when they died, like ???? ???? is always the end of a marriage? (????? ????? shouldn’t matter; the death of a husband is what finishes off the marriage. (See ???? ??????? ??? ? i think ?? ?”?) This is itself a huge issue, ???? ??? ?????)?
2) Why were they not all ??? ?? (Again – a big debate whether the ???? of ?? is that something DEAD is ???? or that the death creates a ???? that will not leave until some form of ???? is done, regardless of whether the object is still in the form of death or life; I think there is a ?’ ???? ????????? about this, and a ?’ ????? ???? ???????, but I’m not sure exactly where)?
3) According to those ????? (I will ??? ??? quote sources for all this later) that after ???? one is not ?????? ?????? anymore [even if one springs back to life], why where they ?????? in ?????? (Although one can answer that the ????? there only came after their rebirth, because they were at ??? ????)
Using this ????, one can answer that they didn’t enter the third final ‘DEATH’; rather their state of Life ended. (And ????? ??, ???? ???? and ???? ?????? are all ???? on full death).
ChortkovParticipantJust my hapence — I can’t say I understand it; as I wrote earlier, what we see as death is straight from “life” as we know it into “death” as we know it. Because this happens, we cannot understand or even comprehend a concept of anything different – of an in-between stage where one is neither dead nor alive. This doesn’t mean on a life-support machine in a coma, nor does it mean clinically dead. It is a concept we cannot understand because we have never seen anything like it before.
ChortkovParticipantThe ???? says in ????? that a ??? ???? written by a ??? (apikores) needs to be burnt. A ??? ???? written by an ???? ?????? must also be burnt.
(I don’t know if all non-jews nowadays come under the category of ???”?, although in China there may be more room for doubt, but they definitely come under the category of ?????.)
ChortkovParticipantThe ???”? is in ???? ?????? ?”? ?”?. (See also ??”? ???? ????? ??? ?’ ??? ??? ???? ?????)
The Rogotchover is in ???? ???? ?? ????? ?”? ??’ ?, (See proof brought there from ????? ??”?; see also ???? ??? ??”? ??’ ??”?).
The Ramban ????? ??”? says that there are three stages in ????: A) ????? ???? ??, B) ????? ???? and C) ??? ??? ????.
ChortkovParticipantIt is possible that one can answer:
The Rambam in Moreh Nevuchim brings that just like Hashem constantly ‘pumps’ life in to each of us, and if C”V He would stop for an instant, we would no longer live, so to He pumps Death into all those dead.
The Rogatchover writes from there that Death is not just the abscence of Life; we always SEE dead people who die staight after Life, yet there is also a concept of somebody who is ??? ???? ?? ??? ?? ???? ????? ???? ?? — Gone from the state of alive but not yet entered the state of death.
(He says that all ????? ????? performed by the ?????? were people who were not yet DEAD but rather simply NOT ALIVE.)
He brings a proof from the fact that Hashem opens on Rosh Hashono the Book of Life and the Book of Death. Why is this neccesary? Simply write the names of those destined to live in the Book of Life, and the others would simply not be included?
We see from here that besides for life, there is a new creation called Death.
I have no idea if this bears any semblance to truth, but possibly when I kill a person, i can take him out of the LIFE stage, but
the ???? ???? is what brings him into the Death stage.
(For more proofs to the Rogitchovers chiddush, see the Ramban by ???? ???? ???, the ???”? about ???? and ??? ?????? and the Gemoros which speak about ??? ???? – i hope to follow with some more Mareh Mekomos)
ChortkovParticipantnem621 – I am not ?? ????? suggesting anything contradictary to what you said — EVERYTHING that happens only happens with the will of Hashem, and everything is part of the Heavenly plan and full of ????? ?????, and I am only a pawn in HKB”Hs plan.
In fact, the ???? ?????? ? says that HKBH arranges the different types of deaths (by bandits, animals, strangling, falling of a roof, etc) based on the Four types of death which one can be punished with by the Jewish Court of Law.
My question was in a case where I do go kill him, am I killing him myself or am i just the robot performing the death but the Malach Hamoves is actually taking the life?
ChortkovParticipantwhat really got me upset though is too see these groups publicly burning the Israeli flag and even more so in front of the Ponevich yeshiva. I think this is a huge Chillul Hashem.
The Chillul Hashem is that Jews were burning a flag. The fact that is was an Israeli flag is no more of a Chillul Hashem than if it was an American flag or a British flag.
People must understand that ‘Jews’ and ‘Israel’ are not intertwined and are not synonymous with each other. Nobody is anti-Isreal more than anti-USA; they are against the fact that there is a “Jewish” state. Satmar would be delighted is Israel offered their country up as a state of America. It is the fact that it is shown off as Jewish, the fact that the secular world find it so difficult to distinguish between Jewish and Israeli, that causes such a Chillul Hashem.
I see no reason why Netanyahu and his government are any worse than Obama. But there is room to discuss whether a ‘Jewish state’ is permitted at all [which is a massive ?????? of ??????, not for us to decide], and if it makes it worse that this ‘Jewish state’ is run by a secular government.
What I don’t understand is: To those who hold that it is wrong and forbidden to take back the State of Israel by force (and i am not discussing whether this is called a State of Israel or whether this was called Force) – are you not crying over spilled milk? Since 1948, there has been a recognized State of Israel. Now Israel is being surrounded by enemies who seem to be warning us of the imminent arrival of Moshiach ????? ?????? ??? – what do you propose Israel does — lay down weapons and give the reins to Ahmadinejad?
What do you propose Israel should do to conform with Halocho – is there any solution that is constructive?
ChortkovParticipantWhat’s red and fluffy?
Red fluff
ChortkovParticipantThe ???? ???? tells us of the Tannah who was asked to go teach Torah to a city of ?? ??????, and he answered that he will always stay in a ???? ????…
There it was an option of his own Torah Shtieging or being Mekarev others.
??? ???? ????? ????!!!
ChortkovParticipantKollel: ????? ?? ???? ?????
Kiruv: The broom that sweeps the floor gets dirty.
Which is better option?
ChortkovParticipantCarlebach story:
Let me tell you a story, my holy brothers and sisters… Once upon a time… i was walking in the desert. So thirsty, so hot; no water to drink.
I davened to the Holy One above, and He sent me a camel. [Interlude: Ko Omar… ???? ???? ?????…]
So now I was walking with the camel, and i saw – we saw – a man standing, so holy, so pure – holding out some water.
I ran towards him, i could see the kedusha on his face… and i fell into the pit, with the camel on top of me…
[Guitar strumms…]
????? ??’ ?? ??? ???…
ChortkovParticipantWhy did the American chicken cross the road?
The light was red.
Why did the Canadian chicken cross the road?
It saw the American chicken do it.
Why did it only cross halfway?
1)It didn’t want to take sides
2)it wanted to lay it on the line
Why did the Polish chicken cross the road?
It didn’t see the truck.
Why did the monkey cross the road?
He saw the chicken do it.
Why didn’t the rooster cross the road?
It was a chicken.
ChortkovParticipantThere was a Chassidishe in shul who never said Tachanun. Looking for a heter, some guys asked him why. He said:
“Make a Kal VeChomer – If there is yortzheit we don’t say Tachanun, Kol sheken when there is nisht tzait we don’t need to say Tachanun!!!”
ChortkovParticipantWhat’s grey and can’t climb trees?
A car park.
What’s green and if it falls out of a tree will kill you?
A snooker table.
What’s black, white and red all over?
A yeshiva bochur on a date.
ChortkovParticipantThe normal way is to wear it down; Yeshiva bochurim [students] often wear it bent up and back – it is more comfortable and don’t carish…
ChortkovParticipant??? ???!!!
ChortkovParticipantHow does ??”? know that it was ???? who was missing? The ???? says ?”? ??????; how does ??”? know who it was?
The ????”? says that ???? is the only one who makes sense, whereas the others have no explanation, so ??”? knew it was her.
There is a ????? that the ??? ????? was in the portion of ??? ??????, because he is the only who didn’t bow to ???. If it was another brother missing, then the ????”? could be in his portion. It follows, therefore, that it was ???? who was missing.
One can ask – maybe it was ??? who was missing, and he didn’t get the ????”? because ??? ??? didn’t get a ???? in ??”??
The ???? answers that the ?????? hint to ???? — using the standard laws of grammar, when one refers to plural of both men and women, one talks in masculine, unless the women are more ????. However, if there is only one woman and many men, even if the woman is ????, we use a masculine form.
When the maidservants came forward, the ???? says ???????? – plural feminine. When ??? came, however, it says ??????? – plural masculine. The reason is because ??? was the only woman — and where was ????? This is ??”?s proof that it was her who was missing more than any of her brothers.
ChortkovParticipantWhy was ???? scared to kill ??? (Rashi says that ???? refers to killing others) — there is a ??? of ??? ????? ???? ?????, that if one comes to kill you, can kill him first?
One cannot answer that one is only allowed to kill a ???? if it is impossible to save him through disabling him somehow [and therefore ???? was scared that he would kill even if he wouldn’t need to], because the ???? and the ???”? hold that this law applies only to a bystander; the victim himself is permitted to kill the ???? even if it is possible through other means to save himself?
There are those who answer that ??? came to kill ????s family, not ???? himself (because ??? promised not to kill ???? while ???? was still alive), and therefore he didn’t have the ???? of killing; he was considered like a bystander, and therefore was not permitted to kill without trying to disable first.
(There are those who explain this ??? of the ???? because he is ???? (confused, not thinking straight), which comes under the category of ????. I don’t understand this, because the ???? of ???? does not apply to the 3 Cardinal Sins of ????? ???, ????? ???? ?????? ?????, which are ????? ??? ?????? One could answer that the ???? does not create a ???? to kill, but rather changes the circumstances so that it isn’t ???? ?????? ???? ??????.)
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