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On the Coffee Room Homepage, in the Table of Threads, right at the top there is a link stating “Add New”. Just click there.

But let me give you a friendly warning – if your first threads are about controversial topics, you will be labelled as a troll. So best leave it pareve for a bit before warming the world up!

When my father [not at all Chassidish; see my username!] was a bachur, he was at a very good friends [also not Chassidish, but “Chassidish inclined”] Chasuna, and the Bobover Rebbe zt”l (R’ Shloime) was dancing Mitzvah Tanz, and my father and some friends were standing on chairs and watching the Rebbe.

R’ Matisyahu Solamon shlit”a was at the Chasuna, and he walked over and tapped my father and said to him “Is there anything to see?” And smiled. My father got off his chair.

I have a Litvishe grandfather who refused to dance Mitzva Tanz by his own sons Chasuna, even though there was a Mitzva Tanz because the Kallas side insisted. My Grandfather just arranged with the badchan not to call him up.

Sfashkenaz by Abie Rotenberg (one of the Journeys albulms, I think)

What is the definition of a ‘nice gadol story’? A story involving a miracle performed by a Gadol? A story showing the warmth and exceptional character of the Gadol? There are many different types of Gedolim stories!

Hey; just thinking about retainers and Kashrus — Why if I eat a solid hot steak does my retainer not become meaty? I should not be allowed to have a coffee, even six hours later!

If a Goy puts of Tefillin he is Chayav Misah?

And If a Goy has Milah, he definitely is NOT mechuyav misah!

Halevi – Is that story from a reliable source? It is strange that Reb Yaakov would throw anything down a sewer, even if it has no Kedusha. Especially if somebody juat handed it to him! Sounds a bit wierd.

Anyways, is this even if there are ?????? in the Sefer? ????? ????

Look at the other side of the coin – what can possibly be wrong with learning an extra ten minutes before you go to work?

shebbesonian – You are probably right; I wasn’t arguing about the Hiddur element, I was just commenting on his hagdoro of Tashbisu

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The Gemara Kesuvos already gave the answer to all such moral dilemmas:–

???? ??? ???? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ?? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ??? ?? ??. V’dok. (??? ????? from R’ Shlomo Zalman zt”l before!)

Which means: The Gemara brings a story about R’ Acha who used to pick up Kallas and dance with her on his shoulders [which is obviously pritzus in our circles]. The Rabbanan asked him if they could do the same, to which he answered “If she is compared to you like a plank of wood , then go ahead. If not, then don’t!”

The same pretty much sums up all such dilemmas. If you feel, unlike most normal adolescent males, that your casual contact with women does not cause impure thoughts, then it is the most decent thing to do to greet (unless of course SHE will feel uncomfortable, which is sort of counterproductive). However, the rest of us humans should not.

(Dunno if I am generalizing too much or if its just me being honest!)

I used to be schizophrenic, but now we’re okay.

Denouncing non-halachic conversions for marriage purpose is not Loshon Horo, because they are (pashtus) goyim, and therefore not part of ‘amisecho’. (Depending on circumstances, may lead to Loshon Horo about the other spouse, who IS jewish!)

If you want more help about why your post was deleted, post it here and I’ll explain it to you!

yekke: there are some who believe that everyone in the world should be learning and not working. you think they are wrong but you need to be considerate and tolerant of this view even if you disagree and think its wrong.

There is nobody who says that somebody who has no bread to put on the table should still learn except for R’ Shimon Bar Yochai, about whom the gemoro says that “rov” of us are not on the Madreiga to follow. Anybody who can learn is absolutely ?????? to.

I don’t think ‘tolerant’ is the right term. Something which is wrong is wrong, and there is no such thing as accepting wrong shittas. You are correct – as I pointed out before – that a poster being wrong does not give an allowance to another poster to be aggressive, antagonistic or rude, nor for it to develop into a personal feud. But it does give one an allowance – definitely on a blog like this – for one to state his own opinion and perhaps to debate it. In ‘real life’, often it is more prudent to keep one’s opinion to oneself, for it could be counterproductive to offer one’s own opinion of things. But on a blog like this, where posts are put on simply so that other people should see them, it is only right to point out if something is wrong. Again, in a polite and torahdike fashion, of course.

For one guy, the right thing is for him to be in kollel, and for another guy, the right thing for him is to get a job. Some fathers would come into the women’s section to dance, some fathers certaintly wont. Everyone can do what they deem is right, and let everyone else do what they want.

I’m sorry, but I do not agree with your approach. Life is not about ‘do what you like’ and ‘live and let live’. There is definitely a RIGHT and a WRONG, and nothing in between. Everything in life – absolutely everything – is either ???? ?’ or the opposite. There can be different shittas about whether something is right or wrong, but nothing is neither RIGHT nor WRONG. If one feels something is wrong, there is a ???? to be ????? the wrongdoer.

Of course, it is true that some people should be going to kollel and others do not have to – somebody who has no ????? and is part of the “???” of R’ Shimon bar Yochai/R’ Yishmoel – of course is not ????? to sit and learn, but should be ????? to earn for his family. Somebody who has hit the millions, and can afford to live comfortably and still learn all day is ?????? to invest his energies into ????? ?. There is no different ‘approaches’ about life; different people are given different oppurtunities by HKB”H. It most definitely is NOT a free for all, do what you like.

when posters “knock” someone else’s point of view, this only leads to sinas chinam and chillul Hashem.

This is a good point. Even if the first thing you said is not necessarily correct, and there is something wrong, there is no reason to be nasty about it. One can disagree firmly yet politely. There is no reason to turn personal when disagreeing about something.

However, there is also the other side of the coin – readers should understand that discussions get heated, and things that are not meant are said. [Normal, sane, frum] People do not mean to get personal, but sometimes in the heat of action things slip out. Readers should not be insulted, but should take things with a pinch of salt.

Also, a lot of posters here apparently have not much of a sense of humour, and cannot tell when a poster who on face value seems to be saying something ridiculously insulting and unreasonable, but is really just trying to be funny by writing something cynical or something so obviously controversial they are probably being funny (Poppa ?????) – some people have to learn not to take everything seeriously.

Dayan Lopian zt”l used to say – “It is easier to be machmir than it is to know what you are talking about”, vdo”k.

The Chazon Ish would say over a story about a guy who walked around with glasses that had no lenses. When people would question him, he would say “Well, it can’t hurt.” He was right, it couldn’t hurt. But it didnt help a stitch either. The Chazon Ish said this about many Chumros.

but is it right to promote spending tons of money on some fancy vacation for yom tov where people will be eating non stop when there are families who struggle to pay tuition and put food on the table

Sorry sir, but I think you are a troll. If your problem with the ads are something to do with the Shidduch crisis, then why are you talking now about families who cannot afford? You are not at all talking about the double standard, nor are you complaining about people splashing out where others cannot, you are just trolling.

Rashi says that ?? ????? ????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ?? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ???? – Noach was from those of lesser Emunah, he believed yet he didn’t believe, and he didn’t go into the Teivah until the waters pushed him in.

It sounds very strange that a ???? like ?? wasn’t a proper ????? ??’ – was not ?? ??? ???? ????????? The Chanukas HaTorah (I think) offers a wonderful ??? (It probably is not what ??? means, but it is a nice ??? anyway) – he says that we read ??? wrong.

?? ????? ????? ??? ????? – Noach believed in those of lesser emunah that they would do ?????, and therefore ????? ????? ???? ????? – he didn’t believe that the ???? would come {because it would be unnecesary} – and ?? ?? ?? ????? until the waters pushed him in, and he saw that it was too late for them to do ?????.

147 – <open sarcasm>Terrible. I feel really bad for the Gabbai of Shul where R’ Ovadia shlit”a davens… his job must be so much harder now.</end sarcasm>{drip… drip…}

147 – Is it your business to constantly provide useless information which has something to do with one of the keywords in the title? I don’t think ANYbody here wanted to know the distance between London and the Eifel Tower, or what language the announcements are. I am surprised you didn’t feel the need to slip in a comment about how many French people there are who support Zionism! Maybe leave off a bit?

There is what to learn from many people whose externals could possibly put one of in reality from involving oneself with them – be it racial differences, be it gender differences, be it hassidic/modernorthodox/litvish/sephardic/yemenite/conservative/yekkish/mixedup. (Of course I cannnot know who is what, but we pick up things here and there – from the sort of sefarim/rabbanim people quote, from the things they say etc)

But the reality is, that there is no gravity, there is no nature. There is just Hashem. Every time that apple falls it is because Hashem made it happen. And that why once in a while gravity doesn’t work and you have crias yam suf. Because Hashem is the one doing it. Now Hashem keeps things going in a natural way so we could be tested in either believing in nature or Him.

My Rebbi once told me that there is a difference beteen Hashgacha Pratis and Klallis – Hashgacha Pratis is where HKB”H arranges every detail Personally – however, there is something called Hashgacha Klallis, a.k.a Nature, where HKB”H placed a koach in the briah to continue in a natural form.

yekke2 the answer to a)the difference is that you’re on it and now you took part in something

So according to you, if a goy was following you around with a pen writing down everything you do, you would have to freeze until he stopped?!

Sam – I know that you are only ???? by Niskaven Lhatiach becaus of Neheneh, I was just bringing a raya that such a thing is called “Misasek”.

I am not sure where you are arguing with me here. I also said that it is ????? and therefore you would be ????. I said as well that ????? is where you have no intention to perform the action that you did. What did you say that disagrees with anything I said?

My point was – even if ????? ITSELF will not ??? you (

see Harotzehbilumshmo’s post before), you would be ???? because to be ???? on a derabanan one would have to be ???? (as explains the ???? ????? pshat in the ??????).