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OP: this is a generational issue not limited to frum people. There are a million and one excuses not to exercise, one could even argue it is harder on young – frum – couples, with all the little kiddies running around, diets are also an issue, shabbos – b”h many simchas – makes it more challenging – harder access gyms, which may be a good thing. Gyms are hard pressed to make money, it is a very hard business model. Ask any gym, their cash cow is the member who signs up and is forced into 3 years but shows up twice and is stuck in a contract (30 a month, a gym would need 1500 – 2000 members to be able to pay rent in the heart of flatbush plus staff but the facility can’t handle that many people)- I would hope frum people are smart enough to avoid such contracts so yeah its a tough sell and a tough business so no surprises that it failed.
I would love to see a kosher version of P90X or the like anyone wanna film it with me? (i’ve done it im a fan)
I live in BR, also work in NY
Think that what was said is pretty much accurate.
And I am assuming the 4 min drive to the local kosher supermarket comment was sarcasm 😉
Re: YWN-Moderator and the 3 foot snow storm, that was pretty wild. The city is pretty good with the plowing matziv, and we do get more accumulation than NYC even a little more than Monsey, usually.
@unknown123 if you have specific questions feel free to ask either here or you can email contact info removed
@soliek I am pretty sure you can divide by 0 , X/0= the limit of X/Y as Y approaches 0 to +/- infinity
You can try http://shullists.com (shulLists)
Re striving:
re internet: I did not see this question answered well. I know that they yeshiva is against it at all costs (almost) There was a huge vaad about it and they Yeshiva is very strongly against guys having internet (I dont have it and i’m a balla baas, even more so a computer programmer lol) Anyways like every rule you’ll find exceptions and those who just flatly don’t listen. But if you ask any rebbi they will strongly discourage it
Movies: Each guy is different like every other place I personally watch alot of caillou (new cartoon fad for toddlers lol kidz)
L613: If your looking for a guy who will learn for 10 years thats true everywhere they overhead costs! no different in CC, CC has it’s fair share of “learner earners” if that’s what your looking into but I understand your quagmire you want the learner but don’t wanna be the earner lol
Re: Yanky R.
“They focused a lot there on what’s known as Gadlus HaAdam, the greatness of man, and one of the reasons was because in those days Yeshiva guys were considered lowly and it was hard to feel proud to be one. So they made them dress a little spiffy amongst other things, to boost their morale and self-image. The CC people sort of carried that over, and to them, it manifests in their wearing colored shirts. If you ask me, it doesn’t accomplish anything nowadays and just serves to make CC different in the eyes of the rest of the Yeshiva world. I am nobody to tell them what to do, but I dont see what they’re gaining.”
Firstly: Gadlus haAdam has nothing to do with low self esteem! or how yeshiva guys are perceived, The point of focusing on Gadlos Haadam is to help one realize he is a Tzelem Elokim and that requires a way to behave, dress, talk etc….
Nextly: CC never dresses to look “spiffy”, CC dresses to look appropriate and respectable, hence the ties. White shirts are NOT the common place in the “real world” and never has been, it is for “dressy” occasions (weddings, special occasions etc..)
Netxter: R’ Lebowitz Zt”l expressed concern about guys dressing “yeshivish” he felt a bachur would empasize the chitzonis when he should be more focused on what counts the penimis, middus, mussar etc…. not what shpitzy shirt your wearing or is that a perry ellis or Armani, and whether the shirt is starched enough, and whether to break the pocket or not (if you got the latter then you know what I mean by focusing on the wrong things!), that is why R’ Lebowitz felt better not to dress Yeshivish and fall in the trap and focus more on mussar and the rest of the “Yeshivish velt” be darned!
Almost Lastly: It was never, and I hope it never will be, been the focus of CC to “fit in” the yeshiva feels strongly on what buchrim need to focus and worry about, and feel very confident and well grounded with a solid Messorah, there is no messorah to worry about narishkait, such as white shirts vs blue shirts vs no ties etc….. It is narishkait and CC feels no need to push it just to “fit in” buchrim do not need a “dress code” so they can associate with anything, maybe we should wear bekashurs and grow payes so we can even more associate ourselves with yiddishkait etc…
Lastly: The “Levhush” is only a big deal because it is made to be one
Oh boy I can’t resist, though I should.
WhyNotME: how can you qualify “if I ask people from other yeshivas they all say that other yeshivas can in fact learn better then CC”. What does that even mean?? Kuli alma lo pligi CC has a derech halimud which is unique, in todays day and age. Theres is a huge emphasis on iyun and CC’s type of iyun. How can you compare to those who emphasize covering more blatt or a different understanding of iyun (ailu vailu)? Who is one to decide what is better let alone other yeshiva guys who obviously have a nigeya because that is the way they learn.
You have to ask yourself (push your buttons 😉 as to what works better for you. You are not going to get CC style iyun anywhere else.
In terms of R’ Cohen and it is hard to explain what he meant w/o hearing what he said in it’s entirety. But I have a feeling he was talking to YOU, and for you alone. Given your background and circumstances I assume his message was you just came from co-ed and are somewhat fragile yes you may feel very energized but your foundation as merely a teenager can’t be very strong especially given your circumstances. Hence the therefor don’t go bouncing between yeshivas, get settled irrelevant how you ended up where you are but lemaysa your in a CC branch and need stability! You need to be grounded. You are at risk of floating between yeshivas, you like this flavor you don’t like that one etc… CC is not alone, but there are a limited number of Yeshivas that do the whole “cycle” HS, BM, Kollel etc..A lot of yeshivas have HS and a couple years of BM then off to E”Y for a couple years then head to Lakewood. Running that system runs the risk of never getting a clear hadracha, you can end up with a chulent of different hashkofos and even worse may end up without a clear Rebbi muvhak to help you through life, most certainly the start of it (dating, marriage etc..). To me that is a clear cut advantage the system CC has and I am sure other yeshivas out there do this as well but this is not the “main stream” “mehalach” And since you are in such a system, and given your background you seem like you can use some stability. So stay put and enjoy the ride 🙂
To all the CC guys trying to push the “We’re the best and only yeshiva that can learn or learn mussar yada yada yada” Your embarrassing the rest of us. It is beyond ludicrous, and I will not enumerate on all the points, but talk like this is so distasteful, and more importantly WRONG! Ailu VAily Divray elokim chaim. And your talk just distances Achdus not encourages it, makes CC like a cult as I was saying it’s ridiculous!
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This article looks familiar, oh wait that is because I wrote it.
After reading many of these comments I see that the main point failed to come across to some people.
Consulting people you trust for opinions is a great idea but
advice is only that – no Rabbi (or parent or friend or teacher) should tell you who or who not to marry (unless their reasons are halacha/hashkafa based). No Rabbi/Parent/Friend/Teacher will be living in your marriage for you – thats YOU.
I would take the exact opposite opinion, the only person who does NOT know who the right person to marry, may very well be YOU! considering negiyas, pressures, silly hakpadas that make no sense. I heard a story where a guy wanted to call it all off because when he asked the girl what animal she would be like she said a horse, and he decided that a horse is too masculine, laugh, think that the guy is from a different planet, but he is not alone, “normal” people can make ridiculous decisions have the most out-there-I-Can’t-believe-that’s-what-he-is-looking-for shtussim, another guy only wanted a girl with wavy hair! yes if you asked daas torah they would kindly tell you to see a shrink before entering shidduchim again, but the issue lies when people don’t ask, and they think they know what they want when they can’t be further from the truth. And who are you getting advice from your best friend who also happens to be in her late twenties not married?. Don’t short change Daas Torah, it must dictate EVERY aspect of your life. I heard about Rav Henoch Lebowitz ZT”L that he once came to shiur shaking his head I told him not to, why didn’t he listen?” his talmidim asked what hes was referring to, and he said that he warned a baal habos that chazal says a third of your money in karka a third in liquid, (and i forgot the other third, Rav Lebowitz didnt i cant seem to recall it I’m sure someone will let me know :-)) and he didn’t listen and he lost it all! There is nothing we should shy down from asking Daas Torah about, and kal vchomer such a critical topic as is shiduchim!