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Moderator-80:
Which suggests a question… What do Coffee Room trolls live under?
Moderator-80:
More specifically, you slowly drag the bait, as if it was a living thing (something sincere in the case of a forum) to fool the fish (posters).
The origin of the term, from “trolling” is why I, in my overly precise way, insist on calling such people “trollers” rather than “trolls” since the former is “one who trolls” and the latter is a mythical Norse beast who lives under a bridge.
But usage demands that “troll” is correct so I recognize the quixotic nature of my complaint.
fan of pd:
Could you, perhaps, give us a few of those millions of reasons? Without some kind of information about what is going wrong there isn’t a chance of getting good help.
There is at least one. I answered according to the Tzitz Eliezer (as far as I can understand how he holds, I certainly don’t speak for him and I am not a posek, etc., etc.)
If you want a less halachic and more hashkafic answer which I believe conforms to that opinion, then here is an elaboration. (ENTIRELY MY OWN AND SHOULD BE IGNORED BY ALL PIOUS JEWS, ETC.)
If what you have done is something which would be appropriately “punished” by the civil authorities, then it is a kind of “civil kaporah” to turn yourself in and “serve your time”. If, on the other hand, it is something which is punished disproportionately (e.g.: you sold crack cocaine, an offense for which the mandatory sentencing is far in excess of the same offense if the cocaine was in powdered form) then I would suggest that you are an auto-moser.
Note also that it is pertinent whether you are currently hiding from law enforcement, or whether your crime could be discovered. If neither is true, then I would adopt a more stringent view and suggest that you should *not* surrender yourself. Instead you should undertake a personal kaporah.
DISCLAIMER: The foregoing is the vapid meandering of an am haaretz. Repeating it or acting on it in any way is certainly an error.
MichaelC:
Since you have the advantage of knowing a lot of Torah, and spending so much time learning, it would be very nice if you could share some of it here in a way that is acceptable. I know you don’t agree with the moderators, but you can’t change what they do. If you fight with them you keep Torah from other people.
There is an infinite amount of Torah to share and I am sure you can find things to share here that are completely kosher in this environment. If you act as you have been you not only don’t share any Torah, you destroy the peace and friendship in here as people take sides. You cause strong language to be used where none would need to be used.
Can’t you show us Torah that *will* be allowed?
I can’t argue with you since I don’t have any information on that. However, apparently, the Tzitz Eliezer felt it was valid. I can only go by what it reported as written in his name, I don’t own the sefer. I have no reason to think it is fabricated, though.
In any case, I make no assertion of its ultimate validity, I just don’t have enough information.
Even in the understanding of the secular court system it appears that there is a difference between primitive and enlightened governments as is noted by the Aruch Hashulchan in Choshen Mishpat 388:7 where it states that “every issue related to informing found in the Talmud and poskim deals with those far away places where no one was secure in his money or body because of the bandits and pirates, even those who had authority, as we know nowadays in places like Africa” such is not the case in Europe, as the Aruch Hashulchan notes.
Tzitz Eliezer 19:52
DISCLAIMER: While I find it silly to add this, I will. I am not a posek. The statement above, in response to Wolf was not a legal opinion and included language intended to indicate its provisional nature “It appears…” Please do not turn yourself in to the police on my authority.
The other possibility is a netbook, like an Asus Eee PC, and portable DVD drive (which is quite small). This would cost you no more than an iPad and do what you want.
It appears that Rabbi Eliezer Yehuda Waldenberg holds that if you believe that dina malchuta dina is in effect, informing is not prohibited. So, it would follow, that if you felt you *should* turn yourself in, because the law is just, then you would not be a moser according to this view.
The iPad has no CD/DVD drive. I don’t know of any tablet that does. The is no external mass storage connection (USB, etc.) on the iPad.
This is a really easy one, but very tasty. If it’s done right, it can be light and not so greasy as some.
3 diced onions (diced)
1 cup flour
1 tsp baking powder
1/2 cup oil
3 eggs
1 tbsp chicken soup mix
Preheat oven to 400.
Mix all ingredients and pour into a greased (spray or butter) 8 by 8 pan.
Bake for 35-45 minutes, until golden brown, and fork comes out clean.
Wolf:
I have been a vegetarian (with eggs, milk, cheese and limited fish) for many years. I find no simcha in eating meat at all and so I don’t eat it. Wine is nice, though.
I love to cook and find special joy in cooking for Shabbos and Yom Tov. There are some fantastic traditional Sephardic dishes, but also so many national cuisines. I specialize in Indian food and when I have the chance to make that for Yom Tov is it very special to me (and very much enjoyed by the family). Cooking for eight is a bit of a challenge, I admit.
Try making palak paneer or shahi paneer for Shavuos.
Turnus Rufus once asked Rabbi Akiva, “Whose works are better? Those of G-d or those of man?”
Rabbi Akiva answered, “Those of man are better.”
Turnus Rufus asked, “Can you make anything better than heaven and earth?”
Akiva said, “Don’t give me examples that are beyond human capability. Let’s talk about something men can do!”
Turnus Rufus asked, “Why do you circumcise yourselves?” Rabbi Akiva sais, “I knew you would ask me about brit milah, and for that reason I told you the works of men are greater than those of G-d.”
Rabbi Akiva then showed two things to Turnus Rufus: stalks of wheat and and a beautiful bread baked by his wife. Rabbi Akiva asked Turnus Rufus, “These are from G-d, and this is from man, which is greater?”
We humans are partners with haShem. He creates things which we cannot and we complete them. This means making food beautiful is fulfilling our part of that partnership and fully appreciating what we are given. As with everything we do, balance is important. But there are many parts of the process of making beautiful food that offer an opportunity to ivdu es haShem b’simcha. The preparation is an avodah for the preparer. The enjoyment of the beauty is an avodah for the eater. When we make a bracha on beautiful food, we can have special kavana.
Never miss a chance to find ways to appreciate this world that we’ve been given to care for. Make everything you can beautiful because only humans can take the raw materials of this world and make them into kallim of beauty for avodat haShem.