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flamingo claims that I make ‘arab hating’ and ‘islamaphobic’ statements
she uses that accusation as a convenient excuse
to avoid an honest discussion about the real facts that are raised
reality is not ‘hating’ , reality is simply a fact ….
ignore facts at your own peril ….
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.flamingo professes to be a jew
and a religious one ….
does flamingo know the severity of the issur of motsi shem ra ????
did flamingo ever learn the sefer of the hafets hayim in a thorough manner ????
does flamingo know that the issur of motsi shem ra is multiplied by the amount of people she is libeling ????
does flamingo know what the zohar writes about people who are motsi la’az about the collective of klal yisrael ????
is she really religious ????
is she really jewish ????
all one big mystery …..
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.Silly flamingo claims that to say that the Jews are indigenous to Israel is silly.
Proof ?? — listen to this : Even in the Torah we came in and conquered , we were not from modern day Israel.
——————According to silly flamingo – are the spanish people “indigenous” to spain ?
the english people indigenous to england ?
are the arab people ‘indegenous’ to the arab countries of north africa ?
waiting for silly flamingo to come up with a serious answer ….
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besides – ignorant flamingo is attempting to use the torah to ‘prove’ that jews supposedly are not indigenous to EY
because the torah states that yehoshua conquered the land
would like to enlighten ignorant flamingo here — this very same torah which ignorant flamingo is attempting to hijack against the jews
that very same torah states that in the time before avraham, much before yehoshua , the seven nations conquered it from zar’o shel shem ,
who were the family of avraham , so the seven nations were not ‘indigenous’ either
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when will flamingo actually stop for a moment , take a deep breath and RE EXAMINE her long held dogma ????
are they sound ??? do they align with the hard facts ??? with cold logic ????
should we really outsource our thinking to others ????
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flamingo goes on and on and should cut to the issue at hand – am deleting the unnecessary details from her post and correcting it as she should have written if she would listen to reality instead of biased and lying propaganda , masquerading as ‘reports’
1] how many innocent german children died in world war two ?
was that genocide ?
if not , why not ?…….
if your asking about non-jewish german children, I would imagine there are many who died, but not from genocide, these were more casualties of war than genocide .
What differentiates this from genocide is the intent.
If the Allies would intend to genocide the german civilians , THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO KILL THEM AFTER THEY WON THE WAR
They did not – that shows that they were ‘casualties’ , nothing more.
And this is vital when understanding what is happening in Palestine.
Because Israel isn’t killing any arab civilians after they win the war , that shows their intent . Otherwise why would they stop ?Intent from Israeli Government:
– Comments wrongly interpreted by biased antisemites as comparing Palestinians to “human animals” — language that those liars made appear viewed as dehumanizing the innocent arab civilians , when in fact those comments are referring to armed genocidal fanatics of the Hamas variety and their supporters
– Statements by political and military leaders framed in religious or absolute terms, such as invoking the command to destroy Amalek, which should be understood as “total annihalation” for the same armed fanatics
– A letter by a top official to soldiers described in the UN-Hamas propaganda report as stressing a kind of “total annihilation” approach, which the commission mistreated as an indicator of intent to destroy a group of civilians when in fact was referring to the same armed fanatics
The UN – Hamas propanda claims that the only reasonable inference is genocidal intent.
The UN-Hamas propaganda highlights these patterns:
– Deliberate deprivation and siege conditions which in fact was targeted against armed fanatics
A long‑term blockade restricting food, water, medicine, fuel and humanitarian access to Gaza, which was aimed at the fanatics and their supporters.– Scale and nature of mass harm
“Very high” civilian death tolls, including large numbers of children, totally ignoring comparable war situations with even higher civilian death tolls– Destruction of vital infrastructure
Widespread destruction of homes, hospitals, schools, water systems, and other infrastructure , to be blamed on Hamas genocidal monsters using those facilities for their genocidal activities.– Measures affecting births
Destruction of reproductive health facilities (such as IVF clinics) and other services that affect the ability of the population to reproduce — to be blamed on the same Hamas monsters using those facilities for their genocidal activities.………..
why does flamingo not answer those simple objective reality based questions ?
How come the arab population, their life expectancy , their economic development in EY is doing so well under a GENOCIDE ?
whenever there is no armed conflict and no active preparation for one, that is .
whenever and wherever there is no conflict , those three sure proof indicators skyrocket – how does that square with an intent to annihilate them ?
how did the population of gaza multiply to over 2 million under a genocide ?????
how were the population numbers of the jews faring under a real genocide in Europe ?
remember – the word genocide did not exist . It was created in order to stop the nazi genocide from reoccurring ….
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why can’t you argue your case without constantly relying on the authority of so called ‘commissions’ ?why can’t you argue your case on the basis of facts and logic only ?
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.brainless flamingo is not engaging with the ideas , nor is she answering questions
USA bombing in Japan constitutes genocide – Yes or No ?
why can’t you answer a straight answer ?
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@ brainless flamingo
In the same sentence I say I respect all people I call flamingo a filthy liar that has punishment coming from shamayim.
yes.
In the same sentence that I say I respect all people , I will also call a murderer a filthy murderer because that’s what he is .
one should respect all people and should still call out filthy murderers – not a contradiction at all
and call out accessories to murder through their filthy lies – yes call them out too
meaning – people like flamingo
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.if someone chvsh murders my brothers – the least I can do is to call them out
if someone advocates to facilitate murdering my brothers through the spreading of lies – the least I can do is to call them out too
any decent and reasonable person should do the same
why that is in any way a contradiction to respecting all people – is beyond me …
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That is one of the major differences between habad and the other outreach organizations
the other orgs accompany the person during the entire journey whereas habad concentrate on the mitsva actions
the other orgs are also pragmatic
they just have different priorities
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.somejew claims :
the situation in Eretz Yisroel is not pikiach nefesh. If it was pikiach nefesh, there would be a mass exodus of emigrants leaving the zionist borders right now.
—you obviously are missing the point
the reason why there is no ‘mass exodus’ is the result of the work of the IDF with the help from above
like the operating team saving the life of the patient with the help from above
the operating team is not allowed to stop it work even on shabbat because that is pikiach nefesh
likewise the minute the IDF stops its work , there will be
clear pikiach nefesh and a resulting mass exodus of those who can and have where to leave to …
those who don’t have papers , or where to go , or are old , sick or not fast enough … are liable to be
hacked to death — like the october 7 victims lo aleinu
this is the plain unvarnished reality
any ten year old child knows this
it is incumbent to be mehalel shabat to stop this from happening
as paskened in OC329
and where somejew’s non option of ‘running away’ is paskened there as not relevant at all
and hilul shabat is still mandated and so is the obvious fighting to defend innocents equally mandated
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.those who are able to stop it from happening and do not do so
are over on lo ta’amod al dam rei’acha on every minute they are able to and do not
this is the real torah view on the current situation
no matter whether the original zionists were right or wrong at the time
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.articulating this torah psak has no connection whatsoever with serving any supposed idol
on the other hand advocating for endangering masses of jews
on the basis of a hagadik maharal totally irrelevant to the immediate mass pikiach nefesh in front of us
and on top of that clearly contradicted by shulchan aruch YD 157
like somejew katan ujm and flamingo repeatedly do…
that is clear megaleh panim batorah shelo kahalacha and is playing with the lives of many millions
and totally reprehensible
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thanks for the complementary adjective
yes I do think that goldknodf should not use the yellow star here
it is totally inappropriate
btw – none of the gdolei yisrael said that
goldknopf is a nice jew but is not the one who is supposed to lead klal yisrael
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do not understand what proof ujm is attempting to bring from goldknopf
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.katan lives in his make believe world
in katans alternate universe the zionists ‘invaded’ EY
completely false
the zionists immigrated to EY — with the express permission of the authorities at the time
the overwhelming majority had permission
towards the end the number of illegal immigrants climbed
btw – rav wosner the posek hador and his wife immigrated illegally
they got off their boat and waded ashore – undetected
did rav wosner zatsal ‘invade’ ??
no , he did not . he immigrated
like the zionists
they all immigrated …
if there was someone who ‘invaded’ EY , it were the five arab armies , in may 1948 after the british withdrawal
thats some historical accuracy for katan, our revisionist ‘historian’ ….
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.realistic flamingo claims that “education, love, acceptance, these things stop genocide”
what stopped the nazi genocide ? ? ?
was it “education, love, acceptance” ? ? ?
what stopped the hamas attempted genocide on october 7 ??
was it “education, love, acceptance” ? ? ?
what did the now dead leftist victims of the october 7 attempted genocide , think while they were still alive ????
that their “education, love, acceptance” towards the pitiful arabs of gaza would stop their own murder ????
have a secret for our realistic flamingo —– the now dead leftist victims of the october 7 attempted genocide …
they thought like you ….
they showered gaza arabs with “education, love and acceptance” ….
they helped them , hosted them , ferried them around , loved them , accepted them , employed them and advocated for them ….
and it was those very same arabs who mapped their homes as preparation for the genocidal oct 7 mass murder
and later came to loot their homes ….
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how naive … how naive …..
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.flamingo the filthy liar claims that we are teaching Jewish children to hate Arabs . We are teaching Jewish children to hate Muslims, and overall to look down on Non-Jews .
flamingo the filthy liar should write for der sturmer .
they would be delighted to feature her
I pray that flamingo should get her just rewards from heaven for her filthy lies
this is total sheker vechazav
my children are NOT taught to hate arabs , nor are any of the children I know , nor are any children taught to hate any muslims
nor to look down on anyone whatsoever
my children are taught that chaviv adam she nivra betselem like mishna says in avot
my children are taught to treat everyone with respect as a human being
and let me tell you — they do respect every human being
I am deeply offended by your attacks , lies and vile slurs …
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.flamingo is being clear MOTSI SHEM RA on all of klal yisrael and will have to some very serious teshuva — if she is jewish ….
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.flamingo claims that arab land was ‘horrificly stolen’ …
—flamingo , you ‘evenhanded’ liar ….
the land of a million of jewish ‘indigenous’ innocents in arab countries all over the middle east … was that also ‘horrificly stolen’ …..
or not ? ? ?
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.flamingo falsely claims that in Israel Jews have more rights than non-jews.
Another monstrous lie .
all citizens in Israel are equal in front of the law no matter whether arab or jewish.
again wondering whether flamingo is jewish or not
such vile lies …
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arab citizens in arab countries do not enjoy the rights arab citizens enjoy in israel !!!!does flamingo know that there is widespread resistance from arab citizens in israel against a plan of transferring sovereignty of their homes
from israeli to arab , even when no one is moved at all ….
why do they prefer israeli sovereignty over arab sovereignty ??
why do they want to live under a ‘genocidal’ regime ????
have you ever seen a jew wanting to stay under a nazi regime ?????
do you realize that the contrived language you are parroting, amounts to nothing more than utter hogwash ???
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flamingo PERSONALLY is arguing for one state one vote with reparations …
one huge joke ….
flamingo PERSONALLY is guaranteeing that the one vote which each jew is receiving , courtesy of flamingo , will actually count ….
moreover , flamingo PERSONALLY is guaranteeing that even the one vote which each arab will have , will actually count ….
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if so , flamingo PERSONALLY should also guarantee that the one vote which each arab has in all twenty arab countries actually count ….
do they really count ????
you know what …. before we will rely on flamingo’s PERSONAL PROMISE that each vote will count in EY …
let her prove her prowess and see how she first makes sure that the one vote the arab has in all of his twenty arab countries , actually count ……
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but no …. there must be some UN report , somewhere … saying that the arab citizens’ vote within arab countries actually do count …
so that UN report trumps reality …
that sounds like an excellent refutation of my comment ….
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.flamingo claims that israel is a colonial ethno-nationalist state ….
not backed up by any facts nor any logic ….
why is israel any more ‘ethno nationalist’ than any of the twenty arab states ???
why is israel any more ‘ethno nationalist’ than any of the fifty muslim states ????
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.why is israel ‘colonial’ ???
why is the US not ‘colonial’ ???
why are Australia and New Zealand not ‘colonial’ ???
why is Canada not ‘colonial’ ???
why are the arab countries not ‘colonial’ ??? Didn’t they come from the Arabian Peninsula and ‘colonize’ the entire Middle East ????
The roots of the Jews in the Land of Israel are much deeper than any of all other nations mentioned ….
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.Flamingo — FACT , FIGURES and COLD HARD LOGIC , please
no false fuzzy brain numbing platitudes which cannot standup in the harsh light of reality ….
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.flamingo falsely claims that israel displaced the indegenous population that was in their way
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That is another monstrous lie on the same level of the blood in the matses .
with the same monstrous results
hard to believe that flamingo is actually jewish given the monstrosities she continuously spouts
israel did not fight with any of the arab nations surrounding it , NOR DID IT FIGHT WITH THE ARABS who lived in palestine
israel GUARANTEED EQUAL RIGHTS for any arab who happened to live in its allotted part of palestine
if the arabs would accept the UN’s Partition Plan of 1947 , ALL ARABS WOULD CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THEIR HOMES
it was the arabs and millions of their crazed supporters WHO OPENLY DECLARED THAT THEY WILL KILL AND PUSH THE JEWS INTO THE SEA
it was the arabs all over the middle east who brutally attacked and murdered innocent ‘indigenous’ Jewish civilians in their countries
confiscated all their belongings and expelled them all without even a cent of compensation
those ‘indigenous’ civilians WERE OF NO THREAT WHATSOEVER , nevertheless were they genocidally murdered ….
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re the libel of so called ‘displacement’ …it was israel who encouraged arabs to stay in their villages , while the supreme arab command encouraged them to flee.
which most of them did.
those arabs who stayed , actually enjoyed equal rights as was promised
they number now over 2 million
but flamingo liar , please tell me — conversely—- WHERE ARE THE TWO MILLION JEWS UNDER ARAB DOMINION ???
WHERE ARE THEIR EQUAL RIGHTS ????
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.flamingo liar , please tell me —– why are the Jews who set foot in arab villages cruelly murdered ,
whereas arabs wander unharmed in jewish villages and towns ????arab towns are judenrein
the jewish country is full of arabs …flamingo liar , please tell me — honestly —- if you know the real meaning of the word ….
WHO IS GENOCIDAL ??? the arabs or the israeli’s ???
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the thief is screaming thief ….
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.flamingo claims that it is “my assumption” is that they want to wipe us out …
—-IT IS NOT MY ASSUMPTION
IT IS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DID …. AND STILL DO …. AND WHAT THEY SAY THEY WILL DO AGAIN … AND AGAIN ….
why is flamingo purposely ignoring facts staring right into her face ?? is she that stupid ??
in her personal life is she also that stupid ???
when people spit in her face , does she also claim that it just happened to be raining ????
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.flamingo claims : …The answer could have been (and was for many) to find saftey in countries that will make space for jewish people
—no country ‘makes space’ for eight million jewish israeli’s
that is a total fallacy
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.there exist twenty arab countries
there exist fifty muslim countries
they own real estate stretching from the atlantic to the pacific
from the caucuses to central africa
they own untold trillions of dollars of oil
but they cannot spare one six hundredth of land for the real indigenous people in their own land …
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.there never existed an arab independent state in palestine — NEVER
their forefathers were immigrants to this land and did not develop it nor financed this land
it always was a backwater
until someone else develops it
there is one name for such an attitude — greediness and jealousy
add to that violence , the lust of killing and religious fanaticism and
voila—– there you have REAL GENOCIDE in the form of Mufti Husseini , Hamas , Islamic Jihad , Hezbollah and Iran …
defended by a GENOCIDE ENABLER WHO GOES BY THE NAME OF FLAMINGO …..
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Hard Facts and Figures , please ….No “reports” , please ….
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.FLAMINGO claims : the current populations of Jews in israel were not in need of this “self-defense” from Hamas prior to the establishment of the state of israel ….
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Such a Sheker … Such a monstrous lie ….If not for the British authorities and the Jewish self defense groups BEFORE 1948 , the entire Jewish population would be gruesomely HACKED TO DEATH
just like their unfortunate brothers and sisters in 1921 , in 1926 , in 1929 , in 1936-1939 , in 1946 , and in 1947.My own grandfather remembered hiding as a child from crazed murderous Arab mobs in Haifa in 1936. He had to be smuggled out of his hiding place in the middle of the night , never to return to his childhood home. The whole family was lucky to escape with their lives .
And had to start anew in Jerusalem … from scratch .That is no news for the Middle East . Ask the Yazidi’s , the Kurds , the Alawites , the Jews from 1948 in Egypt , in Syria , in Iraq , in Yemen .
Listen to the Secretary General of the Arab League who clearly said that the massacres of Djengis Kahn will pale in comparison …
Follow the activities of Grand Mufti Husseini , the ultimate hero of the Arabs BEFORE 1948 who organized Muslim army brigades for Hitler.
Who visited Auschwitz in admiration of the good work done there .
Do all that , and you will acquire a taste for REAL GENOCIDE , not for the false ersatz variety …
You are buried in lies and without drastic mental action this will be your grave .
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.@flamingo
Deliberate deprivation and siege conditions
AGAINST GENOCIDAL HAMASA long‑term blockade restricting food, water, medicine, fuel and humanitarian access to Gaza,
AGAINST GENOCIDAL HAMAS– Scale and nature of mass harm
Very high civilian death tolls, including large numbers of children, from repeated bombardments and operations
LESS THEN OTHER COMPARABLE CONFLICTS
3 MILLION JAPANESE CIVILIANS DEAD IS NOT GENOCIDE , BUT 40.000 ARABS DEAD IS ????– Destruction of vital infrastructure
Widespread destruction of homes, hospitals, schools, water systems, and other infrastructure indispensable to civilian survival.
ALL USED BY GENOCIDAL HAMAS– Measures affecting births
Destruction of reproductive health facilities (such as IVF clinics) and other services that affect the ability of the population to reproduce — which the UN commission treated as potentially fitting one of the Convention’s categories.
WHICH THE UN LIARS USED TO LIE AND LIBEL
AND THE FLAMINGO HYPOCRITE AND LIAR IS USING TO LIE AND LIBELHOW MANY IVF CLINICS WERE LEFT STANDING IN IRAQ AFGHANISTAN SUDAN ALGERIA SYRIA AND YEMEN ????
GENOCIDAL HAMAS SHOULD NOT USE THEM FOR WEAPONS AND FIGHTERS STORAGE AND THEY WILL BE LEFT STANDING ….
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FLAMINGO LOST HER BRAIN … SHE STOPPED THINKING FOR HERSELF ….ALL SHE APPARENTLY IS ABLE TO , IS QUOTING SO CALLED REPORTS ….
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UN reports are not worth the paper they are written on
They do not count at all
THE ONLY THING WHICH COUNTS IS …. REALITY
You should stop to outsource your intellect and your thinking to others !!!
Yes , there are calls for annihilation of a group .
That group is Hamas .
That group is GENOCIDAL Hamas .
Real genocidal . Not libelously genocidal.
You should not be defending real genocide .
You should not be falsely libeling those who STOP genocide .
That makes YOU an accomplice to genocide .
No matter what the biased liars of the UN say .
They are an accomplice too.
One accomplice takes the other accomplice as a witness …
SHAME ON YOU !!!!
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.@flamingo
There is NO INTENT whatsoever to commit genocide on behalf of Israel.
This is plain ridiculous . As ridiculous as the notion that Jews put blood in their matses .
And like the matses blood libel was used then to shed innocent Jewish blood , so is the genocide lie being used now to shed innocent Jewish blood.
If Israel would be intent on “genociding” the Arabs living in Palestine , then how come the Arab population in the West Bank and Gaza exploded from 1967 until now ?
Who is stopping those evil Israeli’s from genociding the Arabs ? The Arabs are at the mercy of the “occupation” , no ?
And that for over 50 years ….
How many Jews would be left after 50 years under Nazi occupation ?
The Arab population explodes since 1967
The Arab life expectancy shoots up since 1967
The Arabs’ GDP multiplies again and again since 1967
All while under the ‘evil genocidal’ Israel …..
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Come on Mrs Flamingo — where is your brain ?????
It seems that your brain is under ‘occupation’ ….
It is occupied by some special wash , manufactured by a coalition of Arabs and leftists amplified by biased MSM
which STOPS YOU FROM THINKING INDEPENDENTLY , you follow the brainwashers like sheep unthinkingly following their master ….
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Stop relying on lying ‘reports’ .and start analyzing the facts as they are , with honesty and backbone instead of quoting liars .
If you have to resort to quoting reports to buttress your point , it is a sure sign that that your opinion cannot stand on its own …
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.May we have first THE TRUTH and therefore ‘true peace’ in our days .
Otherwise we will be left with the lies and the resulting FALSE ‘piece’ …
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.According to leading researchers of DePauw University :
“American propaganda during the War
dehumanized and vilified targeted groups. The Japanese were among these
targeted groups as they were depicted as savage, subhuman and in need of extermination by American forms of
media and Government .The following US Government poster is a good example :
Stay on the job until every MURDERING
JAP is wiped out.”My question to you : Are the Americans during WW2 guilty of Genocide ? Yes or No ?
Bear in mind the 3 million plus innocent Japanese civilians who died by American bombs ….
Genocide ??? , Yes or No ???
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who understand that their rebbe was great but still limited and in certain cases severely mistaken
and who could formulate a way of articulating this without on one hand being mevazeh people unnecessary and
on the other hand without giving him unearned immunity from crosschecking him with basic facts and basic logic
shabtai tzvi was great — by all accounts
otherwise he would not be able to garner the following of the majority of the jews in his time
including many famous rabbanim
great but still mistaken , …. severely mistaken
great does not mean … infallible
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flamingo refuses to answer any of the 17 simple questions
but still accuses the jews of ‘foreclosing critique’ …..
I recommend her for honorable mention in the Guinness Book of Records under the subject of “Biggest Hypocrite” …..
/////////////////katan’s answer is only for the small minority of klal yisrael who believe in the shita hakdosha
for the majority of klal yisrael this is not an answer .
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the real answer is teshuva . hayom im bekoli tishma’un
lev yodea marat nafsho
and everyone should make their own cheshbon hanefesh.
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ujm’s proposal to ‘give’ EY to the US , is a total non starter
they will NEVER take it
they will NEVER grant citizenship to the 12- 15 million arabs and jewish inhabitants plus descendants of refugees
they will NEVER deploy their soldiers and put them in harm’s way to shield the innocent jews from the brainwashed barbarians
who relish to see masses of blood
ujm himself does’ not believe in this proposal either
ujm only mentions this as a diversionary tactic
ujm is blinded by a agadic maharal
which is totally irrelevant to our situation
and additionally, is not even halacha pesuka
as all halachik codifiers clearly paskan otherwise.
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its all one big baloney .
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.If we do not know how to solve the problem — then it is pikuach nefesh and al pi torah we are commanded with lo ta’amod al dam reiacha
for each and every jew endangered
for each and every time the danger is stoppable.
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.that adds up to a really huge amount of la’avin …
so there are an innumerable amount of la’avin commanding us to keep the medina intact and support it
because of innumerable pikuach nefesh
of innumerable yehudim
and innumerable situations for each and every yehudi
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.if you would have a practical solution then those la’avin might fall away
therefore it is extremely important to see whether there is another solution or not
and also extremely important to see how durable the other solution is
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the torah clearly commands us to look for solutions —- all the time
it is included in the hiyuv gamur of “lo ta’amod al dam re’acha” ….
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.I hear that the other NK achm … who moved from manchester to belgium complained to the government about rav leibish leiser the pshevorsker rabbe ?
I hear that there is a criminal file opened against the rebbe as a result ….
Is that an established pattern for the NK to follow ?
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.Napoleon invaded Europe against the wishes of its citizens there over two centuries ago. Napoleon insisted on fighting until he conquered all of Europe. So Napoleon knew very well the trouble he was causing.
Those words of mine are as relevant to the future of the Jews in EY as your words ….
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you are a plain mehutsaf when you call satmar rav a ‘phoney’ etc
there is a clear hyuv mecha’a against such blatant bizuy talmidei hahamim
this is very hamur and
you should recant asap
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I did not comprehend …
laughing again ….
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.those savages will not rule EY ????
really ???
so exactly who will rule ????
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.who exactly will be happy for their own sons to die in fights against those savages ????
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.somejew in his previous post admitted that he does not have a solution for mass pikuach nefesh miyadi we collectively are facing
he nevertheless advocates in a psik reisha way for an option in which this mass pikuach nefesh should materialise chvsh
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.in our torah – not sure about his ….
we are commanded to do everything in our power [besides the 3 hamurot] to avert pikach nefesh even for one individual
kal vachomer ben beno shel kal vachomer for mass pikuach nefesh
all of the above is simple and straightforward torah , clear even to a bar bei rav dechad yoma
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.somejew , katan, ujm and flamingo are tirelessly advocating against the torah
and that on a site calling itself ‘yeshiva’ ….
they are no different to reform advocating for driving on shabbat to encourage shul attendance
which would never merit a place on a ‘yeshiva’ site …..
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flamingo refuses to answer any of the 17 simple questions
but still accuses the jews of ‘foreclosing critique’ …..
I recommend her for honorable mention in the Guinness Book of Records under the subject of “Biggest Hypocrite” …..
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.flamingo is one huge copout
she falsely complains that people don’t answer her delusions
when she herself refuses to answer 17 clear and simple REALITY BASED questions
she – if she continues to refuse to answer …
is losing all credibility ….
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.@flamingo
you frequently complain that you cannot read my posts – they have all caps , hashem yishmor ….
repasted my questions here in an easier to read format for you
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.1] how many innocent german children died in world war two ?
was that genocide ?
if not , why not ?
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.2] given that hamas – and the majority of so called palestinians supported by many millions more outside palestine,
fanatically want israel and its jewish inhabitants to literally disappear from the face of the earth
why do you describe people dying in israel’s defensive wars as dying to ‘make space’ for it ?
why are they not considered as dying to defend their own families existence ?
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.3] why are you blindly parroting the distortions by the biased media ?
why are you ignoring the fanatical armed men hiding in between those innocent children who are the real criminals
who are the ones who have the blood of those children on their hands ?
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4] why are those fanatical men not offering the usage of their hundreds of kms of tunnels to those innocent children ?
is it because they are hoping for [!] those innocent children to be blown to bits ?
and hoping for flamingOTD to write heartwrenching ‘humane’ posts about those evil zionists ?
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.5] why are you prepared to be the prop and the useful idiot in the hands of those very same criminals
who are the ones who have the blood of the children from their own community on their own hands
and are counting on you to do their bidding ?
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.6] what happens to a jew who walks by himself into most so called ‘nongenocidal’ arab towns in the middle east ?
what happens to an arab who walks by himself into most so called ‘genocidal’ israeli towns in the middle east ?
can you give an honest reality based answer ?
after this answer — with honesty and reality , which side is the real genocidal one ?
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.7] anywhere between 600000 and two and a half million German civilians died during the 1940’s as a result of the Allies war against Germany .
Is that genocide ? ? ?
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.8] do you recognize the established fact that …. there are arab ministers , supreme court judges and MK’s in israel ?
so why do you repeat the lie that israel is racist ?
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.9] do you recognize the established fact that jews come from all diverse ‘races’ . brown, white, black and yellow ?
so why do you repeat the lie that israel is racist ?
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.10] considering the context of hamas hiding behind civilians coupled with international denial of civilians the natural and essential option
of running away
why do the Arab and leftist hypocrites who block their escape not have their innocent blood on their own hands ???
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,11] Were the majority of deaths civilian in the invasion of Iraq ??
Were the majority of deaths civilian in the War in Afghanistan ??
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.12] Why is the fact that the vast majority of deaths in gaza are civilian , any proof that israel does not target terrorists ??
is it not possible that civilians are killed because of hamas hiding and mingling with them ???
do you have real proof that this is not the case ??
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13] Why does hamas not give shelter to civilians in their many hundreds kms long tunnels ???could it be that civilian casualties is a desired outcome for them ???
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.14] if many millions of people would support nazism , would you fall in line , simply because that would be “the perspective of the world” at the time ????
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15] compare arab population growth in palestine from 1860 – 1940 with arab population growth in syria , jordan and lebanon …communities with same cultural characteristics , how come there is such a huge difference in population growth ?
the answer is arab immigration towards palestine … lured there to benefit from huge zionist investments ….
so why do they merit the unearned moniker of ‘indigenous’ ????
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.16] the so called ‘palestinians’ NEVER had an independent country
not under caliph omar from 638 who was muslim
not under the mamelukes from 1239 who were muslim
not under the ottomans from 1516 who were muslim
not under the jordanians and the egyptians from 1948 who were muslim
why did their own muslim ‘brothers’ not grant them a country ??
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.17] did you hear the true tales of the real ‘indigenous’ yazidi , of what happened to them ????
of the kurds ???
of the alawites ???
of the druze ????
why do you think the lot of the jews will be any better ???
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.we need answers based on hard reality
will repeat —— ON HARD REALITY
not based on feel good media talking points
or on
fuzzy feel good distortions
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.there you are
presented you with 17 simple reality based questions
can you honestly answer them — reality based , fact based ???
let’s see …
looking forward to your point by point answers , reality based
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.anyone knows the name of katan’s mother ?
katan needs our tefillot urgently
when confronted with the ikarei emuna of hamas , which include the destruction of the jews anywhere on the globe
plus praise for hitler
he blames the … zionists
instead of blaming hamas themselves and
instead of recognizing that as the direct result of katan’s shitah
those savages will rule EY …
which obviously is clear mass pikuach nefesh
katan buries his head in the sand …
katan needs a refua shlema
refuat hanefesh …
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.somejew asked where the NK is against the torah ???
The following are the Hamas’ ikarei emuna:
– The Jews were killed in Germany because they helped the enemy
– All misfortunes suffered by the Jews anywhere over the generations are their own fault
– The Koran encourages the killing of Jews
– All Jews have to be driven out of Palestine
– The Jew is the historical center of evil, hated by the entire world
– The endgame is the total uprooting of the Jew , which will happen at the End of Days, may it happen with Allah’s help
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These are the people who are naturally next in line to take over governance of EY , when the fervent wishes of the NK for the collapse of the hated medina will materialize …
The very minute the IDF stops its work , those ‘people’ are taking over ….
No one besides the IDF is prepared to suffer dead and wounded to stop those ‘people’
No outside force will risk the lives of their soldiers to confront those fanatics
This is clear mass pikuach nefesh.
Clear to anyone not bribed by ideological blinkers ….
NK are advocating for mass pikuach nefesh chvsh
Much like reform are advocating for driving on shabbat
Against the torah
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.flamingo thinks that the jews who are threatened by genocidal barbarians are in need of some therapy
therapy which will restore their supposed lost empathy
supposed lost empathy as a result of trauma
trauma which causes supposed narrowness
and supposed reliance on supposed faulty imagination ….
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flamingo has it all backwardsflamingo is in need of reality checks
reality checks regarding , not the past , but the future
what you can reasonably expect of a one dimensional state
the blood shed by those same barbarians in lebanon , in syria , in libya , in iraq , in sudan , in algeria , in yemen
all without any ‘colonialism’ , ‘whiteness’ , ‘occupation’ and any of those other false descriptions
that blood should serve as a timely reminder of what the future holds in a state governed by them ….
how blind could flamingo get , when she ignores those widespread atrocities …..
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bet that flamingo is not going to answer … for the simple reason ….that there is no honest answer available …..
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.@flamingo
1] how many innocent german children died in world war two ?
was that genocide ?
if not , why not ?
2] given that hamas – and the majority of so called palestinians supported by many millions more outside palestine,
fanatically want israel and its jewish inhabitants to literally disappear from the face of the earth
why do you describe people dying in israel’s defensive wars as dying to ‘make space’ for it ?
why are they not considered as dying to defend their own families existence ?
3] why are you blindly parroting the distortions by the biased media ?
why are you ignoring the fanatical armed men hiding in between those innocent children who are the real criminals
who are the ones who have the blood of those children on their hands ?
4] why are those fanatical men not offering the usage of their hundreds of kms of tunnels to those innocent children ?
is it because they are hoping for [!] those innocent children to be blown to bits ?
and hoping for flamingOTD to write heartwrenching ‘humane’ posts about those evil zionists ?
5] why are you prepared to be the prop and the useful idiot in the hands of those very same criminals
who are the ones who have the blood of the children from their own community on their own hands
and are counting on you to do their bidding ?
6] what happens to a jew who walks by himself into most so called ‘nongenocidal’ arab towns in the middle east ?
what happens to an arab who walks by himself into most so called ‘genocidal’ israeli towns in the middle east ?
can you give an honest reality based answer ?
after this answer — with honesty and reality , which side is the real genocidal one ?
7] anywhere between 600000 and two and a half million German civilians died during the 1940’s as a result of the Allies war against Germany .
Is that genocide ? ? ?
8] do you recognize the established fact that …. there are arab ministers , supreme court judges and MK’s in israel ?
so why do you repeat the lie that israel is racist ?
9] do you recognize the established fact that jews come from all diverse ‘races’ . brown, white, black and yellow ?
so why do you repeat the lie that israel is racist ?
10] considering the context of hamas hiding behind civilians coupled with international denial of civilians the natural option
of running away
why do the Arab and leftist hypocrites who block their escape not have their innocent blood on their own filthy hands ???
11] Were the majority of deaths civilian in the invasion of Iraq ??
Were the majority of deaths civilian in the War in Afghanistan ??
12] Why is the fact that the vast majority of deaths in gaza are civilian , any proof that israel does not target terrorists ??
is it not possible that civilians are killed because of hamas hiding and mingling with them ???
do you have real proof that this is not the case ??
13] Why does hamas not give shelter to civilians in their many hundreds kms long tunnels ???
could it be that civilian casualties is a desired outcome for them ???
14] if many millions of people would support nazism , would you fall in line , simply because that would be “the perspective of the world” at the time ????
15] compare arab population growth in palestine from 1860 – 1940 with arab population growth in syria , jordan and lebanon …
communities with same cultural characteristics , how come there is such a huge difference in population growth ?
the answer is arab immigration towards palestine … lured there to benefit from huge zionist investments ….
so why do they merit the unearned moniker of ‘indigenous’ ????
16] the so called ‘palestinians’ NEVER had an independent country
not under caliph omar from 638 who was muslim
not under the mamelukes from 1239 who were muslim
not under the ottomans from 1516 who were muslim
not under the jordanians and the egyptians from 1948 who were muslim
why did their own muslim ‘brothers’ not grant them a country ??
17] did you hear the true tales of the real ‘indigenous’ yazidi , of what happened to them ????
of the kurds ???
of the alawites ???
of the druze ????
why do you think the lot of the jews will be any better ???
we need answers based on hard reality
will repeat —— ON HARD REALITY
not based on feel good media talking points
or on
fuzzy feel good distortions
.
there you are
presented you with 17 simple reality based questions
can you honestly answer them — reality based , fact based ???
let’s see …
@flamingo
my questions are not ‘hard to read’
my ‘personal insults’ are not any more ‘personal’ than yours
nor are they any more of an ‘insult’ than your comments are
if your comments are described as evil , it only is because the results of your comments
are the barbaric slaughter of my brothers in EY, which happens to be …. evil
all caps should not be an impediment to reading
and all of my questions are readily available for you to read , simply by scrolling up
they are written in simple and clear english
if you cannot comprehend them , then you should automatically be disqualified
from commenting on weighty topics like this one
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nevertheless I will copy and paste the questions for you again
but with one essential request — that your answers should be the product of YOUR OWN MIND , and
not a regurgitation of what you pick up in the biased and evil media … yes …. evil , you read correctly ….
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.there was another achmed in manchester who went to iran
to hug president ahmedinejad who claimed the holocaust was an invention ….
he moved to belgium
he was also ‘sweet’ like cohen ….
ask the jews from belgium about him …
we should post about his ‘sweetness’ another time ….
we could write an entire volume about his ‘sweetness’ ….
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.there were golden ages for jews in spain and the ottomans in turkey, both muslim
so , no they are NOT preaching this for 1400 years ….
please don’t ignore the facts
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.we need your honest answer …
Hate of The Jews – A Historical Inheritance [2020 – printed in Gaza]
No Future [for the Jew] within the Nations [2008 – printed in Algeria]These are the titles of the books , published by Dr Alhazar , Founding Father and Member of Politburo of Hamas and ex Foreign Minister of the Hamas government of Gaza.
In it , the esteemed author makes several extremely popular statements. Popular with his readership , the Arabs of Gaza and the West Bank. And with the Palestine – supporting outsiders . A copy of his book was found on the ‘humanitarian’ 2010 Mavi Marmara flotilla whose travelers’ ostensible goal was nothing more than providing aid to suffering Gazan Arabs .
Within those books the following gems are to be found ….
– The Jews were killed in Germany because they helped the enemy
– All misfortunes suffered by the Jews anywhere over the generations are their own fault
– The Koran encourages the killing of Jews
– All Jews have to be driven out of Palestine
– The Jew is the historical center of evil, hated by the entire world
– The endgame is the total uprooting of the Jew , which will happen at the End of Days, may it happen with Allah’s help
——————————————————-
These are the friends of somejew , of ujm , flamingOTD and katan
These are the people who are naturally next in line to take over governance of EY , when the fervent wishes of somejew , katan , flamingOTD and ujm for the collapse of the hated medina will materialize …
The very minute the IDF stops its work , those ‘people’ are taking over ….
No one besides the IDF is prepared to suffer dead and wounded to stop those ‘people’
No outside force will risk the lives of their soldiers to confront those fanatics
This is clear to anyone not bribed by ideological blinkers ….
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.Hate of The Jews – A Historical Inheritance [2020 – printed in Gaza]
No Future [for the Jew] within the Nations [2008 – printed in Algeria]These are the titles of the books , published by Dr Alhazar , Founding Father and Member of Politburo of Hamas and ex Foreign Minister of the Hamas government of Gaza.
In it , the esteemed author makes several extremely popular statements. Popular with his readership , the Arabs of Gaza and the West Bank. And with the Palestine – supporting outsiders . A copy of his book was found on the ‘humanitarian’ 2010 Mavi Marmara flotilla whose travelers’ ostensible goal was nothing more than providing aid to suffering Gazan Arabs .
Within those books the following gems are to be found ….
– The Jews were killed in Germany because they helped the enemy
– All misfortunes suffered by the Jews anywhere over the generations are their own fault
– The Koran encourages the killing of Jews
– All Jews have to be driven out of Palestine
– The Jew is the historical center of evil, hated by the entire world
– The endgame is the total uprooting of the Jew , which will happen at the End of Days, may it happen with Allah’s help
——————————————————-
These are the friends of somejew , of ujm , flamingOTD and katan
These are the people who are naturally next in line to take over governance of EY , when the fervent wishes of somejew , katan , flamingOTD and ujm for the collapse of the hated medina will materialize …
The very minute the IDF stops its work , those ‘people’ are taking over ….
No one besides the IDF is prepared to suffer dead and wounded to stop those ‘people’
No outside force will risk the lives of their soldiers to confront those fanatics
This is clear to anyone not bribed by ideological blinkers ….
.
.Hate of The Jews – A Historical Inheritance [2020 – printed in Gaza]
No Future [for the Jew] within the Nations [2008 – printed in Algeria]These are the titles of the books , published by Dr Alhazar , Founding Father and Member of Politburo of Hamas and ex Foreign Minister of the Hamas government of Gaza.
In it , the esteemed author makes several extremely popular statements. Popular with his readership , the Arabs of Gaza and the West Bank. And with the Palestine – supporting outsiders . A copy of his book was found on the ‘humanitarian’ 2010 Mavi Marmara flotilla whose travelers’ ostensible goal was nothing more than providing aid to suffering Gazan Arabs .
Within those books the following gems are to be found ….
– The Jews were killed in Germany because they helped the enemy
– All misfortunes suffered by the Jews anywhere over the generations are their own fault
– The Koran encourages the killing of Jews
– All Jews have to be driven out of Palestine
– The Jew is the historical center of evil, hated by the entire world
– The endgame is the total uprooting of the Jew , which will happen at the End of Days, may it happen with Allah’s help
——————————————————-
These are the friends of somejew , of ujm , flamingOTD and katan
These are the people who are naturally next in line to take over governance of EY , when the fervent wishes of somejew , katan , flamingOTD and ujm for the collapse of the hated medina will materialize …
The very minute the IDF stops its work , those ‘people’ are taking over ….
No one besides the IDF is prepared to suffer dead and wounded to stop those ‘people’
No outside force will risk the lives of their soldiers to confront those fanatics
This is clear to anyone not bribed by ideological blinkers ….
.
.Hate of The Jews – A Historical Inheritance [2020 – printed in Gaza]
No Future [for the Jew] within the Nations [2008 – printed in Algeria]These are the titles of the books , published by Dr Alhazar , Founding Father and Member of Politburo of Hamas and ex Foreign Minister of the Hamas government of Gaza.
In it , the esteemed author makes several extremely popular statements. Popular with his readership , the Arabs of Gaza and the West Bank. And with the Palestine – supporting outsiders . A copy of his book was found on the ‘humanitarian’ 2010 Mavi Marmara flotilla whose travelers’ ostensible goal was nothing more than providing aid to suffering Gazan Arabs .
Within those books the following gems are to be found ….
– The Jews were killed in Germany because they helped the enemy
– All misfortunes suffered by the Jews anywhere over the generations are their own fault
– The Koran encourages the killing of Jews
– All Jews have to be driven out of Palestine
– The Jew is the historical center of evil, hated by the entire world
– The endgame is the total uprooting of the Jew , which will happen at the End of Days, may it happen with Allah’s help
——————————————————-
These are the friends of somejew , of ujm , flamingOTD and katan
These are the people who are naturally next in line to take over governance of EY , when the fervent wishes of somejew , katan , flamingOTD and ujm for the collapse of the hated medina will materialize …
The very minute the IDF stops its work , those ‘people’ are taking over ….
No one besides the IDF is prepared to suffer dead and wounded to stop those ‘people’
No outside force will risk the lives of their soldiers to confront those fanatics
This is clear to anyone not bribed by ideological blinkers ….
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.Dr Mahmoud Alzahar ‘s book :
No future for Jews between the Nations [printed in Algeria 2008]
Dr Alzahar is a Founding Member of Hamas and member of their Politburo.
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.Gems to be found in his book :
-Hitler was right.
-There is no future for the Jews within the Nations of the World
-The Jew is a foreign plant within the Garden of the World
-The koran supports the killing of the Jews.
-The Jews have to be deported from Palestine
-The Jews will be totally uprooted
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ujm, somejew and katan support the collapse of the medina
ujm, somejew and katan seem to paskan halacha lema’se not like shulchan aruch
ujm, somejew and katan are therefore ready to be mafkir millions to the likes of Dr Alhazar …
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