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SlichosGenendel: As someone mentioned, maybe they knew you would open doors looking for your room, and didn’t want you looking in at all, even if you would never look in on purpose.
Who knows.
We lend out our house occasionally and my sister puts a sign on her door asking people not to go into her room- she gets a bit neurotic about it, especially when there are little kids who can mess stuff up. Unfortunately, it’s happened.
The bottom line it, it’s her right and it’s your host’s right. People have gotten burned.
We once came home after yom tov and discovered that we had cookie crumbs all over the bedrooms.
Sometimes you just want to contain the mess and not want to risk it.
The cheshbonos are complicated, and absolutely NONE of your business and not worth asking about on a forum like this.
writersoulParticipantTorah: No, I meant why suddenly bump up the thread now? Just seemed a bit random (if fun).
Yes, as a fellow female flummoxed by football, I agree, popa did a great job :).
Serious Premier League fans do NOT like stupid Amuhricans messing up the name of their sport. Or calling their team THE Hotspurs.
Silly me.
Actually, while I’ve definitely made such elementary errors in the past, this one was kind of different. I was referencing something British that itself referenced soc—FOOTBALL, and I used the s-word accidentally when I should have called it football. The reference was the kind of thing that can only be understood in context (otherwise it would look like I was talking utter gibberish), and, as I messed up the lashon, it, well, sounded like utter gibberish. It took me a bit of doing to sort it out.
June 30, 2013 3:02 am at 3:02 am in reply to: Meet Cindy�R. Shafran on the Israel draft situation #962308writersoulParticipantOkay, my mistake.
This just brings me back to what I’ve believed for a long time- the internet needs a sarcasm button.
Or a sarcasm face or something. We’ve got :), :(, :D- what’s a good mouth shape for sarcastic?
writersoulParticipantPBA: Why?
Anyway, just on Wednesday I had a mixup where I said soccer when I was talking about soccer (cuz I’m freakin’ American) but I was referring to a British game of “football” (hah) and it didn’t end well.
I really don’t want to talk about it.
🙂
writersoulParticipantFor the klal, re: rebdoniel’s post:
The 7-11 is at 59 and College across from Chai Pitaland (if anyone’s interested)- the gas station with cholent is the Getty on the Hill mentioned above.
However, DON’T stop in Monsey specifically for gas. The prices are quite high, especially when we have New Jersey around the corner. (And you don’t even need to get out of the car!) The only place in New York State where we get gas (unless our tank is literally running on empty) is Costco.
Don’t bother going to the Citgo gas station on the Palisades for gas (for snacks, maybe- I believe the store MIGHT be a little bit bigger). It’s negligibly less crowded than the ones by the GW, and is strategically located RIGHT by the NY/NJ border in such a way that while it’s thirty seconds from NJ, it still has NY prices.
Why not just buy snacks at Walmart or Costco or your local supermarket? Much cheaper.
Now, what I’d REALLY love to know is which rest stops have good bathrooms.
writersoulParticipantI’ve had that a bunch of times with my friend on here. We have a kind of an agreement to pretend we don’t know each other. I sometimes kind of bend the rules a bit, but I really, REALLY try not to.
If you’re reading this, EDITED , have a fantastic summer!
writersoulParticipantBiology: I’m not saying those are the numbers (that WOULD be ridiculous), but the concept that maybe the number of people auditioning is disproportionate is not far-fetched at all.
The type of person who would try out for Jeopardy in the first place probably has at least a relatively decent ability in the first place- remember, there are so many factors that go into selection, whether logistics (can you take off from work long enough to try out/film, are you within a reasonable distance of the place where they shoot), personality and photogenicity (yes, that’s a word, I googled it just to make sure), etc. Intelligence and knowledge are part of it but not the entire thing.
I’d be careful basing this off that book, though. The APA did an investigation of it afterward, and while most of the ideas were found to be true, many of the ideas concerning race and genetic intelligence were discredited. Even so there are plenty of books debating the concepts behind the bell curve when it comes to intelligence.
While that is always the case in science, don’t rely on it like the law.
writersoulParticipantyehudayona: Many new slim laptops, like MacBook Air and some Chromebooks, don’t have disc drives. (I have a Samsung Chromebook and it’s actually kind of annoying that way- awesome in every other way, though, I highly recommend it.) I think that they do have disc drives that attach by USB, though.
writersoulParticipantjewishfeminist02: I have one more year for the teen tournament- I think I really will try out… *omigosh!* 🙂 Except this is the one situation where I regret my old-movie-centric popular entertainment habits.
I sure hope I’m likable :)… Problem is that I’m not photogenic AT ALL.
I never watched “religiously” or anything, but I’ve seen enough that I think I’d do pretty well. I remember kind of snickering at some of the teen questions, though.
BTW: They have a website, J! Archives, with the questions from all 29 seasons, including the names and bios of every single contestant. I’m pretty sure it also includes celebrity, teen, and college games.
writersoulParticipantI go on a lot of road trips in really random places and it’s actually hard to find someplace that doesn’t have SOMETHING.
writersoulParticipantHaKatan: You’re not going to convince anyone who is already on the other side with these arguments, because you’re not attacking the underlying reasoning, just using your opinion and applying it to situations.
You’re looking at everything from the point of view that Israel is apikorsus- others are looking at everything from the opposite viewpoint.
For example:
You say that the Satan sometimes causes us to succeed and survive. Others say that Hashem helped.
You each say that based on what you ALREADY thought. It is a counter-measure that will leave you EXACTLY where you started. You are not proving anything, because you’re relying on you own convictions and you don’t seem to have convinced the others of those basic beliefs.
I’m personally not so much agnostic as possessing my own individual opinions about individual things that don’t always conform with the party line.
June 28, 2013 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm in reply to: Meet Cindy�R. Shafran on the Israel draft situation #962306writersoulParticipantBut even by your rationale it’s not. You’re saying that they CANNOT work. R Shafran says that Cindy DOESN’T WANT TO work.
Your situation will attract a lot more sympathizers than Cindy’s.
writersoulParticipantIf OURTorah wants to maybe instead make a comparison to the war with shevet Binyamin over the pilegesh beGivon, or the war with shevent Efrayim (sh vs s), or just malchus Yehuda and malchus Yisrael, that would probably fit better.
writersoulParticipantjewishfeminist: To be completely honest, I never actually tried out after I heard that they film on Shabbos (I found this information on the website- I could theoretically have misread, and maybe it’s a recent development, but I remember getting a very strong impression)- I didn’t know they made allowances, and I didn’t think I would ASK or anything.
I’m still on the email list, though- maybe I’ll try out this time (you think my school would kick me out if I got on? 🙂 Then again, you probably need to be pretty and photogenic and not heavy…).
I’d honestly LOVE to go on. Especially since I’d be on the teen show, which would be extraordinarily easy except that I’m not exactly up to date on music and stuff.
June 28, 2013 1:17 am at 1:17 am in reply to: Meet Cindy�R. Shafran on the Israel draft situation #962301writersoulParticipantToi: the point isn’t whether the chareidim are right or not. The point is that R Shafran’s comparison is not a particularly fitting or good one.
writersoulParticipantrationalfrummie: There’s a general klal (or so I’ve learned) that rabbanim can argue with others of the same do but not with those of previous doros, probably due to the whole principle of yeridas hadoros. Note that all your examples are of rabbanim and poskim of the same tekufah.
Actually, I don’t mean dor as in generation, but rather as in, like I said, a tekufah. An acharon can’t argue with a baal Tosafos, and a baal Tosafos can’t argue with Chazal, but the baal Tosafos can argue with another baal Tosafos.
If this isn’t true, tell that to my halacha rebbe- he tested us on this.
writersoulParticipantIt’s funny- I watch stuff on YouTube all the time, but I didn’t think so much about it. I really should.
One thing is that while the things I usually watch are famous and are put out by major companies that make millions off the people who actually buy the stuff (which, in my somewhat dubious system of rationalizing, is more okay), I remember reading that the makers of Ushpizin were actually having a really hard time because of illegal piracy, so I probably would buy it, as it’s a yid’s parnassah.
I should really rethink all of this…
writersoulParticipantMy father and I have a joke that if we went on together we would win- I know all the random history and literature facts and he knows all of the old pop culture facts (along with a very decent command of the other topics as well).
I wanted to try out (there’s an online test they give every March) but the show is filmed on Shabbos.
writersoulParticipantIMHO, jewishfeminist02 and HaKatan are both right. While the number of gay people will not increase (obviously), the number of people who publicly identify as gay and are proud of it will increase.
I don’t think that the OU, or anyone else, has any reason or necessity to go out and protest at all. They can’t change anything and once the law is made, considering that it’s a nationwide law and not Jewish-specific, why is it really our business? If Jewish men or women want to marry each other in a Jewish ceremony and have it be a Jewish wedding, this Supreme Court ruling is not going to make it any more mutar.
writersoulParticipantLuna: that’s a bit too post-to-post 🙂
writersoulParticipantHEY!
What was THAT for?!?
writersoulParticipantI can’t relate, because I live in Monsey, where a public sidewalk in a residential area is pretty rare (okay, it depends where you live) and kids use chalk on their own driveways. Whether it’s against the law in NYC I don’t know. But really, measure how bothered you really are by it. If it’s a really, REALLY big deal to you, measure your priorities and make sure you’re focused on the right things.
The law is the city’s business. How you react to inane things is yours.
writersoulParticipant‘Course not! So what do YOU think happens next? 🙂
writersoulParticipantSam2: “Rabbi Altusky was trying to persuade a young man to stay in Yeshiva. Don’t take what he said literally.”
Wait, so because it’s just a sales pitch, he’s allowed, depending on what you mean by this statement, to either lie about the best thing to do or to guide someone wrongly?
Baruch atah Hashem…she’asani kirtzono. Or rather baruch atah Hashem… that I go to a school where they don’t brainwash (yet- I’m not in twelfth yet).
writersoulParticipantjewishfeminist: While I haven’t yet read or heard anything like that, unfortunately I can definitely see it happening.
benignuman: Yeah, that’s a bit what I was saying. But did he say why the kohen gene is different from the levi gene? Aharon is a patrilineal descendant of Levi. They should have the same mutations on the Y chromosomes.
writersoulParticipantOnce you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
writersoulParticipantwritersoulParticipantbenignuman: Interesting- hadn’t heard that.
I’d already had some serious issues with that theory, as you may have picked up.
It’s interesting, though- you know the kohen gene? So apparently it follows through as far as kohanim go, showing a common ancestor of all kohanim at around the time of Aharon haKohen, but it seems that there is no such commonality for leviim. Which is strange, as logically, shouldn’t it be the same gene since Aharon is a patrilineal descendant of Levi?
Then again, the number of leviim would logically be greater than the number of kohanim and their role without a Bais HaMikdash is less defined, meaning that a mutation is more likely to gunk up the works and that leviim are more likely to lose track of their identity, which could lead to non-leviim self-identifying as leviim and leviim not knowing what they are.
Just my musings, for what they’re worth.
rationalfrummie: I also dumped half the spice cabinet in… 🙂 But I do definitely recommend adding BBQ sauce. I like Original flavor, but my dad likes Bold. I also tend to put in garlic when I do BBQ sauce, which gives it a kind of a sweetish spicyish flavor that’s really, really amazing.
writersoulParticipantWIY: I know, you’re totally talking to Mademoiselle Marriage Expert here, but I don’t think that going into a marriage thinking like that is really going to get you anywhere.
The Chofetz Chaim (I believe) actually talks about the concept of eizer kenegdo. A wife is supposed to be an eizer, a helper, but also, when the husband needs it, she should be kenegdo, against him, if he is on the wrong path.
The words eizer kenegdo are by no means a permission slip to become the autocrat in the house and expect your wife to be nice and sweet to you if you aren’t EXACTLY the same to her.
And you’ll find that shalom bayis will be much greater if you don’t critique her food unless she asks/gives you permission.
writersoulParticipantayayashreichem: Fair point… got sidetracked. With OOM’s agreement, I think this thread should be diverted back on course. (We weren’t talking about anything that important, anyway :). )
As far as Harry Potter is concerned, I think that anyone could read 1-3. 4-7 you can use your discretion for.
Though it’s funny, I was at a Pesach hotel and a couple of kids were talking to a caretaker there. They were mentioning how their parents said that if they behaved for some thing, they would be able to watch the first movie. The guy immediately began to tell them all about how Harry Potter is full of witchcraft and dark magic and how he doesn’t let his kids read it. The kids were all “wow! Dark magic?!?! Cool!” Then the guy started laughing and said, “Wow, and all this time I’m stricter than the Orthodox Jews about something!”
Okay, so it didn’t REALLY make sense, but he thought it was hysterical, especially after working at a hotel full of people in weird clothes who go completely anal about the weirdest things… to think he’s stricter than them. The whole scene was quite funny.
writersoulParticipantThe lyrics to Yesh Tikva are in the description of the YouTube video. This is what they’ve got over there:
Lyrics:
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English Lyrics translated by Rabbi Eli Freidman
Look around, far and near
Where’s the joy, where’s the cheer
Why the fear, why the frown
Why the smile upside down
Shake yourself from the dust
Scrape your soul from the rust
Know that this too shall pass
For in G-d we trust
There is hope
If we sing our hope together
We have faith that is stronger than the terror
No despair, no dismay
Everything will be okay
He is with us night and day
Brother dear
Dry your tears
Take my hand, never fear
Let’s advance, side by side
And let’s cast our fright aside
Don’t forget all the love
That we have from Above
And you’ll see with the dawn
All the pain will be gone
ETA: Just realized I didn’t really help you figure the second chorus out- and I can’t even listen to it myself to figure it out :(. Sorry…
writersoulParticipantDon’t blink. Blink and you’re dead.
writersoulParticipantOh, okay, maybe. I can definitely see what you’re saying.
I’m not saying this is your tayna per se, but I don’t really care how much it’s Sherlock Holmes. I just like it in general. We just have different tastes, which I hope is okay :).
writersoulParticipantrationalfrummie- you don’t ask, you see if she does it on her own.
If she doesn’t, then
a) she doesn’t like to bake
b) she’s not a giving person
or
c) she doesn’t read the Yeshiva World Coffee Room. By far the most fair and logical assumption.
OOM: To be fair, his last sentence makes it seem like he wouldn’t be TOO devastated and heart-broken if someone told him his food needed salt :).
My thing was pretty much just meant in general.
writersoulParticipantOkay, so I’d forgotten about this one until it hit the top of the page again. (The cholent came out great, incidentally, thanks for asking. The secret is a lot of BBQ sauce. DON’T SAY ANYTHING- it works.)
Basically, the reason why I asked is because I was reading this whole article (Jewish) about mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), which is only passed from mother to children and is therefore a relatively reliable way to track matrilineal descent (as is the Y chromosome for patrilineal descent, the difference being that you can track a man’s matrilineal descent but not a woman’s patrilineal descent). So this article mentioned that in studies of Ashkenazi mtDNA (we Ashkenazim seem to interest scientists a lot- should we be flattered? 🙂 ) they discovered that there are four types of mtDNA found in Ashkenazim. The article hypothesized that these four are the imahos.
That didn’t make sense to me, first of all because it’s matrilineal, so the mtDNA would actually be that of whomever the shevatim married and not their mothers. So if they really did marry their sisters or something, that wouldn’t be a problem, except that a) there have been geirim (both male and female) who would contribute their own mtDNA and b) Rachel and Leah were sisters (same mother) so they would have the same mtDNA- Bilhah and Zilpah had the same father but not necessarily the same mother so they could possibly have different mtDNA.
Anyone have any insights of how this should work or does this theory go definitely into the trash can?
writersoulParticipantCheck out the Tannersville area.
Are you looking for family friendly? If so, Kaaterskill Falls was great, but I don’t know if they have a campsite.
writersoulParticipantI know people who bike from Monsey and Queens.
Just a quick idea, maybe check the list of people in Bike4Chai 2013 and see if you know any of them. Since I’d assume that they’re practicing a LOT (I know three people in it and they bike all over the place), they probably know some good routes.
Also, while you’re there, donate a couple bucks :).
writersoulParticipantbenignuman: You think that people like everyone in their political organization? If that was a prereq for membership, membership would go WAAAAY down.
writersoulParticipantOOM: Like I’ve said, I never saw that one, but based on my knowledge of its plot, the elements that wouldn’t pass the censor here are pretty much not in the other episodes.
To the best of my knowledge, the others are much better. (I’ve seen the first three and the last one. You can really watch them in any order, though I’d say leave the last one for the end.)
As far as Hitchhiker’s Guide went, I thought that the plot was a bit disjointed (like, what was the point of that guy with the metal spider leg thingies?) and I wasn’t overly fond of the peple who played Trillian and Zaphod. And the ending was kind of a cop-out.
There were definitely parts of it that I absolutely loved. And like I said, the trailer was hysterical.
writersoulParticipantWIY: If she ASKS for your opinion, then fine. But if you’re dating, and she thinks it’s going great, and she decides to take time out of her day to make you a batch of her favorite chocolate chip cookies, and you taste one and your first reaction is “too sweet,” then sorry, but that goes beyond honest critique. There’s a time and place for everything.
writersoulParticipantOkay, people.
I was born in October. For the purposes of this discussion, I will say that I was one of the smarter kids in the class.
In my first grade class (which was grouped ENTIRELY RANDOMLY), we had four reading groups. I was in the highest group. (Actually, I knew how to read already, but that doesn’t matter, because since I was a tiny little five year old when school started I MUST have been intimidated by all those big six-year-olds who didn’t know how yet just because they were a few months older than me.) With me in that group, if I remember correctly, were girls born in August, October, December, March, and probably a bunch more equally scattered around the calendar.
Look, intuitively, what you’re saying makes sense. BUT:
– schools don’t typically point out to the other kids which are older and which are younger. No kid is going to be, “Yenty is older than me, so I’ll never be able to read like her!”
– check out reading groups in school, and see if the higher groups REALLY have more older kids. Maybe they do, but I’d be skeptical.
– what you’re really saying is track the kids, so that the “dumber” kids don’t have to be discouraged by the “smarter” kids. I have my issues with tracking, but this is quite frankly the stupidest way to track kids I have ever heard of. Unless the classes are shuffled after a while, considering that if the lower class really has some less intelligent kids than the older one it really will move more slowly, if there are the occasional “smart kids” shoved into that lower class SOLELY because they are on the younger end of the scale, they are now permanently stuck in the “lower” class.
The merits and pitfalls of tracking in general are discussed much more effectively in other forums by more qualified people than I, but this is merely another method, and one a lot more arbitrary. There are plenty of smarter kids born in January and November, just as there are plenty of “dumber” kids born in February and October. By mixing the classes by “developmental level,” you are setting the younger kids- placed in the lower class by a fluke of birth at a permanent disadvantage by putting them in a class that will always move more slowly if the kids are really not at the same level.
Do you always want your kids sheltered and not facing challenges? Do you really only want your kid to see people like him/her? (Oh, right, this is a frum audience. But still.) In life, we need to deal with people of all types and learn in all types of conditions.
I’m too tired to really think of more stuff, but while I think that in theory this is a good idea, and while I think that it may not be so bad to use birth month as a criteria for class placement without giving a thought to the academics, a kid is not doomed to failure for seeing an older or smarter kid doing better than he/she does. And that smarter kid may easily not be older.
Signed, an October baby who did quite well for herself.
writersoulParticipantPBA: While I haven’t yet met my future kids, I don’t think they will be serving yours French fries. But if it makes you feel cool to say so, then whatever.
Anyway, if they did do a study like that then sure. I’d love to see it. But for the purposes of this discussion, we don’t yet know that for sure.
And seriously, NONE of your arguments fight for separating kids by age in the SAME grade- if they’re all capable of doing it at age six, then it shouldn’t make a difference about the class configuration. Your argument seems to be to double the number of grades and make smaller grade increments- a COMPLETELY different idea (and one which, upon further reflection, actually could make sense). If that’s not what you meant, it’s really what your arguments look like. Putting kids into a different class where they don’t have the pressure but learn the SAME EXACT THINGS doesn’t make sense, because if they’re all capable of learning the same things at the same pace then the point is moot. If not, then as I said in my FIRST post you’re only furthering the educational gap.
And by the way, I also read in a book that tracking leads to serious issues among students. (Actually, I could probably find you the title if I look around- I did this topic for a school debate assignment- but still, your anonymous sources are worth just as much as mine are.)
writersoulParticipantPBA: But a good teacher makes sure the kids understand. If the older kids are actually smarter, then they’ll naturally move ahead more quickly- unless you’ll want them to artificially stop.
You have also not presented an iota of proof that a few months’ difference really makes a kid smarter.
All I can say is that in my elementary school class, the valedictorian was born in October (younger end) and the salutatorians were born in December (older end) and August. (None of them were me, btw.)
Are there statistics that show that kids born in the later months actually perform at a lower level than older kids? I’ve never seen it, and while I’d say that Gladwell’s not a great source because he cherry-picks, I don’t seem to remember him even mentioning a classroom component in Outliers.
writersoulParticipantDY: And then what? Does that mean you should hold them back and prevent them from achieving as much as the smarter kids? Besides, weaker students don’t always benefit from only being in a class with weaker students- you have to deal with all kinds of people in your life. The same goes for the stronger students.
And remember, Gladwell’s theory is about physical development, in which case it makes a lot of sense that a kid who has 6 more months to grow would be bigger and bulkier than a younger kid. But plenty of smart people were born in July and on- in fact, chances are, it’s pretty close to 50% (if you comb through the records and it’s significantly different, MAYBE we’ll talk).
writersoulParticipantnisht: EEEEWWW.
That’s disgusting.
Yes, that’s definitely YOUR read on things.
That was NOT necessary.
writersoulParticipantYITZCHOK2: Please, not that again…
writersoulParticipantOhhh, I loved him in Hitchhiker’s Guide also, though I hated the movie itself. When the trailer is light-years better than the movie, you know you’re in trouble. But he was Arthur Dent, that’s all there is to it.
But you should really give Sherlock another chance. Happens to be I’ve never seen that episode, but at least try it from the first one. It’s REALLY good.
Why don’t you like it?
writersoulParticipantI’m pretty sure Yeshiva Ketana of Passaic and possibly other large schools already do this, presumably for logistical reasons.
FTR, that would completely backfire, because if you’re really separating them because the older kids will do better, once the classes are separated, the older kids will continue to do better and the gap will only get even bigger. I happen to be a year-end baby and if I’d ended up in the weaker class or the class below I would’ve gone BALLISTIC long before now.
And Gladwell is a total hedgehog. He’s a fantastic journalist but I hate his books.
writersoulParticipantIra Rennert has contributed millions to frum people and organizations. My mom, through her work, has worked with him in giving money to several yeshivos and thousands of yeshivaleit in Israel.
writersoulParticipantI don’t know where you live, but is there a community college in your area?
In Monsey, I know of a bunch of people (and no, I don’t know Lipa Schmeltzer) who to go Rockland Community College either for Associate’s degrees in their chosen professions or as a stepping stone.
What’s good about it is that you pay by the credit and not by the semester- you can just take one class now and you’ll have those credits for the rest of your life.
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