WolfishMusings

Englishman,

Whether she “deserves” a get or not is irrelevant to this case. Even if it was 1000% warranted, it’s still no excuse to kidnap and beat people.

The Wolf

It may be a mitzvah, but it may also be a mitzvah habah b’aveira.

Mod-80,

This is *exactly* what I was talking about. This poster seems to have no problem labeling the act of inviting other couples to a meal as an aveira and, by extension, those of us who do so as avaryanim (sinners). How is that not meant to make someone feel guilty?

Sorry, when people call me a sinner, I feel the need to defend myself.

The Wolf

someone can tell you you should conduct yourself anyway he would like.

So, then, you have no problem with me making statements such as that everyone must dress up in bumblebee costumes because my Rav said so?

The Wolf

And there you have it, ladies and gentleman. Another horror story related right here in the CR.

And I know someone who was severely injured when, while riding his bike to work, was hit by a car.

Yet another horror story related right here in the CR. Shall we now also ban biking?

The Wolf

If I took him into the women’s room, I’d probably get arrested.

I assumed you were talking about a woman. After all, if the question were about a male parent and a male child, we wouldn’t be having this conversation at all, correct?

The Wolf

Yes, I would estimate 95% of divorces are criminal

Since divorce is not illegal in any state in the US, I would estimate that 0% of divorces in the US are criminal.

I would also estimate that 73.6% of statistics are completely made up.

On a serious note, there is no iron clad rule here. Sometimes a divorce is better and sometimes staying together is better. Every case is different and no general rules can really be applied.

It should be pointed out that I am frum today because of a divorce. Of course, some people would consider me not frum anyway, but that’s a separate issue.

The Wolf

Maybe it’s a bigger chillul HaShem to go into a theater.

Bigger than my very existence? I doubt it.

The Wolf

And he got a Kappara anyway.

Yes, but not through his teshuva, but rather other means. If he did teshuva, it was not accepted.

You’re equating “got a kappara” with “teshuva was accepted.” They are not the same.

The Wolf

we still quote him in Pirkei Avos, I don’t think we would quote someone that didn’t get a kaparah for what he did

We also quote Bilaam.

The Wolf

It is a basic tenet of Judaism (and there are also scores of examples in Jewish history and literature) that ANY evildoer can repent and achieve atonement for his sins however many or degraded they are.

Except Acher, of course.

The Wolf

Quite a few people know who I am. Since I hold the same opinions IRL that I do here, it’s no big deal.

The Wolf

Not necessarily does every frum person speak Yiddish. I for one would stare at you blankly, not necessarily a good litmus test.

If your premise is “speaks Yiddish” = “good person” then it’s a great litmus test.

I guess that means that us “perverts” who don’t understand Yiddish are dangerous to children.

The Wolf

Englishman: “As bad as a strip joint”

Well, you know, Kanga (the only female character in the Winnie the Pooh movies) does spend the entire movie without any clothes… 🙂

The Wolf

(For those who don’t know — Kanga is a kangaroo.)

How could Hashem do this to a little child???

Isaiah 55:8.

The Wolf

Normal people dont take little girls into mens bathrooms no matter how young

You’re entitled to your opinion. I disagree with you.

The Wolf

Wolf – Well, he thinks your priorities are mixed up.

You don’t know that. It’s possible that he simply didn’t think of the potential danger and that, if he was made aware of it, would agree with me.

Or do you claim to know the person in question?

The Wolf

He obviosly felt that it is a bigger problem taking the girl into a “mens room”.

If he thought taking his five year old daughter into the men’s room is a bigger problem than leaving her with a total stranger, then, IMHO, his priorities are completely mixed up.

the question was is a 10 year old old enough to wait outside alone while his parent is inside?

I believe that most 10 year olds are capable of waiting outside for a few minutes.

And what is the cutoff age?

It will vary from kid to kid, depending on their maturity.

The Wolf

Wolf – What would you have done better in this scenario?

Take the kid with you. Yes, that’s right — take a five year old girl with you into the men’s room. Have her keep her eyes closed if you must.

The Wolf

youre all making the case for why its mutar

I did nothing of the kind.

The Wolf

So everyone should be paranoid about everyone else and hold unto their child until he or she is 13?

No. Unfortunately, sometimes things happen despite our best efforts to prevent them.

In addition, at some point you have to let your kids grow up and be independent. What that time is depends on the age and maturity of the child and what the activity in question is.

But, on the other hand, you should not be taking unnecessary risks — and leaving your kids with strangers (even if they look frum) is a definite risk.

The Wolf

I hate to say this, but I’ve been railing about this point for a LONG time. In fact, back in 2006, I posted on my blog about an incident that happened to me at the Museum of Natural History. A man was there with his two young children (a boy and a girl, IIRC) and needed to use the restroom.

I was waiting outside the restroom area because Eeees was in the bathroom and I was waiting for her to return before we went on to see the rest of the museum. While I was waiting, this gentleman asks me to watch his young daughter (perhaps about four or five years old) while he went into the bathroom. As I said about it on my blog:

Just because I’m wearing a white shirt, kippah, slacks and have four days’ growth on my face and chin* does not mean that your child is safe with me. How could you possibly think of leaving your child with a stranger, even if only for a minute? Just because I’m Jewish as you are doesn’t mean that I couldn’t be a psychotic murderer or kidnapper. (For the record, I’m not!) Consider yourself lucky that it was me and that your kid was there when you got back.

The Wolf

* It was chol hamoed Pesach.