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I am so fortunate that my wife gets along beautifully with both of her mothers-in-law (my mother and my father’s wife) and has since day one. Indeed, one of the things I truly give thanks to Heaven above for.
My mother considers both her daughter-in-law and son-in-law as her own children.
The Wolf
Tarid B’Melachto (just like a lifeguard, doctor, etc.)?
The Wolf
Now that the ger topic is closed (finally!)
Conveniently before you could answer the question I put to you.
The Wolf
To everyone bashing Gerrer chassidim: If husband and wife both agree to and want this lifestyle, then why do you even care? It’s their own personal life and you don’t have any right to interfere.
I’m not bashing them. Heck, a few months ago, there was another thread where I basically said the same thing you did.
My dog in this fight is not that Gerrer couple shouldn’t lead the lifestyle they like. My interest in this argument is in the aspect that was presented that my home is lacking in kedusha and tahara on the basis of the fact that I actually touch my wife once in a while.
The Wolf
You standard is what you were mekabul from your rabunnim.
… but keep in mind that the standard you were mekubal from yoru rabbanim is lacking in kedusha and tahara. Or at least that’s the message.
The Wolf
I believe I’ve answered your question.
I don’t believe you did. You simply gave an unsourced four word statement. Nonetheless, if your does explain it, then I ask you further explain it, since I obviously did not get it.
Once again (just for sake of clarity) my question (which you claimed to answer) was as follows:
Why does my holding my wife’s hand in the privacy of our home mean that my home is completely and utterly lacking in kedusha and tahara.
Thank you in advance,
The Wolf
Actually, I looked it up and it says the sequences in Kansas were shot in black and white, but the sequences in Oz were shot in technicolor, and that is how it remains today.
Actually, it was sepia, not black and white (yeah, I know… picky, picky).
One of the great moments in the film is right after the house lands in Oz. The film is still in sepia until she opens the door. Anything outside the door is in color while the rest of the house is still colored in sepia.
If you’re curious as to how they did that in the late 1930s, the scene was shot in color. The set (including the dress that Dorothy was wearing) was sepia-colored.
The Wolf
I cant wish them a good shabbos. Or can I?
Why not? If I see someone on Friday and I know I’m not going to see them again until after Shabbos starts (or even finishes), I wish them a “good Shabbos.”
If you can do that when it’s a weekday for everyone, why can’t you do it when it’s only a weekday for one?
The Wolf
Chosson… I’m still waiting for an answer to my question. Should I take your silence as an indication that you don’t have one?
The Wolf
In places where it is socially acceptable to eat those foods with one’s hands (which is just about everywhere), it would be unrefined to NOT eat them with one’s hands.
Do *you* think it’s more refined to eat a hamburger with a fork and knife? Can you name a single gadol anywhere who eats the Korech sandwich at the seder with a fork and knife? Can you name any who eat cookies with silverware?
Interestingly enough, the ridiculousness of what you posit was the subject of a Seinfeld episode, where the characters start eating Snickers bars with a fork and knife.
The Wolf
Down the memory hole.
(Yes, I know that I’m an apikorus for referencing a goyishe novel.)
The Wolf
We can judge ur coffeeroom personality
Well, based on my coffeeroom personality, I would freak out more_2. Isn’t someone who would freak out someone a horrible person?
The Wolf
I don’t say it, but then again, I wouldn’t go by anything I do considering the fact that I am (according to Chosson) without kedusha and taharah.
The Wolf
I rarely drink coffee, so no.
The Wolf
Um, does anyone here on coffeeroom think the Wolf is accurate in his self analysis?
Considering the fact that no one on these boards (aside from myself) knows me personally, how could anyone (again, aside from me) possibly know whether it’s accurate or not?
The Wolf
because I think ur so smart and awesome
Thank you for the kind words and concern.
even tho ur kidding.
I am not kidding. If I were, I would make it clear with the use of a smiley or in some other obvious way.
The Wolf
but for a husband and wife to hold hands albeit only at home is contrary to kedusha and tehara
This is *exactly* what I asked you to explain.
Why does my holding my wife’s hand in the privacy of our home mean that my home is completely and utterly lacking in kedusha and tahara.
*Please* explain.
The Wolf
A random hello would freak me out! Good shabbos is parev for anyone random that you don’t know but hello is too freakishly personal… If you know them then fine but if you don’t please don’t start saying hi to people you don’t know, it’s better not to say anything If it’s assur to ash good shabbos…;)
You know, I say “hello” to just about everyone and anyone I meet.
But then again, we’ve already established that I’m a horrible person who is, at best, a naval b’rushus haTorah and more likely just a plain old evil, rotten person, so I guess what I do doesn’t really matter anyway.
The Wolf
In Europe before the war, you were a member of the kehila of the town you lived in.
I’m sorry… perhaps I wasn’t really clear. I was asking for the definition of a kehilla today, primarily as it applies to an urban place with a mixed populace.
The Wolf
Chosson,
I’m still waiting for you to reply to my previous question to you. You commented:
You don’t appreciate the kedusha and tehara of the Gerrer Chassidim, Ok I understand you.
My question to you on this was:
Why is my home any less filled with kedusha and tahara because I choose to hold hands with my wife in our home? What is it about a married couple holding hands that is so intrinsically lacking in kedusha and tahara that a Gerrer home is so much more filled with it than mine on that basis alone?
Please answer the question.
The Wolf
Another modern deviation. Assur.
It’s assur for me to clean, cook or do laundry?
Oh well… just another sign of the disgusting, horrible excuse for a human being that I have become.
The Wolf
why about animals like, squirrels, and cats have to be in this world,.. any ideas?
Study the concepts of the food chain and ecological niches.
The Wolf
First, define “kehilla.” Is it based on geographic placement? Socialogical self-identification?
If I live in Boro Park next to a Satmar shul, does that make me a part of the Satmar kehilla, even if I self-identify with a different hashkafah? What if I don’t self-identify with any particular movement?
Please define “kehilla” before we go any further with this conversation?
The Wolf
Elaborate, you mean to say washing laundry, cooking and claening up?
I do all those things and I’m not a house-husband.
The Wolf
Heh. When I proposed to Eeees, I used a candy ring. 🙂 (… and she said “yes.”)
The Wolf
How did you teach them that?;)
Whenever they said that they were bored, we found something for them to do — dishes, clean up, etc.
It didn’t necessarily stop them from ever becoming bored… but they never complain to us about it. 🙂
The Wolf
In my home, my kids have learned to never tell us that they are bored. 🙂
The Wolf
How about simply “hello?”
The Wolf
A person cannot disregard the minhagim of his kehilla.
That doesn’t mean that some of them, nonetheless, do, including the person that 2cents mentioned.
The Wolf
Give her a bracha anyway by text. What do you have to lose?
If it’s effective, then she has the bracha. If it’s not, you’ve (and she’s) lost nothing except the cost of the text message.
You can always re-give the bracha again when you see her in person.
The Wolf
Then it also stands to reason that there are more Roshei Yeshivos and Gedolim then their used to be
Not if the yeshivos themselves are growing and if the yeshivos have the same number of RY as they did in the past.
After all, we have many more people in New York than we had 200 years ago, but we still only have one governor and two US Senators.
The Wolf
I think that’s totally wrong to say that do u want ppl to say well hay there r much more ppl living now so y shld we care so much if something happens to one of them? no that’s just the wrong way to think
besides for the fact that they r great ppl
Please do us a favor and at least attempt to use proper spelling and grammar?
Thanks,
The Wolf
The Best segula is go see a doctor who knows how to turn the baby around in the womb.
Next you’ll be telling me that the best segulah for clean hands is using soap and water.
The Wolf
Would someone who works to stop anyone from doing Metzitzah B’Peh by all Bris Milah’s, be considered a rasha?
If someone knew the mohel had a herpatic infection in his mouth, the act of *not* attempting to stop him from performing MPB by all Brissim would (IMHO) make him a rasha.
The Wolf
i think gerrer marriages are the happiest.
I would say Chasidish marriages are much happier than others.
I think that purple is the prettiest color and I would say that more coffee is consumed (per capita) by people named “Ed” than by any other name.
The Wolf
So if the Rabbi of your shul came in on Shabbos with a light blue and pink pattern Izod brand, button down shirt given to him as a gift, it is all the same to you?
I might ask him about him about it, because it’s unlike him, but I would not assume that he is any more or less frum because he changes his shirt color.
In general, to you clothing has no effect? It’s just for utilitarian reasons?
No, I agree that there are times and occasions when certain clothing is called for. But, again, that does not necessarily reflect on the religious feelings of the person wearing the clothes.
The Wolf