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Why do couples have to go out to have a date night? As lovely as it sounds.. doesn’t seem practical. Id rather sit in my sweatshirt and fuzzy slippers and play taboo. Or eat smores and talk on our rocking chairs on the front porch. Still requires effort to keep up, but more do-able.
If that works for you and your marriage, then fine — that’s what you should do. For others, however, they might want to get out of the house.
The Wolf
1. Wish for an infinite number of wishes.
What? That’s not allowed? I can’t wish for more wishes? Okay.
1. Wish for an infinite number of genies.
What? That’s also not allowed? Okay.
1. Wish for a redefinition of the word “three.”
The Wolf
Nevertheless, Klass endorsed Jimmy Carter in ’76
How about *Rabbi* Klass?
The Wolf
OP — just to make sure you’re clear — all this discussion regarding being a mamzer has absolutely no effect on you.
The Wolf
Or do my prayers fall on deaf ears.
Your prayers do not fall on deaf ears — Jewish or not.
The Wolf
I didn’t see this line when I first responded. I’ll give the matter some thought.
The Wolf
Shomer negiah only makes a difference before marriage? That’s news to me!
His point is that after his marriage, he can touch his wife (barring niddah issues, of course)
The Wolf
I don’t know your age and how many kids you have, however I can only imagine that a young couple would have a night a week to go out
It doesn’t have to be once a week. Once every other week or even once a month is fine… as long as you make sure to have some time together.
The Wolf
Yekke: It’s Pashtus in the Passuk.
No it’s not. The passuk could also be interpreted to mean that mankind had only 120 years left before the flood.
The Wolf
It is obviously not true.
Jeanne Calment lived a very documented life and lived to the age of 122, passing away in 1997.
What? Non-Jewish record keeping is not good enough for you?
How about Yehoyada, a Kohen in the time of the Bayis Sheini who lived to 130?
Either way, it’s clear that there is no absolute 120-year limit in the post-Moshe Rabbeinu era.
The Wolf
Thanks popa, I saw that! Not a member but thanks for the idea.
I’m not popa, but you’re welcome. 🙂
The Wolf (who *is* a papa, but not MorahRach’s)
A quick Google search revealed that someone on Imamother took their professional chef program. If you’re a member of that board, you could ask her about her experiences.
The Wolf
sepharadim always do, but we never name a baby after her mother.
I think yankdownunder meant the mother naming the baby after *her* mother, not the baby’s mother.
The Wolf
Can a baby from an Ashkanazi family be named from a living grandparent?
It is clearly not against halacha, as Sephardim do it all the time. However, it is a *very* strong and well-established Ashkenazi minhag not to do so.
As always, if you *really* want to do so, ask your LOR.
The Wolf
anon1m0us,
🙂
The Wolf
Am I overly gullible or is this the actual mindset of main stream yeshivish?
The former, I’m afraid (or perhaps, thankful).
The Wolf
What information do you need?
Or, more specifically, what information do you need from us that you can’t get from spending a few minutes on their website?
The Wolf
If the money to provide ones son with a Talmudic Education is derived from Heaven and is not part of the ordinary allotment, why do the Yeshivas base tuition on a person’s income?
A person’s income which is allotted from Heaven has nothing to do with the SEPARATE amount he is granted for tuition. By basing tuition rates on income, it is going against this Gemarah!
You’re right. In fact, the yeshivos should charge $100,000 per student per year. This way, the rabbeim and teachers will certainly be paid the salary they deserve and the financial security of our yeshivos will be secured. And since the chesbon for Talmid Torah is not taken from the yearly allotment provided by HKBH, parents should have no reason to complain at all when asked to pay this amount.
The Wolf
You’re going about this all wrong, shmendrick. THEY should be paying YOU for the privilege of having such a great and esteemed tzaddik as a father-in-law. The kids should be working to support you in your great and holy work, not the other way around.
The Wolf
DaasYochid: I notice you are frequently up to date with pop culture. How are you so familiar with it?
Henny Youngman jokes are “up to date????”
The Wolf
How do I stop my wife spending??!
Why are you spending wives?
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
The Wolf
WolfishMusings, You can collect kulah from various rabbonim,
Perhaps you didn’t understand me the first time, so I’ll repeat it for you again.
When I have a question, I ask my rav. I don’t go “kula shopping.” I follow what my rav says — whether he’s machmir or meikel. My rav says that as long as you don’t have a minhag to not eat g’brokts, then eating it is fine. And my rav had no problem with giving my children more than one name.
If following *my* rav, as opposed to an anonymous internet poster makes me a “kula collector” in your eyes (even though it clearly doesn’t make me one), then all I have to say is that you need to have your eyes checked. If you think that I should ignore my rav to follow your chumros, then you are the wrong one, not I.
And that is my final word on the subject.
The Wolf
Right. As I said, your view of Shivim Panim is just like Henry Ford’s idea of choice of color on the Model-T.
Never mind the fact that many people have the 100% legitimate halachic minhag of eating g’brokts, you’re ready to throw them all under the bus (figuratively speaking, of course). R. Ya’akov Kaminetsky ZT”L, did not eat g’brokts for a personal reason (not having to do with the potential for eating chometz), but did so up to a certain point in his life AND allowed his family to do so even when he, himself, no longer did. Are you saying that R. Ya’akov Kaminetzky very likely allowed his family to eat chometz? The same goes for the Chasam Sofer and the Vilna Gaon, who also ate g’brokts.
No, but apparently you know better than R. Ya’akov, the Chasam Sofer, the Vilna Gaon and others who eat g’brokts. Too bad R. Ya’akov didn’t consult with you before allowing his family to eat g’brokts… you might have saved them from eating chometz on Pesach.
Ditto with regard to two or more names. Lots of gedolim and other learned people today give their children more than one name.
Personally, my approach has been as it always has been. If I have a question about something, I ask my Rav. I don’t take pointers from you regarding eating g’brokts, nor on naming my kids or anything else. If I have a question regarding my kids’ names, I will ask my Rav. I will NOT go according to anything you post. Ditto with g’rokts or any other issue.
If you don’t like it — too bad. And, if in your view, asking my rav is my own “daas Baal Habayis” then fine, I wear that badge with pride.
The Wolf
As such, it is VERY appropriate if this chumrah can be instituted – that as a general rule we should only give one name, subject to exceptions of sholom bayis / avoiding machlokes, tzorech godol, hefsed merubah, sha’as hadchak etc. But that should be the EXCEPTION, not the rule.
The more you post, the more I become convinced that every time you say that something is a “very appropriate chumra” to institute, the more I become convinced that the exact opposite is true.
Either that, or (more likely) you’re just throwing the most outrageous things you can think of out there and seeing what gets reacted to.
The Wolf
This is very serious, and it is a mitzvah to be mifarsem it to the tzibur!! The oneg Yom Tov of eating a matzah-ball comes at the actual risk of an issur d’oraysa!
Ah, so now you’re no longer content to just pick on the modern-Orhtodox crowd. Now you’re up to insinuation that anyone who eats g’brokts is very possibly eating chometz.
Your idea of Shivim Panim L’Torah is kind of like Henry Ford’s idea of choice of color for the model-T.
The Wolf
Don’t know.
If it bothers you that much, don’t give your kids more than one name.
The Wolf
I take short naps (< 2 hours) in my lenses all the time.
I fell asleep (for the night) with my lenses in once. My eyes were very dry in the morning. However, once I removed the lenses and moistened my eyes, I was fine.
The Wolf
Wearing gray and/or blue is stam being poetz geder, and as generations decline, following your derech of prikus ol of the black-white malbush, your grandchildren may wear orange and pink r”l. That can happen when we start making minor adjustments to “al titosh toras imecha”.
You just keep getting funnier and funnier.
First, people who use any new form of technology are a “porek ol” and “poretz gader” according to you (which, again, makes me think you would believe that the first Jews who read printed seforim had that status as well), and now people who wear colors are also “stam being poretz gader.”
You’re just a regular barrel of laughs. What’s next? People who drive as opposed to taking a horse-drawn cart as our forefathers did?
The Wolf
FWIW, I always wash on “mezonos rolls.” Unless, of course, I’m having them after eating “real” bread.
The Wolf (who is waiting for the “frummies’ on the board to give him grief for this.)
Wolf – “Why should it be any worse than using a paper book?”
Short answer: Tradition.
Ah, so had you been around 500 years ago, you would have opposed learning from printed seforim. You’d be there, standing on your soapbox (yes, I know that’s an anachronism) screaming about printed books that weren’t written by hand.
Yes, after a while the tradition evolves, especially after the porkay ol are poretz geder,
Apparently, according to you, the people who advocated learning from non-handwritten seforim were “porkay ol” and “poretz geder.”
Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?
The Wolf
Next thread: Learning from Kindel or Ipad in bais medresh…is anyone bothered by this?
Why should it be any worse than using a paper book?
The Wolf
Great point, Wolf. And the Native Americans are granted a measure of self-rule and sovereignty from the U.S. So your point must be that the Chareidim should be granted self-rule and sovereignty from the zionists.
I could not agree with you more.
So you think Yehoshua should have given self-rule rights to the Cannanites, right? 🙂
The Wolf
Would you address an important emperor or king or queen looking at your phone, or be on your job interview using your phone?
I wouldn’t address him looking down at a book either.
The Wolf
The chareidim lived in Eretz Yisroel before the zionists came.
Without actually addressing whether or not your statement is true or not….
And the Native Americans were in North America before the Europeans. And the aboriginals were in Australia before the Europeans.
So what?
The Wolf
Usually people disturbed by others don’t confront the person.
Perhaps, perhaps not.
However, that doesn’t prove that there was anyone who was disturbed. If you want to argue that people were disturbed, then the burden of proof is on you to show that there was someone who was disturbed by my use of my Ipad, not on me to show that no one was disturbed.
The Wolf
I recently davened Shacharis entirely from my Ipad for two days. No one told me that they were bothered by it.
The Wolf
Velvel, before putting me away in an aron, I will answer in Yeshivish shprach, the cheftzah of Torah is connected to a gavrah of Totah. The cheftza can indeed be placed in an aron but not a gavrah.
Hey, don’t blame me. You were the one who was haughty enough to say that he is a “living sefer Torah” and should be treated like one. If you want to make up forced interpretations to explain away the box you painted yourself into, that’s not my fault.
The Wolf
BTW – someone who learns in kollel is mamesh a cheftzah of Torah and should be treated like a sefer Torah.
Ah, so we should put you in the aron and leave you there until we need to open you up and read from your insides?
The Wolf
Jesus was a student of R’ Yehoshua ben Perachya.
No he wasn’t. Jesus lived about 100 years after RYBP.
Yes, the gemara records a student of RYBP who went bad — but clearly that’s not the same Jesus who is worshiped by Christians worldwide. It’s a different person altogether.
The Wolf
Wolf: That depends whether you hold of the Orthodox kratsmich or the Catholic kratsmich.
I don’t hold of either. I’m an apikorus of Christianity.
The Wolf
(I hope you have a Jewish name)
I find it incredibly ironic that someone with the screen name “shmendrik” (along with numerous other screen names that aren’t Jewish names) is castigating another poster for using a screen name that isn’t a Jewish name.
The Wolf
Well, not only did I learn tonight, but I even taught. Does that make me a chotei and a machati?
The Wolf?
I refuse top leave my cell on vibrate during davening. Just think – if it does ring, some percent (say 5%) of my brain is busy with “Who called?”, “What did they want?”, “Do I need to call back?”, etc. That’s 5% that is not available for my concentration to daven. That’s not ok.
I’m an old hand at ignoring my phone – especially when I drive and especially when I daven. 🙂 But if it’s going to disturb you as you describe, then by all means, turn it off.
The Wolf
I keep my phone on vibrate all the time, so it doesn’t disturb people during davening (or other times). In addition, I generally don’t take it out in shul.
The exception was the time I had my Ipad on the entire time during davening about two months ago.
The Wolf
I made an “everything (vegetable) soup” and broke the fast on that.
The Wolf
I believe that the jobs in question involved working for the “zionist” economy.
By that token, any job is forbidden, since the commercial activity generated by any job contributes to the economy. Likewise, they shoudn’t be allowed to go to the grocery and buy food, since it contributes to the “Zionist” economy.*
The Wolf
* And, of course, they consider Zionism to be avoda zara, so they should not be able to do so, even at the cost of their lives.
A tie may be “like” a tachshit/jewelry.
In what way?
The Wolf
Wolf, I don’t know how the moderators let these nasty, undeserved attacks against you through.
I don’t know about the moderators, but I can say this about the posters: there is a general atmosphere here that if you’re perceived as “less frum” than your disputant, you are free to say whatever you want, attribute whatever motives to him/her that you want and either imply or outright insult your disputant.
That is what is truly sad here.
The Wolf
Outreach,
If this is really a concern for you, contact your local Orthodox rabbi.
The Wolf
Whenever my wife and I go out on a date, I make sure she wears the most hideous clothing she has, so that she shouldn’t appear attractive at all.
Oh, wait… no, I don’t do that…
The Wolf (who is waiting for someone to come along and say that married people have no business dating).