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people who make comments and apply a generality to many people are trolls.
Eh, people who say that are trolls. 🙂
The Wolf
fivdy
I’ve told my kids a kajillion times not to make up numbers.
The Wolf
My parents are divorced. On top of that, my father is not frum. Fortunately for me, I didn’t need a shadchan. HKBH did the job for me.
OTOH, my sister (who has the very same parents that I do) managed to find a shidduch just fine — despite the fact that she also has me in the family.
The Wolf
hillary clinton
Where do you want her to go? She does not currently hold any office or appointment.
Bloomberg
He’ll be out of office soon enough anyway.
The Wolf
Wow. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen such a blabbering screed, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
More and more we see evidence of scientists proving to have personal agendas and falisfying data to promote those agendas.
Evidence for such a claim?
Of course, I’m not claiming that there aren’t scientific frauds. There are people who are frauds in every human endeavor, and science, in that regard, is no different. However, you seem to be claiming that the fraud is endemic and purposely built into and tolerated within the scientific community. If that’s the case, then please provide some recent evidence for this.*
They do not want to be bound by G-d or his laws so they will do and say anything and ‘find (supposed) evidence’ to support their agendas.
Mind read much?
This, of course, is silly, for two reasons. First of all, there are plenty of scienticts who *are* religious, church (or shul/mosque/whatever)-going people. I know of several myself. This is just an ad hominem attack.
In any event, it really doesn’t matter. Evolution stands or falls on the evidence, not the real or imagined motivations of a group of scientists.
They are educated in schools and universities where belief in G-D is hated and feared and ridiculed and where morality, it is taught, is ‘relative’ and that there is no such thing as absolute right and wrong.
You speak of colleges and groups of people as monolithic institutions where there is “one way” and no other. Of course, that’s not true. Are there people who are hostile to religion on college campuses (and even in positions of authority)? Sure. But there are also people who are not.
And, again, evolution stands or falls on the evidence, not the real or imagined policies of academic institutions.
One well known example of this is in the anti business anti prosperity agenda that tells us we can’t have private cars and can’t have many other things because they supposedly cause global warming.
The fact that they have been caught falisfying data and deliberately leaving out evidence that contradicts their agenda is dismissed as ‘insignificant’.
Being anti-business has nothing to do with evolution. Again, please provide a cite that data is being falsified on a systemic basis within the scientific community (as opposed to isolated instances).
Also even besides their agendas getting in the way of real scientific discovery, science is just not nearly as exact and infallible as evolutionists would have us believe.
Straw man. Science is not infallible. Indeed, the Scientific Method is predicated on the idea that it’s not infallible.
We can’t even predict todays weather accurately (or they would be able to tell us things like “today the city will get exactly .164 inches of rain which will start at exactly 4:39 PM and end 2 and one half hours later”
instead of “30% chance of light showers somtime in the afternoon” which actually wind up starting at 2 AM the next morning) but they expect us to believe that they know what the exact climate was, 250 million years ago.
Silly argument. Events that occur in the future are subject to variables which can alter events. That’s why no one guarantees the weather, but rather makes estimates based on models built upon data gleaned from previous observations. Weather in the past, however, leaves behind physical evidence that can tell us what the general climate was.
If science were so exact and infallible
Again, straw man. No one (except those making straw man arguments) says that it is.
we should need no witnesses in most murder cases.
The forensics should be plenty to gain a conviction when the suspect
actually committed the crime, no mattter what the witnessses all say an d no matter how good his alibi, is.
Oh, please. This is just silly.
One field of science (evolution) has very little or nothing to do with forensics.
Part of your problem is that you’re viewing the entire scientific community as monolithic, with one agenda, one master plan. The fact is that it just doesn’t work that way. Different branches of science have their own way of doing things. Different scientists within a discipline (and across them) have disputes all the time. There is no single person or group that “controls” science.
The Wolf
* And, please, don’t bring up Piltdown Man, Haeckel’s diagrams or any of the old stuff that has long been recognized as frauds. The fact that the scientific community has shown them to be frauds proves that there is an effort to weed that stuff out.
Do you only use the original, or do you have expansions?
Only the original. I only played my first game this past Yom Tov.
The Wolf
I find it pretty curious as to why would attempt to dispute this since Bible Critics usually take a different tack.
What doe this have to do with anything? I’m not a Bible Critic.
In any event, yes, I grant you that they are common… but that could also be accounted for in the fact that flooding is a phenomenon that most people would have been familiar with (as it happens in most parts of the globe) and, as such, they would have had myths to go with such events, just as they did for the sun, the moon and other natural phenomena.
The Wolf
even though virtually every single civilization
Define “virtually every civilization.” How many would I have to find that don’t have a flood story to disabuse you of this notion?
closely parallels the Torah’s account
Define “closely parallels.” How far (aside from “there was a flood and lots of people died”) would the story have to be to no longer qualify as “closely parallels?”
The Wolf
If my spouse introduces himself to me, I will marry him.(no,not just any Joe Shmoe – my SPOUSE).
Heh. That’s just what happened to me. Eees said “hi” to me one day in the library*. We’ve been together ever since.
The Wolf
* To set the record straight, we had met once before, about eight months earlier. She recognized me from that meeting.
MY FATHER DOESN’T PLAY MONEY GAMES ON SHABBOS AND YOM TOV EITHER.
Thank you.
1. Because your father does or does not do something does not make it right or wrong for anyone else.
2. There is no need to yell. Next time, please do not use ALL CAPS.
The Wolf
I spent some time this Yom Tov playing Munchkin with my kids, wife and nieces.
(By the way, want to cut down on the length of your Monopoly games? Play according to the rules re: Free Parking. By constantly adding money to the game whenever a player lands on it (as per usual house rules) you are unnecessarily prolonging the game.)
The Wolf
WolfishMusings I think your corrections are unwarranted. Someone who views Hashem as an infinite Wisdom indeed would capitalize His Name, but someone who presumes to ‘judge’ him (sort of like a cockaroach trying to figure out what that big human is doing on a computer) would not capitalize His Name.
Sad…
I disagree with your premise, but even if I agreed with it, I’d still be correct. The author of the paragraph I corrected was not the one who attempted to put God on trial.
The Wolf
FWIW, my in-laws were present at my aufruf.
The Wolf
As others have said, since a cousin is no less of an ervah than any other pinuyah, the same “lo siKrivu liGalos ervah” applies.
Actually, (barring niddah issues) neither is an ervah.
And lest you state that it is forbidden to talk to a cousin/unmarried woman because of one’s ervah status as a niddah), then it should be forbidden to talk to your own parent, sibling or child of the opposite gender, since they are intrinsically and permanently an ervah (unlike a cousin or otherwise unrelated, unmarried woman).
The Wolf
The Piaseczno Rebbe) lived near the exit to the Warsaw Ghetto. he saw the deportations daily to Treblinka (His only son was killed during the bombings of Warsaw) and he began to quesion god for this. he put god on trial and found him guilty.
I’m sorry… pet peeve of mine.
The proper capitalization in the quoted paragraph is as follows:
The Piaseczno Rebbe) lived near the exit to the Warsaw Ghetto. He saw the deportations daily to Treblinka (his only son was killed during the bombings of Warsaw) and he began to quesion God for this. He put God on trial and found Him guilty.
The Wolf
You don’t actually need to be born in the US to be eligible for the presidency. The child of an American diplomat serving in Paris who is born there is eligible (provided, of course, he meets the other requirements) because he was a citizen of the US at birth. The same holds true for Cruz.
The Wolf
When my wife and I were dating, there was no “online,” so I can’t say anything about that. However, we met in a way that the OP would likely consider just as (or possibly even more) scandalous — we met on our own.
Personally, I fail to see what business it is of the OP’s how his friend met his kallah. And as for his kids, I fail to see what the big deal is. Is he afraid that his kids are going to find out that some people don’t use formal shidduch dating? Are his kids currently unaware that there are Jews that aren’t Shomer Shabbos? Is he going to keep that fact from them forever? If so, there is nothing wrong with him telling his kids “Yes, they met online, but that’s not the way we do it…”
I recall a poster on these boards a while back who told me that I was required to divorce my wife because we didn’t meet through a formal shadchan. When I refused, he told me that I should ask a shaila. When I told him that I’m not going to bother my rav with such a silly question, he accused me of cowardice.
The Wolf
One of my favorite quotes. Also one of my son’s favorites, now that he’s twenty.
The Wolf
As the parent of a 20 year old, 18 year old and 17 year old who all live at home, I might have an insight or two into this.
The first thing you have to realize is that, at 18, your child *is* an adult and does *not* have to listen to you. This may be hard for you to internalize — after all, you’ve watched over them from birth when they were helpless and seen them at their stupidest. It’s perfectly natural to think of your children grown children as “still children” and that, as a parent, you know better*.
But the fact is that, at this point, they’re already raised. They are their own person, not a “little you.” Their ideas may be different than yours, their values may be different than yours and their personalities may be different than yours — and you have to learn to accept that. Your job as the shaper of your child’s personality is pretty much over. Yes, you can still shape it by example, but that’s pretty much it.
As such, you have to allow them the freedom to do things their own way, even if you don’t necessarily agree with that way. It’s painful sometimes, but it’s what you have to do.
I read something a while back, which stayed with me. It stated that, as your children approach their teenage years, your job as a parent changes from that of management to one of sales. I would further add that, as your teenager becomes an adult, your job changes from sales to adviser.
Of course, all that does not mean that you don’t have the right to set certain rules within your own home. You absolutely do have that right. However, they have to be rules that your child can understand and accept. They have to be reasonable and have more of a basis than “because I said so.”
For example, our twenty year old does not have a curfew. He did at seventeen and eighteen, but, as he became older, we had to learn to relax that restriction. (Part of what made it easier was trying to remind myself of how I would have felt at that age with that restriction.) However, he does know that if he’s going to be very late, he has to call or text us, just so that we don’t worry. Yes, it’s a rule, not a “guideline” or “please do it.” We get on his case if he doesn’t. But it’s a rule he can understand. He can understand that we, as parents, get worried if he’s out really late and we don’t know that he’s okay.
Another rule is doing the Shabbos dishes. The kids rotate weeks. He knows that, even though he’s twenty, he has to do the dishes every third week. It’s a rule he can understand – that he has to chip in and help out around the house. Would he rather not do it? Sure. Could he say “I’m an adult and I don’t have to do the dishes?” Sure, he could, but he doesn’t because he understands that he needs to help out to maintain the house.
In short, you have to allow your adult the freedom to be himself, even if it’s not what you would do for yourself. There are things about my son that I wish were different, but I have to understand that he is not me and that he is going to choose his own way in life. It’s sometimes painful to watch as a parent, but you have to learn to let go and let them take control of their own lives.
The Wolf
* As a parent, you probably *do* know better than they do, even at this age. But you have to let them make their own mistakes (and learn from them) at this age, just as you did. After all, that’s probably how you acquired your parental wisdom.
Near is a relative term. On the scale of the universe, I’m very close to Far Rockaway.
The Wolf
An innocuous one…
When I was younger, I thought a Kohen or Levi could be called up for any aliya after the first seven. Now I know that it’s only Acharon and Maftir.
The Wolf
My question is how to do tshuva when one is not convinced that he did any aveira.
Even if you’re not sure that God exists, and therefore are in doubt as to the validity of the mitzvos, surely, at some point during the year, you wronged your fellow man. You can focus on that.
The Wolf
Whether it is permitted or not permitted, anyone who opens a sefer to learn during any part of davening is making the statement that they would rather be doing anything, but, davening.
Well, on Shabbos/Yom Tov, I sometimes find myself waiting by Shochen Ad/Hakel before the Chazzan gets there. In those cases, I’ll open a sefer – and I don’t think it makes the statement you claim it does.
Ditto for the time between which I finish Shomeneh Esrei and C”H begins (at which point I promptly close the sefer).
The Wolf
no of course you can have other stuff as long as the main course is basar veyain! (for a man)
Who says the main course has to be meat or wine? Why doesn’t one meal of meat fulfill the obligation?
The Wolf
you are not supposed to have milchig meals on yom tov “ain simcha ela bbasar”!!!
That does not mean that *everything* you eat has to be meat.
Or are you also going to get on people’s cases if they drink soda or juice at their meal and not wine?
The Wolf
Wolf, an eclipse doesn’t accur at every Molad. There is also a 5 degree deviance to take into account.
That’s absolutely correct. However, when an eclipse does happen, it can only happen at the molad.
That’s why eclipses are important for the ancients in determining the length of a lunar month. You can’t tell when the molad actually happens — the moon is usually not visible for hours (or even a day) after the conjunction. The only way to know *for certain* when a conjunction happens is by viewing a solar eclipse. Without an eclipse, you don’t know for certain which when the conjunction occurred.
The Wolf
I think shopaholic simply stated a fact literature about astronomy that discusses the Astronomy of Chazal generally acknowledges that Chazal in their writings displayed a knowledge of astronomy that was far beyond what was known in their times.
Perhaps, but using the period of the moon is a bad example, as I’ve demonstrated that it can be calculated by doing nothing more than counting and using long division.
BTW as for the actual calculations in question I admit that this stuff is not my strong point however from what I understood from what I studied part of the differences in calculation have to do with the fact that we Chazal count the seasons differently then seculars six as opposed to four.
The length of time from one new moon to the next has absolutely nothing to do with the number of seasons.
The Wolf
Did you even read the post I put before yours?
My apologies. It occurs to me that my post may not have been up when you posted.
The Wolf
Causing in some years Pesech to fall out in Winter
Or Succos to fall out in the summer, as it does this year.
The Wolf
where the world astronomers could not make as accurate calculations.
Did you even read the post I put before yours?
The Wolf
On a slightly tangential note, the secular world cannot account for how the Jews were able to have the Kosel Hamaaravi built with such large stones that human beings could not carry at a time before machinery that would enable such a structure.
The Great Pyramid at Giza also had lots of large stones and they predate the Kotel by a few centuries, at least. The stones at Stonehenge are even larger than those at the Kotel and the Pyramids, and they predate both.
Clearly, they had ways to move them.
The Wolf
Part of the problem (with regard to the period of the New Moon) is that everyone thinks you need to have super-advanced clocks to measure that sort of thing and that, without it, there’s no way to accurately measure from one New Moon to the next.
The truth, however, is that it’s not all that hard at all. All you have to do is know how to count and do some long division.
Ancient astronomers used to keep careful track of days and astronomical events. They used to count days, months and years. They also used to track astronomical events, such as eclipses.
A solar eclipse can only happen when the sun and moon are in conjunction (i.e. at the time of the Molad). Therefore, if you know that X number of solar eclipses occured over a period of Y lunar months encompassing Z days, all you have to do is divide Z by Y and presto… you have the length of time from one molad to the next. The more data points (X) you have, the more accurate your measurement becomes.
So, you don’t really need super-advanced clocks to determine this value. All you need is a count of days and months and eclipses. Both Chazal and the ancient Babylonian astronomers are capable of computing this value.
The Wolf
*who happen to be 2 of my favorite posters
Thank you for the kind words. 🙂
The Wolf
However shechita is not one of THOSE mitzvos. Siman 240 in Orach Chaim deals with what is private and it does not mention anything about shechita,
Oh, for heaven’s sake…
We’re not talking about halacha here. If you took a cow and schechted it right in the middle of 13th Avenue, no one would argue that the scheita is invalid simply because of where it took place.
What we’re discussing is basic mentchlichkeit. Face it, not everyone wants to see a huge pool of blood and a dead cow. Not everyone can stand the sight or smell involved. My entire point was that just because it’s a mitzvah doesn’t mean that it’s proper to do it wherever you want. Taking other people’s feelings and sensitivities into consideration is a basic tenet of V’aHavta L’Reacha Kamocha.
Just because halacha doesn’t “prohibit” doing something in a set place and time doesn’t mean that it should be done anywhere and at anytime. If you’re going to lain the megillah for someone (or yourself) at 2:30 AM on Purim night, don’t do it loudly with the windows open – have consideration for your neighbors who might be sleeping. Likewise, if you’re going to slaughter a cow, do it in a place where people who don’t want to see/hear/smell it won’t.
The Wolf
(Of course, this all is ignoring any potential Dina D’Malchusa Dina issues that may arise.)
it is a sign of poor social skills to touch someone like that. the proper thing to do is verbally tell the person.
It doesn’t even have to be verbal. If you twist one of your retzuos, he should get to message to check his. If you grab your Shel Rosh and move it a bit, he should get the message that his is out of place.
The Wolf
. I just want to say (in response to, not in any way criticism of, Wolf) that the few weeks in between the time we knew and we told our parents, it was a beautiful time for us as a couple, sharing this special secret that no one else in the entire world knew about.
Well, everyone is different. If that works for you, then by all means, all the more power to you. Every couple has to do what’s right for them. For us it was telling our parents. For you, it wasn’t. 🙂
The Wolf
Come on. Obviously my point is if he was the rightful owner of the diamonds and he was giving them to you of free and clear mind.
You’re the one who gave the ridiculous example and you’re telling me “Come on?!” 🙂
The Wolf
LAB: If he were hanging up diamond and pearls in your Sukka, which he was gifting to you, you wouldn’t call the cops. Your eyes would be wide opened as you profusely thanked him.
If a stranger came and started hanging diamonds up in my sukkah without permission, you’d better believe I’d be calling the cops.
Most likely they were stolen and being planted in my sukkah.
Bottom line, no one has the right to touch me or my clothing (including my tefillin) without asking me — even if they’re out of place. By all means, *tell* me my tefillin’s out of place and even offer to move it, but don’t actually do so without asking.
The Wolf
FWIW, we told our parents each time as soon as we found out.
If you’re really concerned, ask a Rav.
The Wolf
Verbally advising them? Fine. Physically adjusting someone’s tefillin out of the blue without asking or otherwise having the person’s okay? No.
The Wolf
Kosher by Design has a great sweet Yerushalmi Kugel recipe.
The Wolf
This gives us a clear picture of what ???? meant when they say ????? ????? ??? ????? ???. It cannot be clearer.
I continue to wonder why they are so cavalier about what ROB wrote while being in such a huff about writing hash-m with a dash.
Because, apparently, you’re the only one who read it as having a “huff” or in ka’as. RoB simply pointed out (correctly, I might add) that using a dash in that circumstance is ridiculous. That’s not anger or anything even resembling it. Simply pointing out that someone is wrong (or doing something ridiculous) is hardly ka’as.
Again, you seem to be the only one intentionally twisting what he said to be something blasphemous. No one else seemed to misunderstand what he was trying to say.
Let me give you a piece of advice. There have been times when I’ve corrected people in a similar matter (most often concerning capitilizing the first letter of His name). In those cases, I don’t ascribe malice to them for their error, or accuse them of trying to denigrate HKBH. Rather, I simply point out the error.
Had you said something akin to “RoB, you really should be more careful about how you phrase things, as what you said could be misnterpreted as…” no one would disagreed with you. But you chose to deliberately misread what he wrote and ascribe the worst possible meaning to his words.
Next time, try giving people the benefit of the doubt. Ascribe errors to ignorance or poor judgement rather than malice. It’s the right thing to do… especially during the month of Elul. I’m sure you’d want HKBH to give you the benefit of the doubt for your errors which could be misconstrued in a bad light. Do the same for others.
The Wolf
I’m guessing part of the question is that the people don’t actually know they’ll get divorced.
and who is to say that it would not involve children, potentially?
I think it’s understood that the OP is talking about where the decision to divorce comes even before the wedding and, as a result, there will be no possibility of children.
The Wolf
ROB,
You wrote what you wrote, it would seem to be at a minimum to be a Freudian slip.
You should examine what led to that Freudian slip, and what teshuva could you possibly do.
Oh, please. At worst, it was a poor choice of words. You knew what he meant, as did just about everyone else reading this thread.
Save the outrage for real issues, not twisted misinterpretations of what ROB meant.
The Wolf
Could anyone kindly care to explain to me what in heaven’s name is going on here. Hey.. no secrets.
Read “The Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy.”
The Wolf
Plus, we believe in the power of words
So, do you also avoid saying “AIDS” “Lou Gehrig’s Disease” or any of the other illnesses that are equally or more fatal than cancer?
The Wolf
A wedding seems to be the type of event where kallut rosh can be a real concern
There’s usually very little kallot rosh during the ceremony itself (which is what we’re talking about).
The Wolf
I purposely wear a kittel without lace or embelleshments of any other kind. Mine is as simple as I can find it.
Not based on any minhag… just personal preference.
The Wolf
Why? Alaska is not on the other side of the date line – it’s the same day as the rest of the United States. It shares a time zone with Hawaii, UTC – 9 hours.
Yes, but it’s possible that since Alaska is part of the North American continent, it still observes Shabbos the same day as the rest of the continent (even if parts of it are over the halachic date line). Hawaii, being an archipelago in the middle of the ocean, may observe Shabbos on a different day, even if in the same time zone as Alaska.
The Wolf
Forgive the ignorance here, but in what way is Spinka tefillin different than standard Rashi or R”T tefillin?
The Wolf