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WolfishMusingsParticipant
It’s the Bais Ephraim’s second teirutz to the kashya asked to him by the Noda B’Yehuda’s son.
Fair enough. I guess according to the Bais Ephraim, I shouldn’t lain anymore (nor should anyone who knows anything more advanced than chumash).
Thank you for tracking down the source.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantHave you heard the ancient adage about “fighting like cats and dogs”?
Yes, I have. Have you ever heard the adage “raining cats and dogs?”
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantThis morning I woke up, ready to go to shul and I saw that upon my doorstep was a slab of chocolate cake.
Where do you live that people just leave slabs of chocolate cake on people’s doorsteps?
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantI’ve seen quite a number of households where both dogs and cats are present. It is highly unlikely that the dog will spend all of its time (or really any of it) chasing the cat.
Stop getting your information about animal relationships from cartoons.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantWOLF- sorry was on a date otherwise wudve said hello. Wasnt so many dates when i was there, mostly married chasidim
How would you have recognized me?
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantIt’s hard to imagine that someone would think a test on Torah would be bittul Torah.
No it’s not.
When I was younger, someone tried to convince me that the time I spent preparing for Krias HaTorah was really bittul Torah since I could have spent that time learning far more complicated inyanim.
He hung his argument on the fact that the Shulchan Aruch says that we are m’vatel talmud torah for megillah laining. “But how,” he asked, “could you say that? Megillah itself is Torah, no?” He then answered that since we could be learning G’mara or other more complicated matters, the megillah reading was actually bittul Torah (albeit required).
No, I didn’t buy the argument then, nor do I now.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantThe conversation wasn’t arguing against his legitimacy as President.
Fine, “legitimacy” was perhaps the wrong word. Perhaps “worthiness” would be better. Either way, my point still stands. If you’re going to condemn/discredit/disparage Obama on that count, then you have to do so for every President.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantWhich means that 166 million plus eligible voters did not.
By that argument, *no* US President is legitimate.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantEeees and I just went on a date to the Brooklyn Bridge Park on Sunday night. It’s a beautiful park. I even managed to get a stunning shot of lower Manhattan.
While we were there, we saw a number of couples whom we can only assume were on a shidduch date.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantI gave my answer there and the same answer applies here.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantYeah, I remember the bad ‘ol days when he just cut and pasted from FT and tried to bury people under walls of text.
The Wolf
May 10, 2015 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm in reply to: Should the wishes of racist parents that I not date their child be respected? #1076374WolfishMusingsParticipantDoes simply answering this make you uneasy?: If someone redt an ethnic Nigerian guy with an Afro hair to date your daughter and at a later time someone else redt an ethnic European to date your daughter, all other things being equal, would you be more reluctant or slower to pass on the first shidduch proposals than the second?
It’s not difficult for me to answer. I told you what I’d do — I’d let my daughter decide.
You want me to answer the question of “If I wasn’t me, what would I do?” You’re asking me to answer as if I were a different person who belonged to a group that has a very different outlook on dating and marriage than I do. So, any answer I give along that way is meaningless, because it’s based on fiction rather than how I would react in real life.
That’s not good enough for you? Too bad. I’m not going to play your game of “if you were a racist, what would you do?” My answer stands — all other things being equal, I would let my daughter decide which one she wants to date. If it’s the white boy, so be it. If it’s the black boy, so be it.
The Wolf
May 10, 2015 3:18 pm at 3:18 pm in reply to: Should the wishes of racist parents that I not date their child be respected? #1076367WolfishMusingsParticipantIf your imagination is too close minded to accept or role play such a scenario, then you don’t have to participate in this exercise.
Ah, yes. Call *me* closed minded because I accept an alternate possibility where my kids have some input into whom they marry.
In any event, I call foul on your assumption anyway. I don’t think the majority (or even close to it) have the parents do *everything* with absolutely *no* input from the prospective bride and groom.
In short, you’re creating some scenario that barely exists outside the chassidic world and claiming that the majority of yeshvish people do so. Baloney.
The Wolf
The Wolf
May 10, 2015 11:55 am at 11:55 am in reply to: Should the wishes of racist parents that I not date their child be respected? #1076365WolfishMusingsParticipantThen flip a coin
Joseph’s response: Pretend every coin in the world has been destroyed. 🙂
Wolf: She won’t know how either looks until and unless she dates him. (There are no shidduch pictures as many families eschew them as inappropriate.) Many frum families use a traditional shidduch process where the parents do almost all of the legwork and the child will not date anyone not recommended by her parents. In the not distant past, for millenia, often the parents themselves would select a shidduch for their children with the child at most simply giving a yes or no when first meeting the mate. (And yes was the norm having reliance and trust in their parents.) Nowadays the paradigm has shifted but nevertheless in the frummer families the shidduch process is still parent-focused.
You asked how we would do things. I would never get involved in a shidduch situation like this for my kids. It’s something that is so alien to us that I couldn’t answer the question. I can’t imagine ever being so presumptuous as to tell my kids whom they can and cannot date, that they must do so without knowing anything about the perspective date (to the point where they cannot even see a picture) and where I would intentionally shut my son/daughter out of the process completely before the first date. To me, this whole scenario is just as absurd as the one I jokingly made at the top of this post (where every coin in the world is destroyed).
I told you what I would do in shidduchim. I’m not going to play along with your scenarios as they do not apply to me and my family, and I’m not going to presume to attempt to answer what I would do if I were in some bizarre alternate universe where I was so close-minded and controlling where I was, essentially, no longer me.
The Wolf
May 10, 2015 1:38 am at 1:38 am in reply to: Should the wishes of racist parents that I not date their child be respected? #1076358WolfishMusingsParticipantWolf: The daughter doesn’t know more than the parents
She can’t decide to whom she would have more of a physical attraction to? She can’t make a decision on her own?
If she’s completely incapable of supplying any input into her own marriage process, then I would argue that she’s not ready to get married.
The Wolf
May 8, 2015 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm in reply to: Should the wishes of racist parents that I not date their child be respected? #1076356WolfishMusingsParticipantIn a nutshell, other than the ethnicity both are equal and Bochor Two has no other advantages. Do you send your daughter on a date with Bochor One or do you wait to see if Bochor Two is shayach?
If the two are so truly equal that the only difference is their race, why should the parents care? Let the daughter go out with whichever one she wants.
(Yeah, I know… that’s a real radical idea)
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipant“how much wood could a wouldchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood
The girsa I have is slightly different.
“how much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck would</string> chuck wood”
The answer, of course, is:
He would chuck, he would, as much as he could, if a woodchuck would chuck wood.
The Wolf
May 5, 2015 1:39 am at 1:39 am in reply to: Should the wishes of racist parents that I not date their child be respected? #1076295WolfishMusingsParticipantAre you as opposed to mothers who look at a shidduch picture and reject the candidate
I’m opposed to the entire idea of mothers acting as gate-keepers for their sons and dictating whom their sons can date and whom they cannot. If they are mature enough to get married, they are certain mature enough to look at a picture and decide on their own whether or not they find the girl physically attractive.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantGemarah says you do bite…
Fine. If you’re afraid I’ll bite you despite my personal assurances to the contrary, then by all means keep away.
Anyone else is welcome to come up to me and say hello.
The Wolf
May 4, 2015 6:51 pm at 6:51 pm in reply to: Should the wishes of racist parents that I not date their child be respected? #1076279WolfishMusingsParticipantWolf: So it’s perfectly fair to tell the shadchan not to redt any black guys to you, correct?
I’m *definitely* not interested in black guys (or guys of any color) for a shidduch. 🙂
But to answer your question – the person who is requesting the shidduch has the right to place parameters on the persons sent to them, especially when it involves physical traits. Thus, yes, I believe they can ask for certain age ranges, heights, weights and, yes, races. If there is no attraction, then there is no reason to consider it.
However, the person will eventually have to answer to The One Above regarding whether they’re excluding people of other races on the basis of physical attraction or racism.
Parents (or anyone else, on the other hand) should have absolutely *zero* say regarding physical characteristics that their children can and should date.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantMidvar sheker tirchuk is only a lav in a beis din setting. Its not so Pashut just stam lying
I’d love to hear your source for that. I would have assumed that “Lo Sa’aneh” would cover a judicial setting.
And even if you’re correct, what about “Lo S’shakaru?”
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantIf you think you know who I am, please feel free to come up and say hello. I’m a tame wolf. I don’t bite.
The Wolf
May 4, 2015 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm in reply to: Should the wishes of racist parents that I not date their child be respected? #1076275WolfishMusingsParticipantAre either of these worse than the others?: Rejecting a shidduch because she’s a redhead, because she’s short or because she’s black?
Joseph,
There is one *major* difference at play here which you are ignoring.
If I’m looking for a shidduch, I may choose not to date redheads, short girls, blacks or whatever because I am just not physically attracted to those physical traits. Since we can all agree that physical attraction is an important part of a marriage, it stands to reason that a person should not seek a spouse they are not physically attracted to.
However, in the OP’s case, it’s not the potential spouse making the call, it’s her parents. They have *zero* say in whether or not the girl is physically attracted to the OP. The fact that they want to forbid this regardless of whether there is a physical attraction or not does, indeed, make it worse than the case you’re presenting.
I may not be attracted to redheads (and therefore choose not to date them), but I’m certainly not going to tell my kids “you’d better not date redheads.”
The Wolf (who, really, doesn’t have an opinion on redheads one way or the other — it’s just an example).
WolfishMusingsParticipantCould a Nazi style party ever rise to power in the US, thereby paving the way for another Holocaust C”V, and what is the likelihood of it happening?
Could it happen? Sure it could.
Will it happen? Probably not.
The Wolf
May 1, 2015 3:57 am at 3:57 am in reply to: Seemingly ordinary things that are actually a problem in halacha or Kabalah #1085057WolfishMusingsParticipantI heard something about it being dangerous to drink an even number of cups of wine. Anyone have a source for this?
P’sachim 109b.
Consdering that that’s probably right in the middle of the Perek Arvei P’sachim, which discusses the halachos of a meal in which we are *required* to drink an even number of cups of wine, I’d be curious to know how the gemara comes to this rule?
The Wolf
May 1, 2015 3:55 am at 3:55 am in reply to: Seemingly ordinary things that are actually a problem in halacha or Kabalah #1085056WolfishMusingsParticipant2) One should not cut their nails on Thursday,
as they will regrow on Shabbos.
At the risk of asking a silly question… they’ll grow on Shabbos if you cut them on Friday or any other day of the week. They don’t stop growing. So, can someone please explain this?
Secondly, even if they do grow on Shabbos, so what? It’s not a melacha — any more than it is for your hair to grow on Shabbos. So, what’s the issue?
If you’re going to tell me that it’s a kavod Shabbos issue (i.e. that they won’t be freshly trimmed for Shabbos), that I can understand. But I don’t get what the issue is with them growing *on* Shabbos (which they’re going to do no matter what day of the week you cut them on).
The Wolf
April 24, 2015 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm in reply to: Bracha Shailah – and yes, I am asking my Rov #1073812WolfishMusingsParticipantI don’t know the answer to your question, but I’d be interested in hearing the answer you do get from your rav.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantFWIW, my wife is only one inch shorter than me. Very happily married for almost a quarter-century.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantAgain, that’s true of something which is supposed to be revealed, but not of something which was supposed to be hidden.
Then how do you know that someone didn’t just make something up at some point in history and claim “Oh, well, that was supposed to be hidden until now…?”
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantHeh… I just saw this in today’s news concerning actress Shirley MacLaine:
[snip]
Sounds offensive, no? The people who perished in the Holocaust “had it coming to them” because of the sins of past lives according to Ms. MacLaine.
So, if it’s offensive when dealing with Holocaust victims, why is it acceptable when we’re talking about the autistic children, the blind, mamzeirim or the like?
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantNot at all. The Kuzari proof is about the revealed Torah. Nistar is, by definition, a hidden part of the Torah.
Yes, but the Kuzari proof, as it’s popularly explained, relies on the fact that the people would not accept something new that their parents didn’t know and didn’t tell them.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantGilgul is from Toras Nistar. It wasn’t mentioned openly until after the Ramban.
It sounds to me like you might have just refuted the “Kuzari proof.”
The Wolf
April 17, 2015 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm in reply to: Parking Tickets- Innocent Until Proven Guilty? #1073024WolfishMusingsParticipantAnd space aliens rule France.
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
You got that all wrong. It’s the *British* Royal Family that are secretly lizard people from space.
The Wolf
April 17, 2015 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm in reply to: Parking Tickets- Innocent Until Proven Guilty? #1073023WolfishMusingsParticipantIn traffic court, you are guilty until proven innocent. They don’t follow the Constitution.
That only applies to criminal cases. In civil cases, the burden of proof is a preponderance of the evidence. This applies to all civil cases. For example, if I sue you for damages, I don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you did it — I only need to prove that it’s more likely that you are responsible. The burden of proof is higher for criminal cases because there you have the potential to lose your liberty (or life). That does not exist in civil cases.
It is possible that federal income tax violates it too. Search the web for more info on that.
No, it’s not. Income taxes are authorized by the 16th Amendment to the Constitution and the Supreme Court (who are the final arbiters of what the Constitution says) have consistently shot down all the silly tax-protester arguments.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantyou should have touched base with your Rabbi, and followed his guidance.
He would have given you 1 of the 3 options that exist, but the one that is the right one for you:-
1) Stay in Shul & recite Jizkor.
2) Stay in Shul & don’t recite Jizkor.
3) Leave the Shul & don’t recite Jizkor.
Too late now.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantI am so sorry about your loss, Wolf.
Thank you.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantAYLOR
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantMove them to Jordan and be done with it.
Considering the fact that Jordan doesn’t want them, how do you propose to do that?
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantPeople with the minhag should steadfastly continue following it. [snip] And those with a mesorah that does not include following the specified minhag, should not adapt it.
I assume you meant “adopt,” not “adapt.”
And that was the dilemma I was faced with on Shabbos. I don’t have a mesorah to say Yizkor during the first year and I don’t have a mesorah not to.
In the end, I said Yizkor.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantDo you still make a ???? on pesachdig cookies, even after pesach?
Why would you think the b’racha changes based on whether it is Pesach or not?
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantIf she insisted on a single name in Yiddish you’d have fought your wife over it?
I don’t know. Since it did not come up and we’re done having kids, it doesn’t really matter anymore.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantMy kids, however, have only Hebrew names. exclusively, and NO Jiddish names, as Jewish names by definition are taken from Tenach and Seforim and are in Loshon Kodesh = Hebrew names and no other foreign language.
Actually, in my case, that’s true. All of my kids’ names (except for one) is the name of someone in Tanach. The one exception is a Hebrew word found very commonly in Tanach (but isn’t actually someone’s name).
I preferred not to give Yiddish names, although, if my wife would have insisted, I wouldn’t have fought her over it (as long as there was also a Hebrew name). As it turns out, we agreed on the matter anyway.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantIf the zoo is only selling the food for the purpose of giving it to the animals,
Obviously that’s not the case. Yes, they realize that, most likely, it’s going to be given to the animals, but there is no legal or contractual requirement to do so. You could just as easily take it out of the zoo with you and they won’t care.
Especially the machines that give food out for free.
I’ve never seen one. I’m not doubting they exist, mind you – just my personal experience. In any event, I again think that you’d be free to walk out with some without a problem.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantBesides, if it ever turns out that they *need* an English name, for whatever reason, they can always change their names legally after they turn eighteen.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantI have an English name (my parents were not frum at the time). My kids, however, have only Hebrew names. The names on their birth certificates are their Hebrew names.
Look at it this way — if other cultures can be proud of their heritage and give their kids ethnic names, then why shouldn’t we?
The Wolf (who is just waiting for someone to accuse him of violating “Chukas HaGoy” because of his reasoning 🙂 )
WolfishMusingsParticipantIf the secretary answering the phone responds in the negative, how could you be certain you could rely on the accuracy of her response?
Because I’d be willing to bet that the person answering the public phone number on their website would have to be familiar with the exhibits as, no doubt, lots of people call about them.
And, if the person answering the phone is not sure, then by all means, ask to be passed on to someone who would know.
The Wolf
April 8, 2015 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm in reply to: Chiyuv for Shliach Tzibbur – Order of Precedence #1071045WolfishMusingsParticipantWolf: What if the other guys have the same policy as yourself?
I don’t understand. So, if everyone passes and nobody wants to daven for the amud, then I will.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantSorry, mistake.
S’okay. 🙂
The Wolf
April 7, 2015 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm in reply to: Chiyuv for Shliach Tzibbur – Order of Precedence #1071043WolfishMusingsParticipantMy current policy is that if someone else wants to daven for the amud, then I let them. I only go up if no one else wants to.
The Wolf
WolfishMusingsParticipantYou might want to reflect on the fact that the word “To pray” (l’hispallel) is in the binyan hispael — reflexive.
The Wolf
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