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Dont own one. Hope not to need one ever. Kol Haboteiach Bashem Chessed Yesovevenu.
Aishes Chayil
If he treats you well it could be he had a bad day. Its hard to judge without knowing the comment and context. Either way, if hes nice to you in person, it really shouldnt matter what he thinks about Jews. Just prove him wrong by always making a Kiddush Hashem.
BEST IMA
I just raised 7 fingers into the air. Thanks for the tip. 😉
BP Totty
Thats a great idea. I actually once saw that on a list of ways to get rid of annoying people lol!
Sacrilege
LOL! Im maskim!
dunno
You guys are giving me naches lol. Im so happy that I was able to inspire you 2!
Sacrilege
“One of the best parts of having kids is the excuse of talking like a moron for 2.5 years!”
Im not sure the 2.5 years always correlates with when the baby was born…
It depends if the guy is detail oriented or not. I usually pick up on details (sometimes too much!) and I would notice certain things like how she wears her hair or heels vs no heels. Hey thats me I analyze things I cant help myself…
blinky
“Yes! bec. of WIY, I started saying the entire kriyas shema al hamitta (almost 2 weeks already!) Thank you!!!!”
You are welcome! Keep it up!
Eclipse
You got it. We wear suits to dates and dress our best there’s no reason a girl shouldn’t do the same.
You can google that info.
Sacrilege
Ok so then its settled. Everyone can move on the the next couple they’d like to set up. 🙂
Sacrilege
“Yea, I enjoy non-Jewish media outlets and inappropriate places far too much… ;)”
I am not judging you. Its tough to give it up. When you are ready to give that up if Im still available get in touch. 😉
cshapiro
What makes you think you can intrude on our cyber date? 😉
eclipse
” a dose of truth”…Try not to undo your apology,my friend:)
Im not. I just have a tendency to speak truth and truth is painful. Like there were threads where I posted Halachos and people got all bent out of shape because once you know something is a Halacha it obligates you to do it…
You get my drift.
cshapiro
Maybe shes not ready for me to ask her out yet 😉
aries2756
If my need to be right was so important I wouldnt apologize. I know Im not always right even though I often am. At least I apologize when I am out of line. I wish I could say that for others on this forum.
dunno
“A girl should most definitely dress her absolute best on a date. I can’t see one logical reason as to why she shouldn’t.”
100% correct however I have heard that there is some Yeshivish shita by yeshivish girls to dress plain on the first few dates and I dont get it. They are not using their seichel.
BEST IMA
I feel like I am misunderstood quite often around these parts. I dont know why. Maybe I have a tendency to speak my mind freely and not everyone can handle a dose of the truth. I dont know for sure what it is…
Sacrilege
chanyuks dont interest me in any way. I am not some yeshivisheh greasy guy looking for a female counterpart. You dont know me and have me pegged wrong. Im a regular guy I dress nicely am neat and put together. However I am very frum and I avoid non Jewish media outlets as well as avoid inappropriate places. I have my Hashkafos straight. What I want is a girl who is attractive and dresses well but is also very frum and has her Hashkafos straight. Not chanyuked. Im not looking for a girl who is frum um uh like because uh everyone else is and like all my OMG friends are married to Kollel guys who are mamish learning Toyrah with abren and its so Geshmack. Id throw up from that type of girl…
One can be frum without being Chanyuked.
I want someone normal but very Frum. Pretty. (It cant hurt if shes rich either lol)Educated. Intelligent. Worldly. I know Im no angel and I had exposure to all the movies and junk that you were exposed to. But I turned my back on that life and wants to live a better life. Im looking for someone who did the same thing. capice?
No Im not looking for a supermodel and actually a lot of the really gorgeous girls that I know of are getting older because they think they are all that and nobody is good enough…
I dont want someone who is going to turn heads. Just someone that I will be very attracted to. Additionally I will not be ok if my wife dresses to attract. I am looking for someone who dresses nicely but classy. Not trying to get “a reaction…”
the.nurse
Thank you thats very sweet of you to say.
cshapiro
fine so if a girl is pretty ….then why cant she ask for a gorgeous rich football player???
Thats what happens all the time in the non Jewish world. Many pretty girls are gold diggers.
Not to say we dont have any Jewish female or male gold diggers…
popa_bar_abba
TERRIBLE IDEA FOR A THREAD!
Peanut Butter
Im chilled dont worry. Just not into people putting words in my mouth. I can speak for myself quite well 🙂 No need to apologize.
What ticks me off is the Robo Calls. We had nights where we got 5 in one hour. Absolutely annoying.
cshapiro
Its not natural for a woman to be so into looks. Yeah to want a decent looking guy is fine and normal. I dont think any girl wants an “ugly” guy and there has to be attraction.
To want a “gorgeous tall dark…” well I just think a girl who wants that has her mind in the wrong place and was likely strongly influenced by lots of exposure to non Jewish media outlets.
Parshas Yisro: Do You Really Want What Your Friend Has?
The Meforshim explain, it is coming to teach us how to prevent jealousy towards a friend. One might look at a neighbor’s wife and see how wonderful she is. One might look at his house and see how well he lives. One can look at his job and his children and think “This guy really has it made!”
The Torah is telling us to consider “kol asher l’rei-echa” — look at the whole picture. Everyone has his or her own “Pekeleh” of problems in life. No one’s life is perfect. As apparent as it may seem that this person has it ‘made’, we do not know the whole story. We can never know for certain. It is always necessary to take into account “kol asher l’rei-echa” [all that is doing with your neighbor].
from Revach.net
Sacrilege
“Someone said it to me point blank, So and So will get married before her 2 sisters because she is a much better girl. I know for a fact middos wise she is NOT better than her older sisters, she is NOT smarter than her older sisters. All 3 went to the same HS and Seminary in E”Y, there is not much that sets her apart. BESIDES the fact that she is prettier… so apparently THAT makes her a “better” girl.”
That someone is a tipish. They are playing G-d and they have no clue what they are talking about. They know who will get married first?! There are plenty unattractive married girls that went before their sisters and I know of a # of very attractive girls who are still single. There are so many reasons why someone can be single. Lets not forget that Hashem runs the world…
There are people who have the mazel to find their Bashert on their first date and others who have to wait longer.
What I found true regarding myself is that the reason why I had to wait longer is because Hashem wanted me to work on a # of things in my personality and observance and had I gotten married a few years back Im pretty sure it would not have been nearly as great as it could be now.
Hashem loves us and does everything with Chessed. Even when it looks like Midas Hadin its Chessed.
Peanut Butter
Stop putting words in my mouth. If she is interested she knows what she has to do and it hasnt happened yet.
Sacrilege
Youre impossible 😉
popa
I second you on this. You are right. Many girls just dont get how Hashem wired us…
Ofcourse
We all have a peckel. Thats built into the purpose of life: Dealing with our Peckel and realizing who gave us that that Peckel and that He gave it to us to make us grow and reach our shlaymus.
aries2756
“You also need to understand the nature of people. Not everyone is like you. Even though you don’t take things personally, or comments don’t bother you, you can’t judge how other people will feel by your own barometer. You are very young and have not experienced what others have experienced. So people react differently than you do, and you can’t fault them for how they react to comments made to them, whether we know who they are or not. They know who they are and hurtful comments hurt, as you recently found out for yourself. You yourself thought it wouldn’t bother you but in the end you begged the moderators to close the thread. So I guess we can say lesson learned. Hatzlocha WIY, and lets move on from here with the knowledge we all gained.”
You dont know what I have been through as you dont know me. You have no idea what experience I have in what areas and one doesnt have to be married to give advice on marriage if ones advice is coming from books and lectures and not their own “ideas.”
I dont take things personally here and I dont think anyone should although when someone lines up a personal attack on me it is unpleasant and I have been attacked by a number of people who most likely wont be apologizing and its ok because I dont care I forgave them already.
We should all read posts CAREFULLY and make sure we arent drawing the wrong conclusions before getting personally insulted or starting to attack the other person. Its best that we should all read a post a few times if you have to before getting all excited over nothing.
Depressing
Sacrilege
“WIY
“If I went out with her it would only be for the entertainment value”
Any one else interested in my escort services?”
You mamish dont behave! I didnt mean it like that. It was a compliment. I think you are an interesting an entertaining person. You have a good sense of humor and you seem very worldly and very chilled.
cshapiro
“hey wiy its a two way street”
Maybe for some girls. Most girls I think are ok with a guy who looks average. They dont need “tall dark and handsome!” Additionally there are plenty of very pretty girls married to fat ordinary looking guys and even if he was skinny at the Chasunah he still was no “stud.”
However it is rare to find a good looking guy with an unattractive girl.
eclipse
Hi and welcome back. Thank you for being Mochel me. It means a lot.
Kapusta
This thread is starting to feel like the song that doesn’t end. Its hard enough apologizing. Now that I manned up and apologized sincerely it gets taken apart? I don’t know if Eclipse has truly abandoned this website or is taking a break for whatever reason or is now posting under a different name. But if after all is said and done, I apologized and if that’s not good enough for this crowd then I think Ill go the way of MOQ. Now that I mentioned that Bezras Hashem I intend to do that really soon I don’t belong here either.
Abc1234
Your best bet would be to call the band you plan on using and asking them for affordable options. Often a band will throw in a good singer for a cheap price if the singer is affiliated with them.
Cshapiro
So all of a sudden girls look for guys who are “tall dark and handsome” and all this time I thought it was only the guys who cared about looks? Silly me.
cshapiro
“wait so ud actually consider her??? this is so awesome im gonna start counting my shadchanus gelt!!!!”
If I went out with her it would only be for the entertainment value. At least if shes anything as interesting as she seems online…
Dont start counting your gelt just yet lol.
Sacrilege
“I have a feeling that if I would date WIY many other CR “personalities” would be joining us…”
You must think I really have no life. That hurts. I couldn’t date someone who thinks Im that pathetic. Although on the other hand, it wouldnt be too hard to make a good impression lol.
Im actually having a great day or should I say I had a great day, Baruch Hashem and my night is going great Chasdei Hashem. I hope yours is as well.
Eclipse
I have done some thinking…Had I known the extent of your situation before posting, I would have been more sensitive and likely refrained from getting involved in this thread at all. I honestly had no inkling of an idea what you are going through and I hope you realize that there was no way for me to know.
You have my word I will treat you with the proper sensitivity you deserve in the future. Please come back. You are a well liked and popular member and this place would not be the same without you. Your contribution means a lot to many members so please, dont let my insensitive comments stop you from posting and being part of the chevra here.
Please accept my sincere apology. I hope and pray that things will start significantly improving in your life and the horrors that you lived through should become a distant memory. Hatzlacha with your daughter and everything else.
popa_bar_abba
Well I figured you would be one to have my back. Im sure you contemplated it.
Mods
For heavens sake please end the madness and close this thread!
cshapiro
No jokes. I have a firm policy on that. Been burned too many times.
WolfishMusings
Im with you 100% I am really bothered by that as well, it also bothers me when a minyan Davens so fast that its impossible to say all the words clearly at that speed let alone have any Kavvana.
Shloime Daskal is good but not cheap.