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September 22, 2010 5:31 am at 5:31 am in reply to: Respect: Why many dont have any and how to change? #697722WIYMember
Mw13
Please let me know what we do right visavis our parents and grandparents generations, I’m trying to make sure we live on the same planet?
September 22, 2010 5:28 am at 5:28 am in reply to: What we are truly missing in this generation #697652WIYMemberArtchill
And Rav Miller, Rav Yakov Kamenetzky and Rav Pam…
WIYMemberIm really sick and tired of Tzeddakah organizations “using” Gedolim to con people into giving. Im not saying they arent a worthy organization but theres no need to guilt people or to make ridiculous promises. I dont even believe Rav Kannievsky said that it makes no sense with all due respect to the Gadlus of Rav Chaim he cant back up such a promise and nobody in this generation could.
September 22, 2010 3:25 am at 3:25 am in reply to: Respect: Why many dont have any and how to change? #697720WIYMemberPashuteh Yid
Our generation is plagued by liberals and other clowns who are busy trying to be politically correct but they are rotten to the cores of their hearts its all fake.
Sorry but respect isnt about what you call a handicapped person. Respect is a general way of dealing with everyone and if you pay attention you will see how people just dont have respect fopr each other. We live in a society where its cool to diss (short for disrespect) or rip and embarrass another person. I shouldnt say this but in many yeshivish circles some people are considered cool or fest or whatever if they have good sharp lines to put others down and make them look stupid. This is just one example.
WIYMemberBen Torah
A married man doesnt have to sleep in a sukkah. Check the Mishnah berurah in Hilchos Yeshivas hasukkah its in there I just saw it a few days ago.
September 21, 2010 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm in reply to: Respect: Why many dont have any and how to change? #697711WIYMemberBP Totty
“15 year old hs boy sees many of his older male role models (father, Rebbie, ect) put in grueling 10 hour days for little monetary reward, yet see their 23-24 year old brothers / brothers in law get showered with gifts and cars and apartments and a NEW WIFE, and did little to earn any of those on his own merits”
Im guessing you mean this. Well I expressed my strong opinion about that on the thread “The Girls Parents Supporting.”
Check there soon I hope they post it in its entirety.
September 21, 2010 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm in reply to: How to keep kids out of the way before yom tov #698723WIYMemberModerator-80
im only 10 years old (a prodigy)
my grandfather told me all about it
Thanks for the laugh!
September 21, 2010 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm in reply to: What is the purpose of girls going to Seminary? #697560WIYMemberapushatayid
Ha 🙂
September 21, 2010 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm in reply to: Respect: Why many dont have any and how to change? #697709WIYMemberBPTotty
“Kids are being asked to shoulder the responsibilites that really belong to the parent. For example, if mom is full time employed, then it falls on 14 y/o sis to wake, dress, feed and send off 8 and 6 year olds to school. Then, when she gets home, she needs to jumpstart supper, possibly a laundry, and then get 8 and 6 ready and into bed. And who can blame mom? After an 8 hour day, she still needs to deal with shidduchim for 18 and 19 year old, plus little 2 year old (who is beyond the capacity of 14 year old).”
I highly doubt this goes on in more than a handful of homes. Most kids in the US are not given a lot of responsibility. If anything most kids are just spoiled and allowed to take it easy. Maybe parents need to realize that if you spoil or baby your kids you end up with disrespectful, entitled, selfish brats.
WIYMemberSacrilege
“I guess you are right…
But it is also a 2 way street I dont hafta marry someone with such a poor attitude.”
You are right but many learning boys have this attitude because thats the reality of the shidduch scene today. Im sure there are some boys out there who dont have this attitude but you have to think of it from a guys perspective and also his parents perspective. If a guy can get a great girl and be supported by her parents why not look for such a shidduch as opposed to a shidduch where his parents will have to shell out a lot of money towards the couples expenses? The situation is that a learning boy is in demand and therefore he can ask for things which you may find unreasonable and come from an attitude entitlement and still get it because thats what other guys are getting.
September 21, 2010 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm in reply to: Respect: Why many dont have any and how to change? #697705WIYMemberJust something id like to add, there are 2 levels or types of respect there’s respect and there’s honor.
Respect is Kavod Habriyos. One must respect everyone as a human being. There’s a way to treat people and talk to people.
Then there is the higher level of honor reserved for those who are deserving be it because of age, position or accomplishments.
What I’m referring to is specifically the bottom line respect. However honor is gone as well
With regard to repect, people just don’t have it for each other. Its disgusting how people talk to and about each other.
Let’s use a Jewish term Derech Eretz is out the widow. People just act in ways that say the other person doesn’t exist or doesn’t count and its appalling.
September 21, 2010 4:37 pm at 4:37 pm in reply to: What Chessed organization would you like to see started? #697622WIYMemberArtchill
There are 1000’s of kids that need therapy NOT HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH ABUSE! These kids parents can’t afford the therapy so what should happen? I don’t know the numbers of how many kids get abused but there are many other factors that would warrant a kid needing therapy these days and there are large numbers of kids not getting the help they need, so I must respectfully disagree with you and say that there could be much gained from such an organization.
WIYMemberSacrilege
Is there something wrong with a boy who wants to sit and learn and have financial security? Sounds reasonable to me.
September 21, 2010 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm in reply to: Respect: Why many dont have any and how to change? #697683WIYMemberAnybody?
WIYMemberBlinky good riddle
Day one: cut off a segment and pay them. They now have one segment.
Day three: Give them the single segment again. They now have three segments
Day four: give them the remaining piece with 4 segments and ask for all the other bits back. They now have 4 segments.
Day five: give them the single segment. They now have 5 segments.
Day 7: give them the single segment. They now have 7 segments.
September 21, 2010 2:36 pm at 2:36 pm in reply to: What is the purpose of girls going to Seminary? #697557WIYMemberArc
Where do these scholarships come from and are they available for all girls and all seminaries or only to certain ones? What are the criterion?
WIYMemberSacrilege
I hear the potential for Loshon Hara. You are right its not such a great idea.
September 21, 2010 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm in reply to: What we are truly missing in this generation #697646WIYMemberKapusta and Aries
Those are both similar ideas and certainly big problems but I’m talking root problems. Lack of respect or feelings of entitlement are caused by other root problems.
September 21, 2010 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm in reply to: What we are truly missing in this generation #697645WIYMemberSacrilege
Enthusiasm is the word you are looking for. Yes what you are saying is so true. We are the walking dead in our observance its so forced. I had people in my shul shmoozing throughout the YK davenings. How lifeless and disconnected have we become?!
WIYMemberpaschabchochma
Thanks for starting this. I should have been clearer, what I actually had in mind was like what you did with those seminaries in the US and take some of the more known seminaries in Israel like BJJ Hadar Bnos Chava BYA….and do like a small synopsis on what they are about. Maybe I’m asking for too much but it would certainly be enlightening for the guys here.
September 21, 2010 5:34 am at 5:34 am in reply to: What we are truly missing in this generation #697640WIYMemberoomis1105
I think basically what you may be saying is that we need to overhaul our yeshivah system. I agree but that’s a whole other schmooze and will likely never happen. You will be sickened if you knew what some Rosh Yeshivas advise their talmidim regarding work kollel and all that. They literally and unabashedly breed entitled selfish boys.
September 21, 2010 5:29 am at 5:29 am in reply to: What is the purpose of girls going to Seminary? #697548WIYMemberpaschabchochma and sacrilege
Your back and forth is very eye opening. Maybe one of you should start a thread about seminaries and do a breakdown of what each one is all about, the types of girls that attend and all that. I would find it fascinating and I think it would be interesting to other members as well.
September 21, 2010 5:15 am at 5:15 am in reply to: What Chessed organization would you like to see started? #697615WIYMemberpaschabchochma
Aren’t there therapists that accept insurance including medicaid for those who can’t afford standard insurance?
September 20, 2010 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm in reply to: Clearing up a few myths regarding Tznius problems #696845WIYMemberApushatayid
Tznius applies to boys and girls. Boys also have an issue of Hatneia Leches I’m Elokecha. The point is that if a person realizes Hashem sees them wherever they go and they are always in Hashems presence then people would dress and act differently.
September 20, 2010 5:06 pm at 5:06 pm in reply to: What Chessed organization would you like to see started? #697602WIYMemberSacrilege
That is very kind of you. I hope you meet a guy who has such a kind nature as well.
September 20, 2010 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm in reply to: What is the purpose of girls going to Seminary? #697512WIYMemberBlinky
I’m referring to Israel specifically. But I wanted to hear generally what women have to say about their experience in seminary and why they feel it is important.
September 20, 2010 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm in reply to: What is the purpose of girls going to Seminary? #697506WIYMemberTikvuchka, arc
I’m just challenging the status quo. The cost of seminary in Israel after all expenses (2 roundtrip tickets to Israel, living expenses, tiyulim….) can reach very close to $20,000 and I just wonder if we have just created another way for children to feel entitled without any real need for it. Especially considering the amount of garbage that goes on between boys and girls in Israel these days I just think $20,000 is a lot to pay for something thatis questionable if it is even necessary in the first place.
WIYMemberDid anyone check it out? I really think its so incredible and you can give as little as a $1 to each person and be able to do the highest form of Tzeddakah which is to give anonymously so that the poor person doesn’t have to see your face and doesn’t get embarrassed. Please take the time to look at this website.
WIYMemberA Rabbi told me, most people think Neilah is a Segulah for Parnassah but it looks like Parnassah is a Segulah for Pesicha L’Neilah!
WIYMemberestherhamalka
You can buy cheap kosher sets the day before or day of Erev Yom Tov. If anything, tell your husband to take your son with him when they shop for the set he will be excited by the experience and it will give him an appreciation for mitvos. Take advantage of every opportunity to give your kid a love and enthusiasm for mitzvos.
WIYMemberMaftir Yonah: Segula for long life and prosperity.
Psicha L’Neila: Becoming a chosson (I know an older boy who became a chosson shortly after buying PN so it may have something to do with it) as well as other things I will see what I can find.
WIYMembermw13
If someones life is in danger or someone is in danger of doing an aveirah you save the persons life. Life comes before everything.
WIYMemberemoticon613
Now thats a refreshing and intelligent thought. Maybe thats what we are missing, starting on the girls from a young age. I like it.
WIYMemberI asked a Rav if it is ok to buy a Possul set for a kid. He said if the kid will be making a Bracha on it, it is preferable to buy a Kosher set. Just a heads up.
WIYMemberHelpful
If you save someones guf you save their neshamah as well use logic!
Rebdoniel
Your idea of handing out cards is absurd and highly inappropriate. Frankly I’m surprised you haven’t been beaten up yet by some girls boy friend. Either way I don’t know of one mainstream Orthodox Rav who would say it is ok for a man to hand out cards about Tznius to women. The very act lacks Tznius and I can’t imagine what heter there would be to expose yourself to pritzus and to look at women just to give them cards. You are exposing yourself to pritzus. You will do more good by watching your eyes. You don’t know what a zchus it is for a man to watch his eyes in this Dor where the pritzus is everywhere.
Do what I do walk with my eyes looking down. Even doing that occassionally when I do look up I am bothered by what I see non Jewish girls go out naked. I frankly can’t understand what ben torah would willingly expose himself to the pritzus out there.
September 19, 2010 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm in reply to: What are you doing to make Yom Kippur last? #696355WIYMemberWell he had students during his lifetime and they were Jews who he took off thederech and taught them heretical teachings. That’s called a chotei umachti and a Meisis. There’s no doubt he is a Rasha. I’m not sure why someone calling him a Rasha is bothering you. It may be something you should think about.
September 19, 2010 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm in reply to: Inspiration, Environment, and Spiritual Pain #696320WIYMemberYou should really speak to a Rav or Rabbanit. do you have any Seminary teachers you can contact or teachers from high school who you can speak to and who’s advice would be beneficial?
By the way if shiurim don’t work then you should have a mentor. Another thing that I find very beneficial is reading various self help books and sefarim.
Rebbetzin Tziporah Heller wrote many great books. Look into them and see if they appeal to you.
WIYMemberBen Torah
That’s true. I honestly don’t know what artchill is talking about.
September 19, 2010 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm in reply to: How you can keep your Hisorerus from Yom Kippur! #950310WIYMemberpaschabchochma
Well I don’t know exactly, but you can certainly make an effort to Daven how you davened on yom kippur if that applies to women too. If there is anything else that gave you a chizuk on yom kippur, maybe not speaking Loshon Hara or having a more loving feelings towards others and being dan lekaf zchus? I’m sorry if none of this speaks to you, I really can’t give such advice for women, I think some of the women here like aries or some others can give you good advice in that area or speak to someone you know who would have such advice.
Hatzlacha.
WIYMemberArtchill,
I don’t want to get into a whole stink about it but if someone has the right Hashkafos, they will realize that one doesn’t lose money from doing mitzvos and more importantly Hashem gives us money so that we use it to do mitzvos, if one cheaps out on mitzvos then Hashem will just give him less and less money. Its really ugly to cheap out on mitzvos. A Kosher set of Arba minim is $40 especially the day before or day of erev yom tov. If someone doesn’t want to pay that money don’t plead poverty say straight out that my cigarettes, fancy clothing, restaurant meals and other luxuries are more important to me than the mitzvos of Hashem and I won’t be bothered laying out a measly $40 for a mitzvah.
WIYMemberI wonder if the child will be making a Bracha on it if Halachically it would be better if the set should be Kosher?
September 19, 2010 2:17 pm at 2:17 pm in reply to: What are you doing to make Yom Kippur last? #696353WIYMemberAishes Chayil
Actually considering that his intention was to make himself a god and make a new religion and take Yidden away from Yiddishkiet its an understatement to call him a rasha.
September 19, 2010 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm in reply to: Clearing up a few myths regarding Tznius problems #696831WIYMemberyeshivaguy1
Except for the most yeshivish or should I say sheltered families most girls are familiar with what happens to guys when girls look “too good.”
However it could be that its just not on their minds and as you say its at the back of their minds and they don’t actively think about it.
I don’t know what they teach in bais yakov but if they don’t explain what happens to men then they are wasting their time. From what I know of the female psyche women for the most part have no use or interest in halachic discussions. Women like practical not theoretical. If you talk to them practically and explain what happens when you dress such and such ways I think they will appreciate the message a lot more.
If any women agree please chime in.
WIYMemberDr. Pepper
Its to early in the morning to be getting us all misty eyed. Very touching story and so true. There are many non frum that would change or do more mitzvos if we would only make a move and offer them the chance.
WIYMember$10,000? Wow thats chashuv.
September 19, 2010 3:12 am at 3:12 am in reply to: What are you doing to make Yom Kippur last? #696345WIYMemberThe viduy is in the Artscroll machzor.
September 19, 2010 3:09 am at 3:09 am in reply to: What are you doing to make Yom Kippur last? #696344WIYMemberWell off the top of my head I would tell you to not use the name of the person who started Christianity as your id!!!
WIYMemberGmar Chasima Tova and a gut gebenched yur to all!
WIYMemberPeople please take advantage of this mitzvah. Tzedakkah tatzil mimaves. Teshuvah and Tefillah are the hard parts Tzedakkah is easy in comparison. In the zchus of our having mercy on our fellow Jews Hashem will show us mercy.
September 17, 2010 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm in reply to: Clearing up a few myths regarding Tznius problems #696804WIYMemberModerator-80
You are right Im being silly. 🙂
Gmar Chasima Tova to all!
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