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Helpful

Depends who you ask. Maybe a minor difference at most. Honestly I think its a scam. They just want your money.

mbachur

Yes, before the day the Melachim came it seems like it had stopped, (meaning it had stopped years before that) then the Melachim came and it started again.

I agree your Kasha still stands. Ask a Rabbi, Id like to know the answer as well.

mbachur

Sorry it was Perek 18 Pasuk 8 see Rashi there.

Charliehall

Oh I gotcha. So he doesnt keep records of who he sells to? Isnt that odd? Its a newish pair as you said so its gotta be someone who bought it recently right?

Check for a Hechsher before buying Cold-Eeze. Dont know if all flavors have a Hechsher. Or any currently.

Mbachur

Nu did it help?

When traveling in the summer months it is very common for one to want to

buy mezonos rolls to avoid washing. However, as will be explained below, these

rolls are not mezonos.

The Shulchan Aruch3 says, (based on the opinion of the Rambam),4 if dough is

kneaded with honey, milk or fruit juice, and the fruit juice is recognizable in the

bread, the beracha on the bread is mezonos. The Rama5 disagrees, and says such

juice or spices, in which case the beracha would be mezonos. The Mishnah Berurah,6 as

well as many other poskim, maintain that the fruit juice, etc has to be most of the

mixture, and one has to actually taste it in the bread in order for the beracha to be

a mezonos.7 Others say that although it does not have to be most of the mixture, it

needs to be a lot.8

has mostly fruit juice then one does not need to taste it in the mixture. However,

Torah is only going according to the opinion of the Shulchan Aruch and not the

to specific kinds of juice none of which are currently used in baking. Thus one

following only one part of that opinion while arbitrarily rejecting the other. That

is an amazing feat more probably the province of jugglers and circus performers

than Rabbonim.12

3. 168:7, see Bais Yosef, Bach, Elya Rabbah 14.

4. Hilchos Berochos 3:9.

5. 168:7, see Darchei Moshe 20, Levush 6.

7. Shulchan Aruch Harav 11,Yalkut Yosef 168:12, Chai Moshe page 77.

10. Refer to Mesora 1:pages 32-33.

12. Horav Yisroel Belsky Shlita.

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Some claim that the aforementioned reasoning can be extended to mezonos

rolls causing their beracha to be a mezonos.13 However such reasoning is fallacious

and causes thousands of people on a daily basis not to wash and bentch properly,14

since the taste of most items with fruit juice is not significantly different than

that of regular bread. Additionally, people eat the roll in order to have the same

experience as eating regular bread. It is strange to say that it can be called cake

and one can avoid washing by eating this mezonos bread,15 especially since one

is being kovea seuda on it.16 Even Sefardim who follow the opinion of the Mechaber17

should wash and bentch in this situation since one cannot tell the difference

between this bread and other breads.18

Additionally, most apple juice is made from concentrate which does not have

the same status as complete fruit juice, since water is added to reconstitute the

juice.19 Accordingly, the rolls from a bakery that use apple juice from concentrate,

are mostly made with water, and one would be required to wash and bentch

according to everyone.20

14. Horav Yisroel Belsky Shlita as expressed in Mesora 1:page 35, see ibid pages 29-43 for a detailed discussion on

Gavriel Nesuin 2:26:7:footnote 7, Rivevos Ephraim 1:146:1, 3:109, 8:285:page 164, Chut Shuni Shabbos 1:page

47:footnote 80, Pischei Halacha (Michtavim) 28:pages 278-279 quoting the opinion of Horav Chaim Kanievesky

all situations. The Sdei Chemed bercohos 1:10:page 246 says if bread is made not to be kovea seuda on then one would

always eats the roll as a seuda (Horav Yisroel Belsky Shlita, see Mesora 1:page 36). Furthermore, virtually all poskim

16. Horav Yisroel Belsky Shlita, refer to Magen Avraham 168:13, Shulchan Aruch Harav 8, Mishnah Berurah 24,

20. Refer to Journal of Halacha and Contemporary Society Spring 1990:page 39:footnote 19.

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In conclusion, the practice of giving out mezonos rolls on airplanes and at simchas

rolls cannot co-exist.22 This is even if it says on the wrapper that the beracha is

mezonos.

Fortunate are those hechsherim which do not allow bakeries to make mezonos rolls.

and bentching. However, in reality this is not the din and one must wash and bentch.23

Many poskim say that such rolls should only be eaten during a meal where one has

washed on regular bread.24

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.thehalacha.com/attach/Volume5/Issue11.pdf

charliehall

What does that mean ON the Tefillin? On how? In what way on what part?

Sacrilege

It wont be held against you.

This time….

Apushatayid

True. I don’t know why people start these types of threads.

I can’t eat cholent for lunch. It tires me out.

Lia

Last time I checked horns were made to be honked and if theres a reason to honk, you honk. So what was wrong he was on the phone? Dont judge this Rosh Yeshiva based on an isolated incident, you have no idea what may have been going on, maybe he had an emergency call?

mosherose

If you were born a normal male with normal Teivos, it will be challenging enough to ONLY look at your wife and not at any other woman. That in itself is a HUUUUGE Madreigah, to be able to control your eyes and not look at women on the street, at simchas…..

Theres a famous vort from Reb Zisha of Anipoli, he was overheard in his room, crying and berating himself, he said it in Yiddish but I will put it in English “When you go up to Shomayim Zishe, they arent going to ask you, why werent you a Moshe Rabbeinu, but they are going to ask you why werent you Zisha!”

Mosherose, its not our job to be Avraham Avinu. He came to this world already and did what he was supposed to do. Its our job to now do what we were brought here for.

Go one step at a time. One Madreiga at a time. Always with guidance. Seek guidance from a Rebbe. Dont be a hotshot and do things on your own. You go too fast you will come crashing down.

mbachur

Look back a few Pesukim in Perek Yud Alef Pasuk Ches and read the Rashi.

This is cute but it belongs in the joke section.

p.s. If his address was so long how did he get any mail?

real-brisker

Good definition. I would put it succinctly as “someone whos every thought, (or almost every, as thoughts are a tough area) word and deed is dictated by what is or isnt permitted by the Torah.”

I think we should all print out the info charlie put on the top and put the papers in our respective shuls. What do you think?

BP Totty

Very sad. Did they say which train they found it on? Time?