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“The perks of being a member” actually.
When was my subtitle changed? I didn’t notice.
Honesty.
I am an older-timer than some people here, I just post less 🙂
I am a non-poster. It’s not my fault nothing interesting happens around here.
Thanks, Bookworm 🙂
Why should only girls have to wear heels? Let the guy wear elevator shoes.
“Wallflower needs to participate more in class”
or
“Wallflower needs to learn to keep her comments to herself”
depending on the teacher, subject, classmates, or mood…
Their sons were raised by a dorm.
Came across the Wikipedia article (sorry to revive a dead thread) which listed the symptoms as follows:
1. Illusions of invulnerability creating excessive optimism and encouraging risk taking.
2. Unquestioned belief in the morality of the group, causing members to ignore the consequences of their actions.
3. Rationalizing warnings that might challenge the group’s assumptions.
4. Stereotyping those who are opposed to the group as weak, evil, biased, spiteful, impotent, or stupid.
5. Self-censorship of ideas that deviate from the apparent group consensus.
6. Illusions of unanimity among group members, silence is viewed as agreement.
7. Direct pressure to conform placed on any member who questions the group, couched in terms of “disloyalty”
Don’t know about you, but that sounds pretty close. Maybe we qualify.
But unquestioned belief in the morality of the group and self-censorship of deviant ideas sound pretty good, if you think about it. So maybe we *want* to qualify?
GAW: “Similar to Chava and touching the Eitz HaDaas, they believe this is not Halacha, and therefore Tznius is entirely made up by men to control women.”
You hit the nail on the head. This was my exact thought process not too long ago (I’m a teenager). I’ve had teachers tell the class that skirts four inches below the knee is a mitzvah d’Oraysa. I concluded that the teachers, and the Oz V’Hadar Levusha, were full of baloney.
Currently, the religious reason behind the way I dress are to curb my desire for male attention. (Guys have their own desire-curbing mitzvos, which are none of my business.) End of story. Everything else – the being a princess, self-esteem, draw attention to your soul not your body – is a bonus. Yes, that’s important, but it should be important to everyone; it’s not specific to religion.
Sitting in school, you’d never know it.
“What should be learned are the sources INSIDE.”
I’d love to. Can you name some specific locations? Thanks.
Actually the ? was “th” as in “think” and the ? was “th” as in “this.” Go listen to some Yemenites.
Kayla1994: It is very possible to not gain weight in seminary, through either willpower, good genes, or some combination thereof.
NSH: You need to be very, very careful. Even if you’re perfectly healthy now, seminary can be a stressful experience and that can sometimes send perfectly healthy girls to an unhealthy place.
Colloquially, yeshivish means disorganized or of poor quality. “This pen is so yeshivish.”
Answer: Because Sephardim are the minority and have had to learn to integrate into a majority society. Ashkenazim hold such a lopsided majority (at least in the US) that your average Ashkenazi doesn’t really need to know how to fit into a Sephardi environment.
So what if single guys join Hatzolah for the excitement? Goody for them. They need action, and found a way to get it that is (a) a mitzvah, and (b) provides a service to the community. What could be better?
What is this Sephardi mentality that everyone is always talking about. I’m not saying there isn’t one, but could somebody please break it down for me?
There is no such thing as a Jewish fantasy story because fantasy suggests that there are supernatural powers in the world besides Hashem, such as Voldemort and Tinker Bell.
Finding one’s zivug is not a race. If you’re not ready, don’t do it.
Should you marry someone whose only personal characteristic is that he is Sephardi?
No.
Should you marry someone who is caring, refined, intelligent, has a moreh derech, etc., and is Sephardi?
Do the same thing you would do for an Ashkenazi prospect. Look into it, go out, and see what happens.
Ethnicity, frankly, should have nothing to do with it.
Um, Jackinthebox?
Joke.
Oh, but EVERYONE deserves the privilege of supporting a talmid chacham, Jackinthebox. What works for one person might not work for the next – that’s why you have to be open-minded if your husband wants to switch kollels. And brainwashing? Everyone’s brain could use a good rinse from the tumah of the outside world.
Clearly, you never went to seminary.
Hi, I’m back. And I hate ketchup.
Muggle-borns = Ba’alei teshuva or gerim.
When I saw the title of the thread, I thought it was going to be about a Yiddish comic strip, starring those three as title characters. (Please somebody do it!)
Eclipse: Nope, you’re actually wrong. I’m female. And a teenage one, at that (OMG!!!!!)
@eclipse- – what makes you say that?
How long do you have to be here to be an oldie?
A tunnel slide in the walls.
Frum writers are generally not immersed in mainstream culture enough to write about it convincingly.
And nobody will write Jewish fantasy novels. Too bad.
Oh, it is definitely indicative of something.
If someone is an intellectual skeptic, let them ask their question and get an answer. Or let their concerns be honestly addressed. Yeah, orthoprax people need to be eradicated. They need to be turned into orthodox people!
The case Ami described was unusual. Of the orthoprax population, which is difficult to define, I think most have always been orthoprax, rather than having their emunah rotted away as adults. They were robot yeshiva boys and robot Bais Yaakov girls who grew up to be robot Jews.
There will always be individuals who do not buy into the program? Why are we not selling it better? How does a kid with questions, or even an emotional disconnect, get through his 15+ years in yeshiva undetected and unanswered?
Our schools say that they welcome questions. I have a feeling many orthopraxes did not bother asking, because saying it and meaning it are two different things.
^bump^
Artscroll is putting out a biography on Rav Ovadia Yosef.
Discussion closed?
There are bigger fish to fry? This is one of the biggest fish there is! It’s symptomatic of so many other problems.
“Bukharians aren’t Sephardic; they’re Mizrachim.”
Oh.
Excuse me for forgetting to specify that by “Sephardim” I meant “people who pray in nusach Edot Hamizrach.”
Ummm…rebdoniel, while saying you’re Hispanic when you’re not is pretty dishonest, the poster did not specify what kind of Sephardim the PSAT-takers were. For all you know they were Bukharans living below the poverty level.
Your thought process (Sephardim -> Syrians -> rich -> cheaters) is twisted.
?!
Moroccans and Tunisians could theoretically identify as African-American, and Persians and Bukharans could call themselves Asians.
But Sephardim are not Hispanic unless they are Spanish-Portuguese.
I talk to Hashem all day long! Hashem, please help me find the spatula. Hashem, thank you for sending the carpool on time. And even, Hashem, please help me have kavana in davening 🙂
Keeping time, time, time, in a sort of Runic rhyme, to the tintinnabulation that so musically wells from the bells…
Yeah, you are probably biased.
I would not want you to approach me and start a conversation just because you think I’m pretty.
+1 Crisisoftheweek
Correct me if I’m wrong, but much of this thread seems to be posts from Ashkenazim who want to make themselves feel righteous for defending the kavod of Sephardim. Kind of a reverse affirmative action.
@kkls45, yes, “off the derech” SHOULD be defined as going off Hashem’s derech…unfortunately, it now means going off whatever derech your parents told you to be on. For every MO who’s bemoaning that their kid drives on Shabbos is a chareidi sitting shiva for his son wearing jeans. Which is why nobody will ever be able to pin a definition on OTD.
Does anyone have the recipe for that two-minute microwave chocolate cake? I’m hungry and lazy! Thanks.
I hate to say it, but publishers print garbage because the garbage sells. It’s supply and demand. Why should they be selective when people actually buy the stuff they’re printing right now?
Hamodia printed an entire magazine about him.
“Every single Sefardi was Mechuyav to tear Kriya upon hearing that R’ Ovadia was Niftar.”
Huh? Why?
how does one get into the publishing world?
Write something good and send it to a publisher.
We love everyone. There should be achdus between Jews. No kind of frumkeit is better than another.
…well, except for W. And, I mean, can you really define X as frumkeit? And I guess Y is okay, but not “our type.” Oh, and I would never ever think of letting my kid date a Z.
Keep talking, writersoul. Keep talking.