volvie

“Mothers day should be supported by those whom their mothers care about it”

And Groundhog day should be supported by those whom their fathers care about it; and Earth day should be supported by those whom their mothers care about it; and Mardi Gras day should be supported by those whom their fathers or mothers care about it. Right? Because if not, they will be Over the Mitzva of Kibbud Av V’Em.

Just let’s remember that Groundhog day and Mother’s day has nothing to do with Judaism, the Torah, or our people. Sometimes you just gotta accommodate other people’s silliness in order to maintain friendly relations.

BTW, what the Shaarei Teshuva described fitting into as “Karov La’Apikores” doesn’t fit into the definition of the Rambam quoted by ME2. So perhaps I shall change the description of what ME2 questioned from “plainest definition” to “Karov La’Apikores”, and it shall fit in more aptly.

“How many of us really do kibud av vaem daily?”

outoftownjew –

Most of us. (At least those of us in-town. You seem to be implying most out-of-towners don’t have Kibud Av V’Eim daily, but I am not mekabel that loshon hora on my out-of-town brethren. I know the vast majority of them also have Kibud Av V’Eim daily.)

Hey, I was the guy who told you that!

Mommy613, You seem more intent on justifying what you intended to do, rather than seek the pitfalls being placed upon this poor bar mitzvah bachor.

Lo bashamayim hi – once the Torah was revealed, there will be no further revelation? What are you getting at? You are saying, in so many words, Chazal can be wrong in halacha. This is patently incorrect.

Where have I ever said individual members of Chazal aren’t infallible?

“The system will crumble at some point.”

Been hearing that way too long for it to be taken credibly.

It’s a bit like all those predicting the demise of Chareidikeit or Orthodoxy for the past 60 years.

I asked for a citation where Chazal “admitted” the concluding halachic opinion was wrong. Perhaps it wasn’t clear. Do you or do you not believe that the concluding halachic opinion of the Gemorah can be wrong?

Wolf, Are you denying Chazal’s infallibility in halachic matters?

rob, The Rema (Toras HaOlah 1:2) wasn’t written in the last century. See previous comment.

No one, myself included, said the Gedolim of this or previous generations are infallible.(*) We are talking about Chazal. So focus your comments/response regarding infallibility on Chazal. As I understand it, you say Chazal is infallible on halachic matters but not scientific matters, while I strongly dispute your denial of their infallibility on scientific matters whilst agreeing with your understanding of Chazal’s infallibility on halachic matters.

cherrybim, I am not saying anything other citing the Vilna Gaon in response to your characterization that “it’s silly” to say a Godol would have been even greater had he forgone secular study. If you have questions on the interpretation of what the Gra said, see your local Ultra-Orthodox Talmid Chachom.

(*)Although it is important to note that the Gedolim are closer to infallibility than you or I. And if there is an issue of disagreement between you and a Godol, the very strong likelihood is the Godol has a better idea of what Hashem wants.

rob, the difference I believe is that the GRA has that right as an Achron. (BTW, the GRA is often considered on the level of a Rishon.) We (you and I) don’t have that right as being (relatively) a nobody. Yes, I understand your point about the Rishon-Achron aspect (also see my point about the GRA being considered a Rishon in many respects), but we are nothing of anything to argue with any Rishon or Achron.

squeak, my intention isn’t to play one or both sides of the issue, but rather to quote Rishonim/Achronim in the matters of scientific infallibility and secondarily the GRA’s commentary on the Rambam. I’m not offering my own chiddushim here. (At least not intentionally.) How you reconcile the Rema (I quoted) with the GRA (I quoted) isn’t something I discussed here nor something I feel compelled to currently explore. In any event, I wasn’t discussing the infallibility of Rishonim in matters of Torah or science (perhaps another discussion for another time) but rather Chazal’s infallibility, as described in the meforshim.

rob, I strongly dispute you asserting the right to disagree with the Rema — on any matter the Rema chose to comment on. Now, if you quote a contemporary of the Rema (i.e. a Rishon) who disagrees, that would be a different point. But you seemingly are not doing so.

But even putting that aside, certainly you must agree that just as you feel it is legitimate for you to disagree with the Rema and boldly declare “he too may be mistaken”, surely you must accept and respect others who do accept the Rema’s (and other Rishonim’s etc.) declared statement that Chazal are accepted as infallible on scientific matters. Assuredly you accord him (and those of us with him) at least that much respect that you don’t deny the legitimacy of his position.

The Chasam Sofer states that we cannot assume that a medical treatment that was tested successfully on a Nochri will also be successful on a Jew. The Chasam Sofer does not state that it will most certainly be ineffective.

I do not profess as to being the expert on the Chasam Sofer. For further inquiries on this matter, please read the Chasam Sofer and direct your shailos to your local Ultra-Orthodox Talmid Chachom. (This shall serve as my final statement on this matter. For all further inquiries relating to this issue directed toward me, please re-read the preceding paragraph. Yours Most Sincerely, Volvie Gumpel)

Wouldn’t 4 & 5 potentially run into the problem of Maris Ayin?

In fact even with sitting in their parking lot logging on, you have that same question.

Read it inside.

Read it directly in Chasam Sofer Teshuvos YD 175 (and as expounded upon by Rav Elyashev shlita) for the best understanding. It’s based upon the Gemorah.

anon: Rep. James Thomas Heflin from Alabama.

Wolf & Co.: As I previously said, golus has negatively affected our outlook where sometimes we cannot even recognize a goyishe idea for being what it is. To compare mother’s day l’havdil elef havdolos to Yom Kippur, Shavuous et al in any shape matter or form, clearly demonstrates this. It blatantly ignores the absolute indesputable fact that a Yid is different than a goy spiritually, mentally, and yes even physically.

(The Gemara suggests that the Shichvas Zera of a Nochri has different properties from that of a Jew, since the Nochri eats non-Kosher foods and is physically affected by his diet. The Chasam Sofer (Teshuvos YD 175) writes that this Gemara is relevant in practice. He rules that we cannot assume that a medical treatment that was tested successfully on a Nochri will also be successful on a Jew. Rav Elyashev shlita pointed out that the Chasam Sofer writes that the physical characteristics of a Yid are different than a Goy, and that what applies to one may not apply to the other. Therefore, said Rav Elyashev, how much more so regarding the mind/soul?)

You can — and should — do all that every day. And if it isn’t practical every day, then as often as practical. Once a year is wholly unacceptable and entirely un-Jewish.

BTW, mother’s day came about when it was proposed in Congress in the early 1900’s by a Klu Kulx Klan Congressman. It figures.

b_h: She was nuts for going out with him with such a request!

chesed:

You’re just repeating yourself, and you still don’t get what the Torah concept of “wealth” is.

Suffice to say, what “average” yodle on the street considers wealth, is not the true concept of wealth.

chesed:

lets say someone makes a million dollars and doesn’t say enough and wants ten million dollars, why isn’t the person making ten million dollars??

lets say someone makes ten million dollars and doesn’t say enough and wants a hundred million dollars, why isn’t the person making a hundred million dollars??

One missing feature that is missed is the link that used to appear under “Member” for each CR member’s post. It disappeared last month with an upgrade. It was quite useful, and other’s have previously mentioned (last month) that they miss it too.

From Mommy613 on the other thread: “Why is a 13-year-old, on an iPad with parental controls less safe than you on that machine you are using?”

And let’s say they are both dangerous, one dangerous activity doesn’t justify the other. Parental controls can be overcome by a clever 13 year old. And furthermore secularly designed parental controls, even if not bypassed, are hardly sufficient for keeping out the trash from a Bar Mitzvah bochor’s young skull full of mush (as my radio friend would say.)

I would also add that only 5 “general” stories on the main page is far too few. You have about 10 – 15 stories a day, and you should have at least a day’s worth of stories on the main general stories section on top of the main page. I would suggest at least 15 main stories stay on top.

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