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No I am just changing the subject. But buying the vitamins from the supplier can save about ten dollars on average compared to the convenience of a store, I mean the average supplement at the store and competitors for 20 days worth is sixty dollars the supplier can sell it for fifty.
VogueMemberUghhhhh… don’t get me started on counterfeit bills. I don’t even work there anyymore. I only shop there because their competitors are inconveniently located. Just so you know the supplier for maxi health vitamins or one of the other vitamin brands is in peterson park…
VogueMemberThere were three girls from hanna sacks that went last year.
VogueMemberAll different kinds ranging from hanna sacks bais yaakov to tag girls. The former often being girls who come from modern homes the latter growing up in very yeshivish homes. But not as yeshivish as hadar. Many girls also apply to seminar.
VogueMemberWhat does that mean? My friends consider me to be popular, and some say they look up to me, but I choose glasses that make me look like a nerd on purpose. In my case that means I wear raybans with transition lenses and all the real adults who don’t notice me constantly being greeted by people I dont recognize, say I have issues making friends.
VogueMemberAgain, I can’t explain it because it would give me away. My friends are ultra chill about it when I explain it within the context of my medical issue. Last year, I had a psychologically induced physiological injury so this is one of the ways I discovered I could care for thr injury the otherone someone is helping me out with.
VogueMemberCan’t answer that. That isn’t something that can be applied universally. But if you knew me in real life and were in my inner circle, I would be able to tell you.
VogueMemberSee the ateres threads.
VogueMemberThere have been multiple threads already made about ateres. Just search them on the site.
From what I know, they have rules about hair. If your hair is past shoulder length, then you need to put it up for class, possibly outside of class as well. You aren’t allowed to go to hang out places after dark such as the tachana hamerkazit, ben yehudah, malcha mall or anywhere. But you are allowed to go to ben yehuda during the day. Based on what I have heard from girls last year, the rules about where you can go can be kind of annoying but even though I didn’t go to ateres (but I interviewed there) I can understand why these rules make sense. I personally bumped into guys I knew from youth groups at ben yehuda and the tachana after dark and they don’t want you to have that nisayon.
VogueMemberI hear. And I know what the lyrics say about women. I focus on the beats instead of the lyrics.
VogueMemberActually there are ffb people who listen to rap music. There are ffb girls my age from bais yaakovs who have watched tv. People aren’t so sheltered. My kids when I have them will be ffbs my husband will wear a black hat, there won’t be a tv in the house, but there will be internet and I will have an ipod, maybe a smartphone, and stuff like that and he my husband whoever he is might be open to that as well. Its called “modern yeshivish”.
VogueMemberAlso all you guys are doing is bashing me and clearly nobody agrees with me. The posts about how rap music is bad is like an attempt to reduce me from dress to skirt and cardigan.
VogueMemberI have also seen frum people listen to wrap music and use it as inspiration after a hard day of learning. I use it to cope. Rap is expressive. Most jewish songs although nice and beautiful, are not truly expressive of the raging hormones of a young aduly. They may be criminals, but one thing I can tell you is that they are expressive and I need to learn to be more expressive. Bottling emotions and pretending to be someone I am not and pretending to fit into a cookie cutter mold is what got me out of this mess. Being expressive and breaking apart that metal that shaped me into a pleated skirt and cardigan that has no hobbies or passions breaking out of that will get me out. I like dresses. Yet the cookie cutter told me I needed to wear a skirt under my dresses without a skirt I was incomplete. The cookie cutter told me maxi dresses were assur. Clearly wearing a dress that is long enough for me to wear shorter socks that don’t go up to my thighs but rather are like the ones at target should not be an aveira if there are no leggings to go with them. You know, its actually funny, but last I checked, junees started selling colorful skirts and everyone has been buying them. Clearly something is changing in heimishe society and its not just me.
VogueMemberI hear. I am actually quite well networked with great kiruv personalities that would never box me into a hashkafa, both in Eretz Yisroel and in America. But the thing is that while a specific method of kiruv might strike me as a good hashkafa because they are geniune about it and raise their children with the hashkafa they impart on their audiences, within kiruv, there are a number of different ways to go about it and sometimes I feel like the only way to be accepted by the kahal with my hashkafa is to do kiruv, but I don’t find myself being in kiruv. At least rightnow. And at the same time, because I am not an ffb, although I am not in cherem nor do I anticipate being in cherem, I feel like I have nobody to talk to because my support system is falling apart… and the person I would have consulted a week before this happened for reasons I can’t mention, I can’t consult… I know I will get through it. But at the moment I don’t have a rabbi.
VogueMember50 cent although true for me is a metaphor for non jewish music….
VogueMemberNo
VogueMemberMaybe speak to a teacher about it or a school social worker. Also a good thing might be to try asking questions in class. People might be impressed with the questions you ask and compliment you on it and it will make you feel good.
VogueMemberFor sure, its also overwhelming. Lots going on, I do have a support system but its very hard when the challenges keep on getting bigger without any previous ones being resolved… and scandals.
VogueMemberI am seeing a speech therapist. Its just that next semester I won’t be allowed to see my friends at all.
VogueMemberOn top of all of it I just sit here crying… I feel depressed and angry and there is literally nowhere to turn to and someone is trying to shut down all of my resources.
VogueMemberThat is why I am going for pharmacy tech and taking a quick detour from school with the goal of eventually getting an MBA in business management. Hopefully, by doing this, I will be able to make a decent amount of money to support myself and a future husband in school. Depending on what your majoring in and how far you are in school, maybe consider taking a similar detour. If you go through certain schools you can still get credit while taking the detour. In my case I will be getting seven credits and since I placed out of a bunch of prerequisites that means I am using elective credits which I will need plenty of because I need more to graduate than most people at my current school, which I am hoping to eventually go back to.
VogueMemberTry seminaries on the neve campus. Since neve is pretty big they probably have a way to accommodate your friend.
VogueMemberTry taking two fifteen minute power walks every day and power walk when you need to go somewhere. I pretty much alway power walk and walk about four miles or more a day, but if you don’t have that much time, take a fifteen minute walk in the morning and one after dinner.if its cold, try doing three sets of 20 sit ups every other day and on alternating days, do three sets of ten push ups and the plank excercise for two minutes.
VogueMemberYup…
VogueMemberThanks. I mean the only area it affected was my speech. But it still has a significant impact. And on top of that I have to miss class in a few weeks for an appointment. Specialists can be frustrating. The only way to recover is to see a speech therapist. Its just so nervewrecking though.
VogueMemberIts ruined my life path… I am stuck switching schools. I need speech therapy and I have been discriminated in the job market as a result. Since I have to switch schools people don’t want to hire me. I am frustrated. I am tired of everything being up in the air because I can’t drive. It takes me three hours to get to school.
November 5, 2013 4:21 am at 4:21 am in reply to: At what point is it considered studying too much? #985120VogueMemberThanks.
VogueMemberI hear and actually I have met and know people who live in lakewood… you would be surprised about the amount and variety of frum experiences I have…
VogueMemberI have been religious for four years four and a half months.
VogueMemberHowever, I will acknowledge that I consider myself yeshivish, yet as much as I want to shelter my kids, I know on a conscious level that whenever they, when they come, will visit my mother when I am not there, there is a good chance they will watch tv at some point while I am gone. But that doesn’t mean I will make a big deal about leaving my kids with my mother so my mother can babysit them and spend time with them.
VogueMemberAs crazy as it sounds, I went to a public high school with a significant percentage of the student body being unaffiliated jews, some who barely know anything other than krusty the clown in the simpsons portraying every jewish stereotype. Some who attend reform hebrew schools with teachers who are chiloni israelis who resent chareidim and turn off their students from yiddishkeit, some who attended a day school that is not frum and the only way they could operate was by accepting goyim in the school meaning the kids at that day school had classmates who went to church on sunday. Many had parents who went off the derech and have grandparents who are frum that refuse to talk to their grandchildren who did nothing wrong and as a result they resent their frum grandparents. And other tragic stories like this … I live in an area full of apikorsus, I have cousins who won’t talk to me because I am not zionistic. Why do you think kiruv is so hard, how come half our countrys jewish population feels the need to intermarry and disregard our mesorah, or at least the fragment they knew, why is bris milah so controversial, why did someone need to write a book about rescuing jewish kids who were brainwashed by christian cults, what about the chassid who became a muslim terrorist? All of these aveirahs lead to extra money in olam hazeh but nothing in olam habah. Your lucky that even though I am a bt, that I am very strong in my level of yiddishkeit because otherwise the lack of critical thinking on your part would have made me reconsider my decision to become religious. I grew up with these stereotypes ingrained in me as a little kid… you clearly have been involved in a community that discourages questions and therefore are deficient in your critical thinking… our sages were excellent in critical thinking yet now, we can’t even give powerful answers and when I do try to analyze something people think I am nuts… rethink your answer and come back…
VogueMemberRight but I mean in order to make a decent living you have to go to school for a degree. To me a learner earner is either pursuing a degree or certificate or at least having some sort of white collar job other than being a rabbi. I don’t care if he works for the frum community exclusively but the job can’t be rabbi because that isn’t a parnassa that will allow financial stability and in most cases requires a family to be on welfare in olam hazeh. I don’t want to be on welfare because I feel and based on conversations I have had with secular Jews, many people who are not frum choose not to be religious because of the chillul Hashem that the amount of us on welfare causes. And on top of that although having many kids is important, the facts that we frum yidden know as our core beliefs and ideologies are seen as wrong in the secular world.
VogueMemberIf you end up going toca secular college try to start at a community college where you can get q certificate such as phlebotomy so that you can have a job and make a decent amount of money while going to a Jewish college. That is what I am doing.
VogueMemberI highly doubt it.
VogueMemberIts run by rabbi segel who ran afikei torah. I would take a look at afikei darchei binah threads for more info since this is its first year as the bais yaakov.
VogueMemberNot everyone can afford to support a husband in kollel and not every woman has the money for a bachelor degree handed to her by her parents… you also need to have a realistic picture. I would love to marry the next gadol hador, but talmidei chachamim are halachically not obligated to do housework and often the families of talmidei chachomim live in poverty, I am not ready to take an oath of poverty by marrying someone in kollel. Nor will I be. My community actually encourages us to marry men in kollel, but I also have to be realistic.
VogueMemberRight but not everyone is able to go to Israel nor is everyone ready for it. I would say that if you are in new york you should for sure go to a seminary outside the tri-state area, but if not Israel, maybe Toronto.
November 1, 2013 5:17 am at 5:17 am in reply to: At what point is it considered studying too much? #985114VogueMemberQuizzea on 150 pagea and midterms on twice that amount indicate that a lot of studying is nessary. If you think about it, college professors have the ability to ask any questions they want on the quiz. Luckily I spoke to my teacher and was proactive and got more direction but I feel that the chapter I spent eleven hours studying was much more familiar when I did the recommended chazarah, because since I am currently struggling with my ability to use my best learning faculty and it (which is the medical problem) was and has always been the best tool for me to utilize when studying is recuperating from some random neurological weakness, I basically have no choice but to study so much I have had to overcompensate by dramatically improving my tactile ability in order to study…
VogueMemberSome people go to law school. Depends on the school. Others go into business.
VogueMemberCould you be there part time while working full time. I am looking for a learner earner… I mean do they look down on such a bochur… also what yeshiva did you learn in? Previous threqds you started indicate your a guy…
November 1, 2013 4:49 am at 4:49 am in reply to: At what point is it considered studying too much? #985113VogueMemberJF, the class I am taking is a general ed requirement for any major.
November 1, 2013 3:53 am at 3:53 am in reply to: At what point is it considered studying too much? #985111VogueMemberI think that most people are confused by that as well. My current school has tutorials for English , but I am not enrolled in that class so I don’t get to go to tutorisls. Plus I am switching schools in January and I won’t have winter break this year. Maybe they will have more recources… plus I do get the same accommodations I had in high school but they don’t always make a difference in my performance.
And no, I am not getting a reevaluation. If I did, I would never qualify for accommodations again. And based on a previous experience where for an entire year virtually all my accommodations were taken away, actually make that two, I am not interested in the emotional stress associated with it.
October 31, 2013 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm in reply to: At what point is it considered studying too much? #985104VogueMemberRight I hear both sides but I know I need a life as well. Its a lot of work but sometimes… I don’t know, I just wish I had a cleaning lady. I mean in college you need a c or above to pass.
October 28, 2013 3:04 am at 3:04 am in reply to: I hate dieting! Any experienced dieters here? #983374VogueMemberMaxi health makes a dieting vitamin to take before meals. Its expensive though. And also I am not so motivated because even though I know my weight is an issue. And I know I eat to much junk, my doctor did not say anything about it at my last appointment and I did not want to point it out because I didn’t want to hear her mussar, which is usually about jow I just need to stop drinking soda which according to her, the amount I drink is relatively harmless and I excercise plenty. I try to drink like two to three liters of liquid a day mostly water. Also fruit is important to eat as well as vegetables. When I go to nice restaurants, I try to get salad and soup.
VogueMemberFrom a girls perspective, I say once you are 25 you should have at least a certificate in sonething useful work full time and continue to have a steady chavrusa in addition to learning daf yomi every morning. It could be a job as a nurses assistant or something like that.
VogueMemberOhr somayach
VogueMemberAnyone?
VogueMemberSo like what konds of rules do the kollel wives have to follow?
VogueMemberThat conservative shul with orthodox union affiliation in denver has usy.
VogueMemberThere was still no reason for the driver to yell at me.
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