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VHere RebbeParticipant
It was not the minhag of Lubavitcher Chassidim to do. See below
No “Mitzvah Dance”To an individual who asked the Rebbe why the Chabad custom is not to have a “Mitzvah Tantz,” the Rebbe responded:
1) Although we must understand the reason for this [i.e., for not engaging in this dance,] it does not change the fact [that we don’t do so].
2) … He who observes what has actually transpired in our days and during many, many weddings [as a result of “Mitzvah Dances”] understands the reason [it is not done in Chabad circles].
(Binyan Adei Ad, p. 44)
VHere RebbeParticipantDoes the singer get to collect the Shadchanus?
VHere RebbeParticipantAAQ. Friendly reminder we don’t pasken by Gemara. Please bring a source.
VHere RebbeParticipantThere are no such things. Poiskim from both the Litvishe Velt and the Chassidishe Velt both came to the same conclusion. Shaving is an issue regardless of how it is done.
VHere RebbeParticipantSyag
You have a point that my personal experiences can’t be extrapolated to the entire system.However, if a significant part of all yeshiva Bochurim and alumni agree that this is an issue (not just myself), there certainly is room to assume that this is true of the entire system. It is no longer my personal experience, it’s a part of the system.
VHere RebbeParticipantSyag- how can you claim one person’s experiences are heresy? You we’re never in their place! It’s a beautiful thing that you’ve sent 7 sons to yeshiva, but that doesn’t mean you know more about yeshiva than someone who actually attended one. Bochurim typically don’t discuss yeshiva with their mothers. Even if you “feel” like to may know better, remember that you never went to yeshiva.
Consider that others may know more than you, it’s called being Modeh Al HaEmes.
VHere RebbeParticipantMy point was very clearly not saying to wear whatever you want in Yeshiva. In fact I actually recommended to wear a white shirt so as to comply with the Yeshivas dress code. My comments were towards the Yeshiva system and not this bochur. The fact that the Yeshivos are run with a such an emphasis on clothing as a whole is rediculous. If they require a bochur to dress mentlich, gezunteh heit. But holding a bochur to extremes as the “white shirt syndrome” is ridiculous.
In regards to other private schools with uniforms. As I stated above, I never said to go against the dress code, I was commenting on the rather outrageous dress codes of certain Yeshivos.
Food for thought. The Yeshiva system is more focused on wearing a white shirt (some invented chumra) then teaching Bochurim the importance of the “Hadras Ponim Zokon” A mitzvah Dioiraissa!
VHere RebbeParticipantIt’s simply appalling to see what we have come to. Go back 30, 40 years ago and no one would have thought to make impose such mishugas upon any bochur. Instructing him to buy specific brands of shirts, fancy davening jacket, only white shirts etc. It used to be that a bochur would learn in Yeshiva. No peer pressure for him to put on the pretty clothing from neither the rebbeim or other buchrim). So what if your shirt was blue?! Does that means you can’t learn Torah?! That you’re a apikores?! Chas V’Shalom!
Listen, wear something mentlich and you’ll be fine. I’ll go against what i just said and say wear the white shirt so as not to get yourself kicked out of Yeshiva. (Which is completely ridiculous if you think about it. I can get kicked out of Yeshiva for wearing a blue shirt!) But don’t for a second think that this is what defines you. Be it your watch or your tie, the color of your shirt or the brand, none of that defines who you are. You are no less of a Tzaddik then any other yid. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. You have a Yiddisheh Neshama and are going to learn in Yeshiva. Nothing else!
Honestly the yeshiva world has a lot to answer for. Perhaps some of you would like to enlighten me?
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