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How in the world did you find this one?!? Even its inventor forgot… Isn’t this from before your time… Hm…
btw We missed one – the first world war, between Kayin and Hevel
OOOOOOHHHHH!!!
Oh do I have what to say. See,<DELETED!!>
Oomis,
My brother (the smart one, the one who DOES learn from Kabbalah seforim – and is below 40) pointed out to me that many Torah Greats applied themselves to these works and did not live past 40, the AriZal for one.
Rebbe Akiva started his GENERAL Torah career at 40 (according to most), this sublime endeavor / undertaking was sometime afterwards.
But as I wrote earlier, someone who has not a lot of knowledge under his belt will come out with nothing. There are no quick-fix, DIY, crash-course self-studies in these works. It will not even come into the danger of being ???? ??????? as Acher did. It is only fooling oneself into being able to monkey and parrot phrases and terms.
The dangerous caution needed is for one who DOES have Torah under his belt who has been ???? ????? ?”? ???????, for such a person he need be told how to properly apply himself towards these studies, lest he come to err. This is where Acher and later (as they say) Shabbsi Tzvi went wrong. They DID have Torah knowledge, however they didn’t apply themselves to these works properly, with the utmost Kedusha and Taharah. So with their learning these works they were ???? ???????, destroyed themselves and much as well…
And PAA, that may well be, the words themselves have an inherent Kedusha, are holy, cherished words of Torah, however one must not think he understands a ???? ?? ??? of it. Just holy words of Torah for its own sake. Not the “limud of Kabalah”
My token of appreciation to the mods would be by not posting. But then how would they realize it…
OK. So let me, in my humblekite, respond to one of the important issues of the day.
No. There is no such thing as learning Kabalah off the bat or off the internet. Or a Goy learning it. Or one who has not properly prepared himself for it. There are no shortcuts. And the ones doing it are TOTALLY fooling themselves and everyone else. They get a sniff here and there of a few terms and phrases, jumble them around (recklessly and randomly) and think they’ve mastered the thing.
No my boy. Not by any chance. These studies have a big, big preface to be able to start. They have to be studied in a setting of utmost Kedushah and Taharah.
End of story.
Funny thing. My (musical) keyboard gets depressed every time I play on it, yet it brings Simcha to many!
With WHAT?!?
???? ??? fine!!
She even got a name. Sorry for not inviting the whole CR to the Kiddush – an oversight. Next time ??”?…
Why you can’t keep us straight? Because some of us are bent. Crooked. Like me.
And I thank HaShem for the OPPORTUNITY to do the loads (and accessories), because of “Eim Habonim Smeicha”!
Haven’t seen you in a while. WB.
Oomis, (again!) Very beautifully written and expressed. Yes, folks here are putting their own kavod before HaShem and His Torah. They would do well to take a lesson from David hamelech and what he answered Michal when she berated that it was below his dignity by dancing so vigorously in front of the Aron.
I don’t have Hebrew here so I can’t quote his timeless words and most important lesson, it’s worth looking up.
No, regarding HaShems honour I’ll do ANYTHING, so should anyone else genuinely Jewish.
There is a lesser known Kibud extending the Torah belt and mantle to the one doing Gelilah. I always try to grab it. No, not at all a “lessening of my honor”.
I think there’s a Rambam about this, something about dancing before HaShem and his Torah, and about someone who doesn’t because it’s below his dignity.
I’ve been here quite a couple of years and I’ve found this place not to be addictive at all. Nope, not at all.
I have that problem all the time. My horn doesn’t work! (and I’m too lazy to get out of the car each time to suggest the driver ahead of me that he proceed..)
If you don’t understand the Hebrew (you’re new), then it means “I have never met a courteous and well mannered driver such as you!” By all means a compliment. No – don’t change.
Oomis, thanks for asking. B”H fine. Away from the rest of us. So she can come back to herself faster without our “interference”.
We feel an extra Simcha of the zman Simchseinu.
May it spill over to all the rest of us!!
Wow! Must have been extremely hard! May the Omnipresent (Makom) send you a Nechamah b’ kiflayim (a double consolation).
It’s OK. I don’t mind being called silly. (Its my first, middle and last name)
That is so true.
And also for making us (really) Jewish, to be able to recognize Him, and to be able to thank Him. That’s what “Oleinu” is all about.
Unfortunately yes.
Some
Some
No
No
OK. What do I win?
SiDi: I knew that (I’m not totally ignorant). But based on the general opinion of the status of the “J” here, I don’t think I’ll be naming her Josephine.
Thank you Oomis. (I’m not on my computer, so I can’t write Hebrew, it’s also easier in Dikduk,so) may the blesser be blessed, many times over.
SiDi: there’s a Rashi I about the name SiDi??
Not yet. Couldn’t get my act together yet. Soo many names to choose from (not really keeping tabs on who’s who) “Shopping”, “Letakein”, “Oomis”, “cozimjewish” etc. So many to choose from it’ll take some time to sort out. Then, of course, don’t forget Frogette comes with her list…
Boro Park has now just about any block, Shul.
Better question: who among us will be playing?
Thank you ALL for your best wishes. May this new year bring you all much mazel to and happiness.
And cozimjewish, no need to have such feelings, after all you responed appropriately. And now you have “clarity”!
Ivory-
Very much so
Thank you all. Im Yertze HaShem by your own Simchos too!!
Mazel Tov to Rebbitzen Frogette. And little me. We had a (cute, adorable, lovely) daughter somewhere in the middle of the the (very long) night.
Have not seen Eclipse for about a year.
As practical as it is asking on a public forum.
And the real answer is it depends; for some yes for yes for some no. Oh!!
And why in the world would I want that?! But anyway, what made you think of me, and what would you think of? (sooo curious)
Oh, btw in my humble opinion, I don’t think a tender-hearted, sensitive soul would start such a thread… just sayin..
Wha?!? You??? From Russia? WOW!!!!
Welcome to our little continent.
Nope. Not at all.
Except for deep. That truly describes me, (actually my shape).
SiDi, you’re so lucky. I cry (croak) from experience.
I would say.. (na, forget it).
Was at a wedding years ago where the musician played at the request of the Kallah (I kid you not) the Teshuva song from Middos Machine (a most beautiful melody, btw)
not bad Oomis.. Joined them on the “other side”? Definitely have the “shprach”!
(I imagine a Bubby, no – the Best Bubby, in the kitchen cooking up a storm erev Yom Tov, on the phone explaining some Gemara chiluk with the twirling thumb one hand, a spatula in the other..)
No. Not at all. Opposites attract. My chavrusa can’t understand a joke (how it works, what to do with it etc.). I can’t say a straight word. And we’re been doing it for many a year!
Who works for your company?
I try to stay upbeat. Try to make others too.