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uknowwhatimsayinParticipant
Avi k,
Thanks for the list! Good stuff!CA,
Isnt there is a difference between a מצוה and a חיוב.
While there may be a מצוה if ישוב הארץ, it doesn’t make it a chiyuv.
What I was saying is that because it’s brought down as a מצוה by the רמב״ן and is certainly of religious value according to the רמב״ם I would assume that is ideally what ה׳ would want someone to do. (ה׳ wants people to do the מצות….)
(If it’s a proper עשה and a person CAN do it and they choose not to —-may fall under the category of ביטול עשה).
(There are plenty of people that can’t live in א״י for many reasons ie. financially….)uknowwhatimsayinParticipantCA,
Gut vuch
Firstly, are you even if that opinion?
If you are, why would you phrase your original question the way you did. You should’ve asked “why do people say we should move to Israel when we shouldn’t go until משיח.
Therefore I’m hesitant to think that you take that גמרא as הלכה למעשה. (A nice amount of the גדולים that i assume you respect live there…).
That Gemara of ג׳ שבועות is אגדה and was written by ר׳ זירא who he himself moved to א״י after saying that.Also, can you explain your בלעם line?
Not sure I was זוכה to understanduknowwhatimsayinParticipantCA, {through the way I understood your question}
In regard to your question, I feel that it is true that there are dangers wherever you are (חו״ל and א״י).
However, I do believe that ה׳ wants us to be in א״י. Therefore through the lense of yidishkiet, it should be better to live in א״י.
As for the utopia thing, let me give you an example.
Picture this scenario:
A man is in his high 30s and still isn’t married. He is waiting and waiting and still can’t seem to find a Shidduch. After a while, he finally finds the right girl that he has been waiting for all these years.
As the wedding is approaching, the hall calls them up to tell them that they had to cancel on them—-they are devastated and look for another hall. More and more problems keep them from getting married.
While they just can’t wait anymore, they suddenly find an opening in a hall and grab it.
This hall happens to have some issues ( ie. food isn’t as good, band isn’t as geshmak etc…).
Do you think that while they are relieved to have saved their wedding day they will start complaining about the inconveniences? No. They are so happy to finally have a place and have the ability to get married.While you may be correct that at the moment א״י isn’t a utopian society, because of א״יs religious value found in the תורה, both שבכתב and שבעל פה, the people who have a deep love א״י and deeply wish to be מקיים the מצוה, will ignore these inconveniences ( whether it be about the politics or dangers).
What may look to you as a massive downside will not look as bad to them at all.Also, I believe that ה׳ protects those who live in Israel, as if it weren’t for ה׳, the state would’ve never been able to be established. The ניסים you hear about all the time, and the constant נס that no other of all the nations that surround Israel have destroyed it seems to make that apparent to me.
Let me know what you think
uknowwhatimsayinParticipantAvi k,
I don’t necessarily agree with CA, but is it possible that coffee addict was referring to the שנאה from the גוים?
That would explain why he doesn’t understand the claim that moving to Israel is a safer option…
I’m not sure that claiming that Israel isn’t a safe place is necessary not being דן the עם or the current state of the עם non favorably.uknowwhatimsayinParticipantHey coffee addict,
Would like to suggest a possibility and would love feedback:
The term גלות means exile. If this is correct there can be two definitions of the term. (Place and and era/period in history)
{There is a concept of ישוב ארץ ישראל , regardless of whether משיח has come or not. }
There has been a level of קיבוץ גלויות in the past 100 years… עיין history.
While there are some that believe that this קיבוץ גלויות is an התחלה to the גאולה, I don’t believe anyone actually thinks that משיח is here.
So while משיח hasn’t come yet, we still have the ability to live in the מקום of ארץ ישראל— not the land of גלות, but we are very well still in the era/period of גלות.April 22, 2018 8:21 am at 8:21 am in reply to: Getting a ride with someone from the opposite gender #1509425uknowwhatimsayinParticipantbut my chratzmach tree will be there. anyone have any other eitzos?
uknowwhatimsayinParticipantWhat is derech halimud in your own words
uknowwhatimsayinParticipanti haave a few requirement for my perfect bachur:
1. cant eat gebructs
2. he has to take his plate into the kitchen to clean them after the friday night seudah.
3. he has to wear his hat and jacket
4. he must know shas
5. his tatty must be rich
6. his name has to be either moishe or yanky.anyone know of anyone?
im 26September 6, 2017 12:02 am at 12:02 am in reply to: Is It Just Me, Or Are Frum Homes Becoming ‘Colder’ And More Like Offices? #1356154uknowwhatimsayinParticipantAs time passes, the technology age has become more and more sophisticated. Therefore the air-conditioning’s had become colder than ever before allowing the Jewish homes to feel cold almost as if you are in an office. That is why you’re feeling this way.
September 6, 2017 12:02 am at 12:02 am in reply to: Is global warming causing the shidduch crisis? 🌏🌡👫 #1356153uknowwhatimsayinParticipantI believe the two are very closely related. Once the O-Zone allows ultraviolet rays to get into our communities, the girls get blinded with a Bucher walks by thereby not seeing that Bucher not allowing them to mingle. If we were to fix global warming, the girls were finally see the guys allowing them to get married and stopping our crisis. Please help by picking up one piece of garbage on your floor and placing it in the recycling bin.
Thank you, I’ll girl looking for a Bucher blinded by the raysuknowwhatimsayinParticipantI’m pretty sure the yetzer harah toward Arayos is a tad worse than the yetzer harah of having chicken parm.
On your other point, my opinion is that smartphones should not be looked upon as an evil device. As we know, technology has also allowed the Jews today to learn more than ever before. (Online shiurim, Hebrew books.com, etc)
On the flip side, a smartphone user can easily commit many averos if he does not have a filter.
My suggestion is that if one has a phone, s/he should filter it.
Even if ones is sure s/he is a tzadik/es and will “never do such a horrible thing”, it is still a great idea to filter his or her device(s).uknowwhatimsayinParticipantThere are several programs within Ohr Reuven. Is your son first year?
uknowwhatimsayinParticipantOhr Reuven is the best. I know a lot of people there and he has a great kesher with the rabbayim. The Rosh hayeshiva is out of this world. If you are looking for a place where your son can grow in ruchniyus while being surrounded by amazing rabbayim and amazing bachurim, it’s your best option.
uknowwhatimsayinParticipantBasically, when ur kid starts spitting up the food ur shoving down his throat, it usually means he doesn’t want anymore and the amount you have served him will suffice. Any other parenting questions I can answer?
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