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Ishpurim: To be very fair, JTS had much greater rebbeim than YU, such as Geonim Saul Lieberman. And is certainly on par and in the same category of Yeshiva like YU.

And as you pointed out, Hebrew National is a world recognized hechsher. So to be fair to RM, his comment that “YU is to yeshivas as Hebrew National is to Kashrus” is a fair statement. Both YU and Hebrew National are choshuv establishments.

qwerty: What is your response to what I posted on the previous page of what Rav Moshe Feinstein wrote against television?

qwerty: Does Rav Moshe Feinstein have enough Lower East Side credibility in your eyes?:

Torah Analysis of Television

1 Nisan 5735

See the Rambam z”l in Hilchos Avodah Zarah, Ch. 2, Halacha 2 who explains the prohibition to read books which have material relating to avodah zarah (idol worship) and also that it is prohibited to see the pictures in them, for the verse says “Do not turn to false gods,” even if are not turning to worship them, but just to see them (as we find in Toras Kohanim on Kedoshim). After this he writes as follows: “Regarding this it says ‘Lest you investigate their gods and ask how did the other nations serve [their gods]. You should not ask about the way they served, in which manner was it, even though you are not doing that service yourself. [Asking these questions] causes you to turn to [these activities] and to do like the did as it says [in the Torah] ‘I will also do as they did'”.

We can learn from [the words of the Rambam] to all types of sins. If a person begins to interest himself in them to know what they are, in the end he will be dragged after them and rebel against the Holy One Blessed is He, may G-d protect us.

And now what can we say regarding the impure monster called “television”? On it, the eye can see all the abominations in the world (idol worship, sexual perversion, murder, etc) with total explicit detail of the actions and the people committing them. Coupled with this there is intense propoganda and shocking motivation to live a life of debauchery and lawlessness and to throw off the yoke [of Heaven] Gd forbid. The Satan dances there, for it gives him a great power to draw people Gd forbid.

It is incredibly obvious that watching that impure device is a great danger to a person’s entire Judaism. Even a person who only watches occassionally has already cooled down his faith and his fear of Heaven G-d forbid. Someone who accustoms himself to watch it has emptied himself from any shred of faith or fear of Heaven and all the good inside of him. He has turned himself and destroyed his praises G-d forbid.

It is already well known in the world from experience that a person who puts his eyes on this impure device will turn into a evil person who throws off the yoke [of Heaven] G-d forbid. One who desires to guard his soul will distance himself from this, for in the end it will make him foul, for it is destruction.

Now we have heard that there are some people who strictly observe the laws of Torah and they themselves – as well as their older children – would never enjoy G-d forbid watching this impure device. However, they allow their young children to visit neighbors and to watch there (or they do not rebuke their children for going over to watch). They say “He is only a child, he is playing around. This device will not harm him.”

The truth is this is a grave mistake which could be considered willful [disobedience of G-d’s commands]. Really, it is the exact opposite. For children, the danger is doubled and redoubled. The desire to be curious and explore ([as the Torah says] “I will do like them”) is very powerful for children. (A child’s entire development and the way he lives his life is primarily based on this desire to do like other people do). When a child sees every kind of misdeed it is like “education” and “instruction” that he should also act this way. Additionally, a young person etches everything he sees clearly into his imagination (specifically what he sees when he is excited). These images will be etched into his memory for his entire life so that even if he merits to cling to the Torah in a place of Torah, nevertheless his soul and his Judaism will bear the bitterness of those abominable images which are engraved upon his memory just like life. This will cause him to be confused in his faith and bring shocking challenges upon him Gd forbid.

There is no doubt that there parents have a great requirement to supervise their children carefully so they should not have any contact or any glimpse of this impure device in order to save them from destruction.

In the merit of doing this, they will merit to see their children and their childrens children who learn Torah and keep the commandments. They will enjoy much nachas of holiness and in everything they turn to they will be successful for good and for blessing.

We wrote and sign for the sake of the Holy Torah and hope for mercy from Heaven and for the complete redemption soon in our days.

Rav Yaakov Yisroel Kanievsky (the Steipler)

Rav Elazar Menachem Man Shach

Rav Moshe Feinstein

Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky

March 13, 1975

No Ben Torah watches TV.

mdd, the Noam Elimelech, Rabbeinu Bachya, the Yerushalmi and the Zohar aren’t Chasidish.

qwerty, how old are you?

The Chofetz Chaim’s intent with the mishna berurah was that it should be used when one doesn’t have a Mesorah or minhagim, otherwise, on any particular shaila or issue. The CC did not intend mishna berurah to replace one’s established Mesorah or minhagim.

Indeed, there’s a famous story where the Chofetz Chaim himself practiced a certain halacha differently than he paskened in mishna berurah. When someone noticed and asked him why he’s doing differently than what the mishna berurah paskened, he replied that his minhag avos was different. If memory serves me correctly, I think he used a kos for Kiddush that was smaller than the shiur given in the mishna berurah. (Although, I might be mixing stories regarding the kiddish kos with Rav Moshe?)

Is isn’t “more the norm than the exception”. It is the exception. And the problem is universal. In some other places it is more the norm.

qwerty: Who is your Modern Orthodox Rabbi that feeds you these things you quote? He probably denies being MO in order to try to increase his “cred” when he makes these left-wing statements that he (and you) deny being on the left.

As far as Mr. Kahane is concerned, the Gedolim were unequivocally against his antics.

qwerty: 1) Which grandson? Tendler, who was kicked out of the RCA? Regardless, no grandson speaks for their grandfather, especially posthumously

2) a) Rav Miller zt’l certainly was a Godol and b) no other Gedolim disagreed with Rav Miller. Indeed, the Gedolei Yisroel were opposed to Mr. Kahane and his militancy.

3) None of the Gedolim have described Pittsburgh as Al Kiddush Hashem.

Menachem, can you clarify your last point? You’re saying that it is hypocritical, wrong and playing two sides to hold like Rav Moshe regarding shaving (and not hold like Rav Shach regarding shaving) but not hold like Rav Moshe regarding Chabad (and instead to hold like Rav Shach regarding Chabad)?

DaMoshe, I was only addressing the issue with those Lubatchers who claim that the Lubavitcher Rebbe will be Moshiach. That was the only point that you made in a previous comment of yours above that I responded to. qwerty falsely claimed Rav shach took this position, but Rav Shach did not refer to all Lubavitcher chasidim nor did Rav Shach refer to everyone who thinks the Lubavitcher Rebbe is Moshiach.

And, no, there can be no credibility to an anonymous claim that another anonymous alleged “widely respected, yeshivish Rav” said whatever the anonymous poster claims the anonymous Rav allegedly only once said in a yeshiva but never said publicly. Are we also supposed to accept that he’s “widely respected” and “yeshivish” even though you can’t remember which “major Rav” he said it over from?

But, DaMoshe, here is your most interesting epilogue when you write that “I will say that yes, there was a time when I wouldn’t count a meshichist towards a minyan.” So, please, then do share with us what changed? Why “there was a time” and not anymore? Why did you change and start accepting for a minyan someone who thinks the Lubavitcher Rebbe is Moshiach?

qwerty: False. No one asked about rabbis who “criticized” them. I can name you dozens of rabbis that criticized other groups or people for many various things.

In this case DaMoshe falsely claimed they they’re like Christians, and that some anonymous “rabbi” who he absolutely refuses to ever name said if they believe the rebbe is moshiach then you can’t count them for a minyan and you can’t drink their wine. You falsely claimed Rav Shach held that position. When I pointed out the falsity of that, the only one you still are rambling about is the YU Prof. Dr. David Berger. No one else, certainly of import, makes such an outlandish claim.

You can’t name names because their are no names for you to name.

qwerty: I have no idea what you’re rattling about. Do you have any specific names of rabbis or not? If so, please list a handful.

N0m: Kindly share the names you allegedly were told. (Unless the next line will be that they are top secret national security because if known “the bad guys will beat up those rabbis.”)

DaMoshe: Is that’s a normative position, you and the rebbe would have no problem saying which Rebbe that is. In fact, you would both be proud to name him and make it well known this position of his.

So, DaMoshe, what is the name of said Rebbe and which Yeshiva?

DRAMATIC MOVE: HaRav Shternbuch Appointed As Gaavad Of Eidah HaChareidis

Avira,

Isn’t Yeshiva Torah Vodass officially a Chasidishe yeshiva (Nusach Sefard, etc) since the times of Reb Shrage Feivel Mendelovitz?

Which filters have a goy manually look at each picture or image in real time before deciding if it is permissible?

Menachem: To clarify, if he intended to refuse to identify the 20-something year old guy who was charged with battery against him, why did he choose to press charges? (Also, is there any shailos of using arkaos in this case?)