ubiquitin

Excellent thread

What emerges from all this is that according to the Troah the only Goy mentioned in this thread that deserves the death penalty is Chauvin.
He is the onyl one who killed anybody and no he was not authorized to do so, Yes Floyd resisted earlier but in the United States their is no blanket allowance for cops to kill people who resisted earlier (does nay country have such a policy?). If he accidently died while be subdued would be one thing. That is NOT what happened.
AFTER Floyd was subdued and cuffed Chauvin held him there (to ensure his demise? I’m not sure why else) And just to be sure he was dead he continued to hold him there AFTER Floyd was unconscious. It cannot be argued that Floyd was still resisting then.

So to sum up Chauvin killed an unconscious Floyd. He was not authorized to do so.

According to the Torah Chauvin should be killed

lakewhut

do you have a source for your contention that a rodef can be killed for the attempt 13 years alaet (or even 13 seconds after he is done “pursuing”) ?

“Yes she was pregnant”

she wasn’t . Yes there are articles that say that, but no contemporaneous ones do including the detailed police account, but regardless as I and you said pointing a gun at a woman is bad whther or not she was pregnant.

However that has exactly zero bearing on Chauvin’s murder of him 13 years later.

unless you can provide a source for this rule of “once a rodef always a rodef”

You can kill a rodef 13 years after the event?

(and she wasn’t pregnant , doesn’t really change much but stick to facts)

Health

You haven’t repeated yourself.
In fact you STILL haven’t replied t oa straight forward simple question.

Whether I got the timing you meant right or wrong is completely irrelevant (I don’t listen to fake prophets I was going by what YOU said)
Bottom line is the prophet you quoted (and said you thought might be telling the truth) was wrong (exactly what dat you realized he was wrong doesnt change the fact that he was wrong)

My question is when you though he might be right, did you think he was deaf, a child or Crazy?

“Maybe that Gemorrah is only by Jews, not by Goyim?!?”

Is that what the Gemara says?
And at any rate so that leaves a 4th possibility for me !

“Well one prophet I answered”

no you didn’t

Here is my question
you called these people “prophets”
you also said that the prophets are either “deaf kids or crazy”

question about 2 prophets:

1) the prophet who correctly predicted that Trump will be impeached twice. Was he deaf a kid or crazy?

2) The prophet who you quoted on 3/18

Democrats cheated, Biden won

that “within a month, Trump will be President again.”
This prophet was wrong. Is he still a prophet? Is he a liar?
At the time when you thought he was worth listening to, that he might be a real prophet.
given that prophets are deaf kids or crazy, At the time which did you think he was ?

The historical tidbits, while very fascinating don’t really help our aspiring author.

The bottom line is today, in 2021/5781 Talmudic literature in languages other than Hebrew are not perceived as being serious.

Similarly comments that it shouldn’t be this way are similarly useless. I don’t think the author plans to singlehandedly change the current perception.

His question is simple how to sell books.
Comments that well once upon a time they would have been more mainstream or people should get over themselves and accept emes in any language, while true , aren’t helpful .

bottom line. it is unlikely to become popular* among “many top yungerliet who are alumni of prestigious yeshivos” (their loss)
I think you will find more success marketing it to “non-top” bochurim and yungelit who are struggling a bit

and/or

People out of yeshiva as a reminder to the lomdus they once appreciated back in the day. “Relive the glory days of yeshiva ” or something like that

*certainly not openly

“But if their prophecy comes true – they are real.”

what if, hypothetically a person predicted that , I don’t know , say that the Supreme court will dismiss a case as moot. If that were to come to pass, would that predictor be a prophet?

AFAF

“when”

mid 2010’s

“how”
Marketing / social media

“Why”
Depends on the person, some are moved by his life , others by peer pressure, others by food Its a big planet there’s something for everybody

Nu tachlis,
so what step are we up to?

“then make it mandatory for everyone to take it and carry a passport for it as well”

putting the side that no one is forcing you to take any vaccine you. You don;t want to gezunterheit (not literally obviously) but don’t force us to let you into our stores, shuls etc

1) Ok no problem (though I don’t have that power) I’m not sure how this is an argument for you
2) none of those 3 (not 4) diseases are currently pandemic, so the comparison today makes no sense
3) Again that just further ruins your theories. why DIDNT Obama make H1N1 mandatory in 2009 (when there was a pandemic) ? If the whole thing is just a nefarious plot to take away our freedoms why Didnt Obama do it? (I understand Trump was sent by Q to route out a secret Cabal or whatever you believe so he wouldnt steal freedom, but Obama?)

“Why stop there what about the flu shot why should anyone be at risk from you”

Ok I give up, why should they be?

“. What about making vaccines for h1n1 and ebola and swine flu and bird flu and anything else so that no one is at risk from you.”

Excellent news! There is a vaccine for H1N1 (I had it in 2009), Ebola , Swine flu (H1N1 see above) AND bird flu (H5N1)

Its odd that you want vaccines for a list of diseases, some of which are the same and all of which already have vaccines.

It sounds like you don’t know much about vaccines

Rightwriter

“Anyway there’s little to do in order to make you understand since you just aren’t capable. ”

Thanks, but I’m not looking for you to help me understand anything. You do not have an elementary understanding of hosw syudioies or evidence works, and arent even willing to listen.

What I am trying to do, is point out the gaping holes in your theories, and your blatant dishonesty.

Exhibit B: You say “Also I didn’t say anything about depopulation”

Yet on March 31 2021 at 11:33 AM you posted the following ” Bill Gates has been talking about depopulation for years especially “through vaccines”.” * you also wrote “But when a person who has been crying out for pandemics, depopulation and vaccines for so many years is now suddenly in charge of this whole project, it’s a bit concerning.”

* for the record, Like everything your write this isnt exactly true either
bill Gates said “Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%”

As he explained elsewhere Vaccines lower infant mortality and “Amazingly, as children survive, parents feel like they’ll have enough kids to support them in their old age, so they choose to have less children,”

All the best!

“can be enjoyed by everyone from mesivta bochur and up.”

Can be enjoyed and will be enjoyed are not the same

I find it hard to imagine, such a sefer becoming popular among “many top yungerliet ”

I think you will find more success marketing it to “non-top” bochurim and yungelit who are struggling a bit

and/or

People out of yeshiva as a reminder to the lomdus they once appreciated back in the day. “Relive the glory days of yeshiva ” or something like that

just my 2 cents

My pending post is wrong

There are an equal number of cardinal (counting) numbers. so the number of numbers and even numbers is the same (if you take a list of numbers, double each you now have a lsit of even numbers just as long as original list) .

nonthless there are different llevels of infinity

see “Some infinities are bigger than others” From cosmos as well as the excellent ted ed video on the “hotel infinity” paradox (linked to there)

5T

He’s more likely thinking of the documentaries he has seen online. like ET and Men in Black

It is a minhag Yisroel to criticize others especially when it makes you feel superior.

As a Rebbe of mine once says “ITs hard to be frum its much easier to be frummer”

So instead of working on ourselves we say
“Hey at least I’m better than all those going to ORlando who are don’t have the “therapeutic exercise” (whut?) of cleaning”

or
“Hey at least I didn’t go to a Pesach program in Dubai that serves deer meat”

Or
“Hey at least I’m better than the bitter yidden insisting they aren’t jealous of those in Orlando and that their way is better”

ITs an old minhag
one I’m being mekayem right now

ywnjudy

I don’ t fully understand your gripe

1) Why do their need to be videos for all these things? If you are unsure thats ok ask if you cant ask your Rabbi, call a hotline, ask many of the online ask -the-rabbi sites,

2) why does EACH thing need its own video. Search “toveling electric appliances” there are hundreds of results. Why do you need a video for pizza maker, then one presumably for hot water urn, for sandwich maker, George foreman, Pannini press, Keurig, blender, Why do these all have to exist seperatly and why in video form?
Similarly a search for “cutting nails on chol hamoed” yields hundreds of results the second of which is a detailed guide to the laws of chol hamoed from the OU. why does it have to be in video form?

3) Who is paying for the filming of thousands upon thousands of hours of video addressing every possible question someone may have, who is paying for storage, and organization of this ?
how much would you be willing to pay to have access to such a database? per question? unlimited monthly access?

Health

Thanks for providing new information

(I’m ignoring the previous post, since IT provided no new information just repeated the same debunked idea over and over I rpplied to it dozens of times you cant ignore my reply and expect me to keep repeating myself)

On this thread: https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/democrats-cheated-biden-won-2

You wrote That it was ok for a “Goyish prophet” to say that “that within a month [from 3/18], Trump will be President again.” even though he says for sure because he claims to be a prophet.

I have lots of questions.

when by 4/18 (a month from the above post) Trump will not be President, will this prophet have lied? *

If I tell you I’m a prophet then my correct predictions, are no longer “lies of fabrication” because I’m a prophet who is qualified to make predictions correct? It is only because they were educated guesses (based on fact and reason) that they are “lies of fabrication” even if true. IS this correct?

*I am telling you this with as near certainty as humanly possible. That Trump will not be President in a month.
Is THIS another “lie of fabrication” of mine? (even if true)

“Who knows what you meant at that time?”

I meant that the supreme court would decline to hear the case . Which is waht I said, AND is what happened

I said it as clearly as I could: ““The case will not be heard” short succinct, to the point. and 100% accurate.

It was not a lie, as has been pointed out over and over.

It doesnt sound like you have any new information t oadd, nor are you willing to stop lying

When new information pops up (eg in Sydney Powel”s case) I will update you
Until then unless you would like to apologize for wrongly calling me a liar, Or would like to respond to my questions to help you understand why your “understanding” of “lie of fabrication” ifs at best faulty, Or If you have any new information to add, I’ll let yo uhave the last word

Knowing my costumers, this is goodbye for now (Yes this is a prediction and no it doesn’t become a prediction only becasue I labeled it as such)

“Your saying “I was making a prediction”, came way before your post “The case will not be heard.”

yes

Still not following, why is a clarification “way before” worse than one that occurs later? (and yours only occurred becasue I called you out on violating the nonsensical rule you invented)

“It’s amazing how you can think that you Never did anything wrong”

Thats not true. continuing this conversation is wrong, and frankly crazy, but what can I do it is my guilty pleasure

Duvee ? UJM

“If you’re suggesting Reuven lied to Beis Din, which is not the case I presented, ”
you didn’t present a case.
Obviously each of these cases involves a myriad of details

” then that’s the Halacha. The request for divorce is rightfully, under explicit Halacha, denied”

Again, That’s the halacha in Even Haezer
There is no explicit halacha that prevents me from practicing my bagpipe “skills” every day when my neighbor tries to take his nap.
Yet most people , would grant that is not a very nice thing to do.

There are many cases where A Rav will encourage someone to give a Get where there is no hope of reconciliation, although m’ikar hadin he isnt obligated too and he is hoping things will change. Are those Rabbonim wrong for needlessly causing gittin that are not required?

“How’s it possible that her Bein adom lechaveiro is to agree to continue the marriage while at the same time his Bein adom lechaveiro is to give a Get??”

I gave you an example: Bein adom lechaveiro involves 2 people. It is your bein adom lechaverio obligation to not let a door hit me in the face, and it is mine ot not make a big deal if you did. The two are not exclusive.

I think I made my point clear.

I will sum up concisely:

All I am saying is causing tzar to another person by forcing her to remain in a marriage that has no hope of reconciliation, is a wrong thing to do.

דַּעֲלָךְ סְנֵי לְחַבְרָךְ לָא תַּעֲבֵיד — זוֹ הִיא כׇּל הַתּוֹרָה כּוּלָּהּ

I am not saying anything controversial

“If you wrote – I think or I’m guessing, that wouldn’t be a problem.”

I don’t get it . why do I have to write it in every post, but you don’t?

You said “She doesn’t believe it” and LATER clarified “I don’t know for sure. I’m guessing.”

And yet yo uclaim, when I said “The case will not be heard.” it WAS a “Lie of fabrication” (Even though it wasn’t a lie nor a fabrication) when at that point I ALREADY had said I was ” make[ing] a prediction,” that may turn out to be wrong?

Why do I have to put “I think” in every post, and you don’t ?

: “A Get refuser without a Siruv” is the same oxymoron”

This is incorrect.

You are making the same mistake as earlier. You mean the the Hilchos Even Haezer sense. however in the bein adom lechaveiro sense, you are incorrect

(to be clear that does not necessarily allow for pressure shaming etc THOSE halachos are found in Even Haezer, whci his the source of your confusion)

“She’s only saying that to get out of her lawsuit.”

Lol!

To be clear, so she is lying now?

Hope youve been well

I don’t plan on repeating the same points over and over.

But to follow up on your request:

On Feb 7 (and again and again on the 8th and 9th) I asked

“When (if?) Powell settles or loses her court case against Dominion, and either agrees that she lied, or it is ruled that she lied.
Will you then agree that she lied”

after dodging for a bit you replied “It’s too early to even ask questions about this lawsuit.
Ask me much later.”

she now says “no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact.”