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This year will be closer to Thanksgivingka presents this year than Chanukamas.
I’m not as well versed in fake halacha as you are; are Thanksgivingka presents also a a problem?
AFAFUJM
“ubiq: Your letzanus is duly noted.”
same!
I’m glad we get each other.
Looking forward to your chanukah present thread.“Which is better,”
I don’t think there’s an objective “better” or “worse”. Music is subjective it depends on individual taste, I generally like songs of the first type better. I’m sure others like the second type better
UJM
As terrible as the avla you cite is, It starts much more insidiously.
There are nashim on this forum who think their opinions matter. Worse- many of them dare disagree with men, and in a public forum no less. It is a terrible terrible chilul Hashem and Zuilzul Kvod shomayim and Kovod habriyos, both their own Kavod (Kol kvuda bas melech pnima) and that of the man whose opinion is questioned.
In the rare case that an isha has finished cleaning the home tending to the children , and IF her baal gives her permission to log on to yeshiva world, all she should do is drink in the words of wisdom left here. If she must comment, again with her baal’s permission, a simple “Yes wise master thank you for sharing your words of wisdom” is all that should be tolerated
“I think that this time he knows he’s wrong!”
Lol, no just the opposite This one is super black and white
But boring .
Fake supreme court cases, thats exciting stuff. but getting the age wrong when lipid screening is recommended, especially if now you have it right. meh boring
Though UJM, question for you “and enjoy the show.”
I assume you are kidding, nobody can possibly enjoy this (besides me and him obviously)
Health
“I wrote this – “The USPSTF recommends that adults w/o a history of CVD use a Statin drug for prevention with all of the following:””Correct. You wrote that and it is true It is waht I said last time you brought this up, and it was true then too..
However On THAT thread you wrote
“Most authorities recommend doing lipid testing starting at 20 y/o. If within normal range, most hold to repeat testing every 5 years.” This is Universal Testing!”see it?
(* and no you didn’t mean age 20 + risk factors, since thats what I said to which you replied “I can’t teach you current medicine!”)
If You don’t see it, thats ok I guess you won’t .
I don’t want to detract more than I already have from your thread.“There’s No contradiction!”
Agreed. not a contradiction per se, there you misstated guidelines, you have since taken the time to correct yourself. That’s great!Health dearest!
“So every adult 40 – 75 y.o. needs universal lipid screening”
A few years ago you said recommendation was age 20
“Most authorities recommend doing lipid testing starting at 20 y/o.”I pointed out that this was only in the presence of risk factors
To which you replied
“I can’t teach you current medicine!”Interestingly now you’ve raised your age for universal screening to “So every adult 40 – 75 y.o. needs universal lipid screening”
I’m glad you caught up on current guidelines
from this fun thread
“Did you ever hear of a person vaccinated against polio who became sick with polio because someone else didn’t get the polio vaccine?”
Bad example. you see Polio vaccine existed before WhatsApp and Facebook. So Antivaxxers, did not have accessto their sources of “research”
If your example was measles then yes I havePArticipant
I’m not sure.
The vaccine has been available for a while now. Anyone who was planning ot get it would have gotten it. Unfortunately it i is still not enough. After a bunch of early enthusiasm, people fighting for vaccines, cutting in line, People accused of redirecting vaccines, it leveled off in the usmmer to an extent.
The way to push it further is with mandates. Are there people willing to lose their job to avoid it? Sure and that is their prerogative. But while icky, the mandates are more likely to push those on the fence to get it than push them not to. The vocal ones are largely people who would not have gotten it without a vaccineIts the sign of being a frum Jews w anyone who doesn’t say it at least 326 times daily (Gematria of frum) isn’t really frum.
and of course being offended by the phrase baruch Hashem. That is the mark of a big big tazadik
“How is there systemic racism?”
As a result of decades, and decades of institutionalized racism, there are many disparities that persist today. Look up the history of redlining that directly contributed to the housing disparity that exists today (This is but one classic example)
“Do people not vote for black politicians?”
IS this a real question? OF course people don’t. I assume there’s a typo here. Though this isnt example of systemic racism, since this is due to individual racists not a system
“Can blacks not get into college and universities due to their skin color?”
Not skin color per se, but yes they have a harder time getting into colleges due to decades of systemic discrimination that prevented their parents from going to college, prevented their parents from getting higher paying jobs to afford college
“Are they denied jobs due to their skin color?”
Yes. OF course. Though again this is probably not systemic rather due to individual racist employers.Your questions indicate you don’t understand what systemic racism is.
Hopefully your kids will get a good CRT course intheir school, and you can learn about it with them
“If you answer yes to any of these questions above then you are living in an alternative universe.”
Halevai! one day. For now I’m in the same universe as you
“when are we going to wake up and realize that we need to be more cautious who we let into our communities.”
Hopefully not.
The story doesn’t pass the smell test. Served as a mohel? He wrote A Sefer Torah cmon That is not an easy task. And to what end ? So he can slip in talk about Yoshka int ocausal conversation, and the listeneer would say “Hey this guy is a mohel and sofer if he believes in Yoshko I guess I should”
A commenter there wrote: “As a resident of Phoenix for almost 10 years, I can confirm this story to be a bunch of hype and lies !!
This guy had no connection to the frum community in Phoenix. He lived in a far out corner of the city where no frum families reside.
The “rabbi” that gave him semicha is a man that is a Notorious scamster in the community. Everyone knows to stay far away. He has 4 followers in his garage on a good week.
As usual, don’t believe everything you read. No frum people where impacted by these idiots!”Obviously I don’t know if the commenter is telling the truth but it is far more likely than the reported story .
“Furthermore, you have ignored my comment regarding black racism towards Jews.”
did you read my post?
I DIRECTLY addressed that
Here it is again
“” how about we make classes to teach about black racism towards Jews. ”
Yes! I’m all for it!”You ask why aren’t they taught not to hate!
They should be. All should be!We need MORE CRT not less!
Especially since you don’t understand what systemic racism is as evidenced by your comment “There is no systemic racism whatsoever. That’s a lie. There was a black president…, ”
“Wow, I can’t believe that frum Jews would support crt. ”
Its not so surprising we have been teaching the same thing for years. We Just focus on Jewish history.
For example the average Frum person knows more about the crusades than most Americans. Most American global history books have a few lines about the crusades, with no mention of the JEws. I have a several hundred page book on the crusades “Jews” are mentioned twice (Jews of JErusalem, the Jews of Germany are not mentioned at all.)
Example #2 : Pretty much all frum Jews have heard of Bohdan Khmelnytsky ym”sh. Almost no Americans have heard of him. He is of course an important figure in Ukrainian history (in fact there are statues glorifying him throughout the Ukraine.
We of course teach our children “Critical Jewish History”Many in the U.S. don;t know American history when it comes to Race relations. Sure slavery is mentioned, and then Lincoln came in on his white horse and everybody sang kumbaya. The fact that you could say “Systemic racism against blacks is a false narrative.” Proves how necessary CRT is
” how about we make classes to teach about black racism towards Jews. ”
Yes!
I’m all for it!
See you too support CRTI didn’t think you’d come around. Thank you
Health
The second half
“Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies.”
Is one I support completely.
The first half I don’t understand so much
“I agreed that Trump empowered the Taliban”
Fantastic!
Shalom al yisroel that’s exactly what I saidPhil
“The actual subject material tuaght is what defines CRT.”1. I’m not sure that’s true. For example chemistry has a definition. If I call alchemy chemistry and you don’t want my alchemy taught in schools . Thst doesn’t mean you are opposed to chemistry. You don’t think alchemy is chemistry. Just because sone person is teaching something g and kabeks it “crt” dies t mean thsts what crt is
2. Nu so actual subject matter that you disagree with.BTW this whole thread has gone off the, rails a bit I don’t think I can convince you to support crt. That was never my intention. Hopefully you can see why it isn’t all inherently bad. Ķwhich is what the op implied) to thst end I’m happy to answer specific questions, but don’t want to get to caught up in moving goal posts.
CA
You are right.
While there were relatively high inflation rates in 2018. they pale in comparison to today.
The current high inflation is solely under Biden’s watch I retract that statement
DBS
I’m not sure how okay could be “aggressive” Passive sure. you asked a question to satisfy your curiosity I answered . Thats it. If you have a follow up question, ‘d be happy to answer that too.
you said a large majority of CRT theorists would disagree. Ok, they can disagree. I don’t have to answer for them, nor am I empowered to do so.
Phil
“your “definition” by quoting Wikipedia is naive.”
nu nu so change Wikipedia to a defitnion that fits your preconceived scary view that’s your right.. With your super scary sinister definition of CRT, I might not support it. I’m going with the current definition as supplied there and herePhil
I provided a definition, if you don’t like it that’s fine.
DBS
okHealth
“Stop lying!”
Ok I won’t. you don’t have to listen to me If you don’t believe me that Trump started empowering the Taliban Listen to the guy who wrote this “He made a deal with them – they were getting what they wanted and the US wasn’t being attacked.” See I’m not the only one who thinks that one of your personalities does too.“Obviously you don’t understand what it is.”
I provided a defitnion. If you don;t like it you are free to provide your ownCK
excellentDBS
first need to define it
Ill copy paste from wikipedia“Critical race theory (CRT is a body of legal scholarship and an academic movement of US civil-rights scholars and activists who seek to critically examine the intersection of race and US law and to challenge mainstream American liberal approaches to racial justice. CRT examines social, cultural, and legal issues primarily as they relate to race and racism in the US. A tenet of CRT is that racism and disparate racial outcomes are the result of complex, changing, and often subtle social and institutional dynamics, rather than explicit and intentional prejudices of individuals”
In order to understand the present, it is important to understand the past. Racism was not just a minor hiccup of US history. IT was literally baked into the countries’ founding. (I don’t think any other western country had racist ideas literally written into the constitution like the US did)
Sure we have come a long long way, but PART of the reason (note: not the entire reason that is what “part” means) such large racial disparities exist is becasue of the way these things were baked in to US fabric bot h explicit and implicit.
Learning history critically is important, even if it makes people uncomfortable.Supply chain problems – started under Trump
High inflation -started under Trump
Terrible labor reports – started under Trump
Empowered the Taliban and have them all out weapons for free – started under Trump
Vaccine Mandates – Great!
Critical Race Theory in schools – Great!
Alienated western allies- The reverse is true
Made Israel more vulnerable- not true
Enabled Iran- Started under TrumpBut hey he doesn’t send mean tweets – Great!
Now granted just becasue something started under trump is not an excuse to reelect Biden. So while you did list some Great things about Biden if Biden doesn’t turn around the rest soon it’ll be time to replace him in 3 years.
“Ubq….in what way is jealousy manifested in what I said?”
your tone
(not just in this post )“Judging people’s religious level or affiliation by their kippa is something that is only practice by a certain segment of the Jewish population, whom I shall not name.”
Lol, how do you identify that certain segment. Hopefully not by their kippot
“and they have no place in authentic Judaism.”
Vechi yesh Judaism without authenticity? It’s redundant.
eleh mai, you are jelous of the Torah Judiasm tm branding.
don’t be jealous make your own, Authentic Judaism led by YO. start a publication sharing al your authentic Jewish ideas
Of course dealing only wit hTHE MOST pressing issues facing kala yisorel. nothing other than the most pressing, just the way you like it
“If he abused her of course he’s bad. I’m not sure why you need to even ask”
If your not sure, then you aren’t reading your posts.
“But if there’s no proof we can’t accept the allegation as true. The Halacha in S”A is clear about that.”
Nobody is asking us to accept anything. This isnt a beis din.
The question is if a marriage is over * and a husband forces his wife to remain stuck in the marriage. Is he a jerk?
Note: not is that his halachic right. That isn’t the question.You seem to have come around a bit “If you’re asking regarding a case where he’s beating her (which he obviously knows) but the Beis Din has no proof of it, then of course he’s being bad and is required to stop or agree to divorce (even if Beis Din can’t force him since there’s no proof.)”
Thats great.
Of course there are other forms of abuse as well, besides hitting, as , I assume, you know.*defined any way you want
“Syag, are you actually denying that there’s a lot of false allegations of abuse in divorce legal proceedings?”
Are you denying that theres a lot of true allegations of abuse in divorce legal proceedings?
My question is in THOSE cases. He know the truth. Is he a bad person for keeping her in a chanied marriage. Even if strictly speaking as far as even haezer goes he is not obligated to divorce her?
“I’m not sure why you’d think our conversation now is a continuation from another thread seven months ago”
I don’t think your views changed. and as I mentioned here your comments fit with
“Why aren’t you asking this question against Rabbeinu Gershom?”
Because I suspect why he did. I don;t have a question for him. If I did of course I’d ask him. He isnt commenting in this thread (As far as I know)
My question is for you.
YOU said
” No, because Rabbeinu Gershom is obviously correct. A husband shouldn’t divorce his wife if she doesn’t want to divorce.””so I am trying to understand YOUR view.
According to the Torah a man can force his wife out if he so pleases, and she has no say.
(correct me if I’m wrong)You said “Rabbeinu Gershom is obviously correct. A husband shouldn’t divorce his wife if she doesn’t want to divorce”
I’m curious how you square these two statements
ujm
“That point wasn’t specified in the conversation”
It was specified in our previous conversation
and is implicit in this one (when te phrase “being chained” is used that means the marriage is over
“And more importantly, the marriage is over in whose opinion?”
ours. we are the ones discussing thisThough to be fair, in your last point you concede a little bit.
“I’m referring to situations where the husband sincerely desires to continue the marriage and seek Shalom Bayis. (I’m not speaking of a situation of a vendetta.)”kudos.
The only remaining question is if he claims to desire such, but either is lying, or anan sahdi that it is not going to happen) .
(I’m not actually asking this I know your answer)” No, because Rabbeinu Gershom is obviously correct. A husband shouldn’t divorce his wife if she doesn’t want to divorce.”
Are you saying the Torah’s approach has a flaw?
“There IS a Halacha that if a husband doesn’t want to divorce the wife is obligated to continue being his wife.”
that isnt the topic of conversation though.
The question is: if the marriage is over and he doesn’t want to divorce his wife, should he divorce her.
As phil put it “Can you tell me of what purpose does it do to keep a woman chained who doesn’t want to be married to the likes of you?”Ujm
That isn’t the question though.
There is no halacha that if he doesn’t want to divorce her he isn’t allowed to. (That is the discussion)
The question is in a “dead marriage” with no hope for the marriage continuing. If the husband is strictly speaking not required to give a get. Should he give one anyway.
In a previous thread you said no reason to. Here your comments seem to agree with your navul brushes hatorah contention
“And there’s nothing more logical than strictly following Halacha.”
Most people see through you.
You only insist on squarely following halacha when it inconveniences others (ideally women). Otherwise you insist on all sort of lifnum meshuris hadin. For example, do you support people who play music during selichos, although it is undoubtedly is “strictly following halacha” ? Lol of course not THEN you take a “strict” approach and insist on all sorts of chumras.
But when it comes to trapping a woman in a dead marriage, all of a sudden as long as it is within a strict bound of halacha it is ok.
ujm
Your’e right.
I can’t even imagine the rebeeim handing out something in English.
Yserbius
It seems we are about the same age
all of those points are accurate about my childhood
Except that for me Olomeinu was handed out Thursday afternoon by the English teacher
ujm
” …And catch up afterwards…”
Yep.
and of course many do meet on yom tov.
a few points.
1) you say “when you spend 40 minutes on barely understanding a daf a day how can you say you finsihed shas when you barely read the english and you didnt even understand every other line.” speak for yourself. You say ” i tried learning daf hayomi and it took me 2 1/2″ Not everyone struggles so much with the first daf of berachos like you do. Though Kudos to you for persevering. Some people can get a basic understanding of most dafim in 40 minutes. (though retention is a problem)
2) “wouldnt it be better to send 40 minutes everyday learning a mesechta roerly with tosfos and meforshim.” Yes, I don’t think anybody disputes that.
The key though is every day/. for many people such “every day” learning quickly becomes not every day, We just concluded a busy yom tov season, I doubt many who learn “40 minutes everyday learning a mesechta roerly with tosfos and meforshim” in fact did it everyday, then there are weddings, busy with kids , tired from the clock change3) “i dont understand the point of saying you learnt the whole shas when you understand a tenth of it.” a few points a. It creates a sense of accomplishment that drives the daily learning that takes no breaks for yom tov, weddings, or clock change. and b. Many (if not most) who have done daf yomi have at least a passing familiarity with shas. I think that is a good thing.
hope this helps you understand the reasons. If you dont think these are good reasons, thats fine of course.
“No and are you ok with car accidents, driving under influence, scammers, people dying from the flu or any other virus? ”
No
Thank you for your excellent example. In fact I am so not ok with people driving under the influence that even having an open bottle in your car is illlegal.
Why? Is it my business what you do in your car? Doesnt this infringe on your right to air your wine’s tannins on your way home? Isnt this your freedom s being taken away and basically what the Nazis did?Agree completely with this post
And it seems to be getting worse.
In my shul they keep trying the same failed solution with bigger and pibbigger circles, as if that would help all
What do you mean finally?
This study is months old and has been mentioned here.
Thank you for bringing attention to it, as it is an important step in showing the safety of the vaccine in pregnancy.
What I find confusing though is the scary headline. You seem to have accidently forgotten to mention “Calculated proportions of pregnancy and neonatal outcomes appeared similar to incidences published in the peer-reviewed literature ”
Did you not read that part?
Are you trying to mislead and scare people? If so arent you worried that someone willl call you out on it?“but very few (if any) addressed the halachic question”
The very first comment on the thread answered your “question”
with a halachic question the premise has to make sense, and be grounded in reality.
Even if for whatever reason you think the vaccine may cause fertility problems, (whether or not you think the new Oreo flavor does the same) It STILL isn’t a question.
People are not faulted for following doctors. Halacha in fact obligates you to do so.
Aye what do we do if Doctors disagree? Fear not ! halacha addresses that too!
CS
“you want o be infertile? no problem NIH has a list of all the clinical trials you can be part of,”huh?
Why is that aimed at me? Very confusing“I guess you never heard of long tail exposure that can take years to manifest itself,WTC toxins for example.”
OOh I’m excited to hear you background in science what kind of long term effects are found n those with 1 or 2 exposures to WTC toxins?
“Now I have some questions that I have as of yet not recieved rational answers to:”
Here to answer all your questions.
sure yo umay not like them, you are free to disregard rational answers, but they are there .It is your rejection of them that leads to your conclusions being called conspiracy theories
1. Genetic code cannot be patented. changes can, so patenting them allows those companies to profit of any tests /treatments. And viruses tha taffect animlas obviously have implications for humans, since we depend on animals for food.
2. Collaboration is good
3. scientists have predicted things for decades. When thye are wrong criticise if right doesnt mean they caused it. Enviromentalists make all sorts of predictions “The Arctic will be ice free by year x” If that happens does that mean they did it?
And right back at you, if He planned it why on Earth would he announce it publicly?4. I don’t know, did he fall in love with the head of ethics and married her, or did his wife get hired for the job. either seems rational .
5. Same as #3
hope this helps
“so the concern over this possible problem is genuine. ”
I dont fully understand this? why the concern? Just because it is new ?
I saw a new Oreo flavor “Apple Cider Donut Sandwich” To the best of my knowledge NO study has been done to know whether or not the cookie has any effect on fertility .So it would seem that the concern over this possible problem is genuine.
So here is the easy, halachic question: Is a person who loses fertility by eatign the cookie, and therefore loses the ability to carry out the mitzvah to be fruitful and multiply, in breach of halacha for eating the cookie?
Mizmor
thanks!
“The entire kehila needs to make a taanis if chas v’shalom such a thing happens.”
[citation needed]Its not new I grew up singing it. ITs called der heiliger niggun. Everyone in the shtibel sings it
Why are you sleeping late?
The rest of us are up at alos preparing for davening with tehilm and/or learning.
Feel free to do the sameAAQ
We aren’t arguing.
Yo favor staying indefinitely, as I said a reasonable case can be made for that.
absolutely no questionLostPark
“the CPA, lawyers and doctors all demand a charge when asked for help/advice.”
that has not been my experience at all. I get called for advice all the time, it never occured to me to charge
“A bit of advice, remain ignorant on these things or at least pretend to because you’ll be expected to do a lot of free work for people that can afford to pay for it.”
Wait, your advice is not to learn things os that you won’t feel pressured to help others?
Avreich
“for vitamin d deficiency. Contradicting themselves ”
Great question!
Here to help.
You are comparing “supplements ” to treating deficiencies. These are not at all the same
There is no question that vitamin deffincies are bad. Scurvy for example is due to vit c defficency this is very rare however. So for most people taking extra vitamin c doesn’t help anything..
Except vitamin D deff which is quite commonAAQ
” Indefinite war or end the war and let the Taliban take over… More reasonable choice was between (1) leaving while minimizing losses and (2) staying in small remote numbers supporting gov troops from the air. ”
Not sure why you rephrased my two choices.
choice 2: “staying in small numbers” until when? either indefinite (my first choice) , or until yo u chaneg your mind to Leave and let the taliban take over (my second choice)
choice 1 “leaving while minimizing losses” is what they attempted/did
Again you can disagree with the choice made and many reasonable people do.
Btu those are the only 2 choices. your rephrasing them doesn’t change it
Oc
That’s not what he says. He does bait and switch. If tylenol inhibits cox 2 is not at all clear there are tons of papers in both directions. (Kind of my point).
And why’d you leave thst sentence off? It’s not like you were limited by characters you pasted almost the entire thing but left off the very first sentence.
And again thsts but one example there are other medications whose moa is not exactly known
Oc
1. Whether or not tylenol is a good example of a medication which we don’t know the mechanism of action is not the point.2. You are not an honest person.
Your post surprised me since it’s a nonsensical cholent. You write that acetaminophen is a non opiate pain reliever (true), and explain how a different class of non opiate pain reliever (nsaids) workBut hey if a tufts professor said that, I was excited to learn sonething new. So I looked up the post you cited.
The OPENING SENTENCE is “The short answer to this question is that we don’t fully understand how acetaminophen works.”Did you not think I would look it up?
It’s hard to believe you missed the opening sentence