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December 21, 2021 8:05 am at 8:05 am in reply to: Public menorah lightings and rooftop menorahs #2043663ubiquitinParticipant
From the illustration itself it is unclear. The Rambam says explicitly that the illustration is to show the layout of the decorations (only?).
However the Rambam’s son writes that it also shows the Rambam’s view that it was diagonal
December 20, 2021 3:30 pm at 3:30 pm in reply to: Public menorah lightings and rooftop menorahs #2043541ubiquitinParticipant“But what about regarding the branches. Was that for illustration purpose or to show that the branches were straight and not curved as his son stated?”
Presumably his son would know better than us
December 19, 2021 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm in reply to: Public menorah lightings and rooftop menorahs #2043180ubiquitinParticipantRW
He wrote it in the same place as the sketch in Pirush hamishnayos
Menachos 3:7” I will depict the cups in a triangle, the knobs in a circle, and the flower in
a half-circle. I have done this to make the picture easier, since the purpose of the picture is not to
tell us the exact model of the cups, since I already explained it. Rather, the intent is to know the
number of cups, knobs, and blossoms”rough translation.
In other words, the sketch is not an accurate drawing, rather it’s point is to outline where the and how many of these decorations there were
ubiquitinParticipant“The 1st available allowed day for R”H has to be R”H? ”
Generally yes. Rosh Hashana is on the day of the molad Tishrei. I’m not a 100% sure wha t you are suggesting “why can’t the molad be on Sunday and not have r”h till tues?” Are you suggesting it just be arbitrary? why would Rosh Hashana be Tuesday if the molad was Sunday?
The Troah tells us “Hachodesh Hazeh Lachm” as the Gemara learns “Kezeh re’eh vekadesh” when the new moon is seen Beis din is mikadesh Rosh Chodesh. Today of course we (ie chazal) do it al pi cheshbon, but it still isnt arbitrary. The cheshbon is based on the molad * (either becasue a moment after that is the new mooon, although it is invisible for few hours, or because at some point on Earth the moon could be visible on Rosh Hashana which is sort of how the Baal Hamoar explains.
Regardless, the date of Rosh hashana is determined by the molad, al pi cheshbon. It is not arbitrary.
However as mentioned, and as outlined in Rambam Kiddush hachdesh perek 7. There are 4 dechiyos/postponements when Rosh Hashana is pushed off.
Most famously Lo adu Rosh
Second one is molad Zaken if molad is at noon or later R”H is pushed off (this can combine with the Lo adu Rosh for a 2 day push if Molad occurs after noon on Tuesday, R”H would be pushed to Wed, then Lo adu Rosh so pushed to Thursday.There are 2 other dechiyos that are more technical, and less common.
But none of these dechiyis are arbitrary. IF the molad is Sunday why would R”H be Tuesday?
“I messed up on my correction, too. Pesach can land on a Sunday, in which case Chanukkah on Tues should be possible in a leap year.”
Yes theoretically possible in a leap year, except to Rosh Hashanas on Tuesday in a row are impossible
* A good question is why this only applies to Rosh Hashana and not every month. which are somewhat arbitrary compared to the molad. I assume this is because the calendar would be way too complicated trying to adjust every month to coincide with the molad. As long As Rosh Hashana is accounted for , that enough.
.ubiquitinParticipant1 “why is it that pesach never lands on Sunday twice consecutively?”
Pesach on Sunday is linked to Rosh Hashana on Tuesday.
In order for Rosh Hashan to fall on Tuesday the molad has to occur between noon on Monday and at the latest noon on Tuesday * The molad from one tishrei to the next is never that close together it is either 4 days 8 hours 876 Chalaikm later in the week in a regular year and 5 days 21 hrs 589 Chalakim in a leap year.* in most years ie regular years it has to occur in an even narrower window until 204 chalakim after 3 AM (six hours note: this is using mean solar time) as mentioned in my earlier comment in this thread
2) “Why can’t Chanukah start on Tuesday?”
for Chanuka to start on Tuesday You would need Rosh Hashana on Tuesday and the year “shalem” meaning that cheshvan and Kislev both have 30 days* In such a year 1 Kislev would be Shabbos 22 Kislev would be 3 week late on Shabbos, 23 sunday, 24 Monday 25 Tuesday.
However such a year is impossible a shalem year has 355 days if regular and 385 days for leap year
For a regular year Rosh hashana would occur 355 days later ie 50 weeks and 5 days, which means Rosh Hashan would be Friday – an impossibility
For a leap year Rosh Hashana would occur 385 days later ie after exactly 55 weeks. That would mena Rosh Hashana on Wednesday – again impossible*It doesnt matter how many days Kiselv has for this , but the choices are 29 for both chesvan and Kislev 29 for Chesvan and 30 for Kislev or 30 for both. there is no possibility of 30 for cheshvan and 29 for Kislev
ubiquitinParticipantanswer to question 2 had some mistakes this is correct:
2) “Why can’t Chanukah start on Tuesday?”
for Chanuka to start on Tuesday You would need Rosh Hashana on Tuesday and the year “shalem” meaning that cheshvan and Kislev both have 30 days* In such a year 1 Kislev would be Shabbos 22 Kislev would be 3 week late on Shabbos, 23 sunday, 24 Monday 25 Tuesday.
However such a year is impossible a shalem year has 355 days if regular and 385 days for leap year
For a regular year Rosh Hashana would occur 355 days later ie 50 weeks and 5 days, which means Rosh Hashana would be Sunday – an impossibility
For a leap year Rosh Hashana would occur 385 days later ie after exactly 55 weeks. That would mean Rosh Hashana on Tuesday, while this is THEORETICLY possible, in reality it isnt becasue 2 Tuesdays back to back are impossible see Question 1*It doesn’t matter how many days Kiselv has for this , but the choices are 29 for both Cheshvan and Kislev 29 for Cheshvan and 30 for Kislev or 30 for both. there is no possibility of 30 for Cheshvan and 29 for Kislev
ubiquitinParticipantGoldilocks
Today you are!
It is all spelled out in Rambam Kidddush Hachodesh 7 wit hmefarshim there as well as end of hilchos Rosh chodesh in OC
first Tuesday- it is more common and a bit easier
The time between one molad and the next is 29 days 12 hours and 793 chalakim ( a chelek is 1/1080 of an hour which equal 3 and 1/3 seconds)
Since 28 days is 4 full weeks One month’s molad will occur 1 day 12 hours and 793 chalakim later in the week.
A regular year is of course 12 months, if you multiple 1 day 12 hours 793 by chalakim and remove full weeks)
You end up wit h4 days 8 hours 876 chalakimThus for example the molad Of Tishrei 5781 Was Thursday 20 hours 701 chalakim
If you add 4 days 8 hours 876 Chalaikm
you get molad tishrei 5782 which was Tuesday 5 hours 497 chalakimRosh Hashana 5781 was pushed off to Shabbos, since Molad occured after 18 hours (noon) and cant be Friday becasue Lo Adu Rosh
Rosh Hashana of this year 5782 was not pushed off and was on Tuesday, the day of the moladHowever if the molad occurs on a tuesday after 9 hrs 204 chalakim (G”T”RD gimmel is 3 for tues tes 9 for 9 hours 204 chalakim) Then Rosh Hashana That year would be Tuesday
The next molad occurs 4 days 8 hours 876 Chalaikm later in the week Whci his Shabbos, 18 hours 0 chalaikm. This is molad Zaken pushed to Sunday then Pushed to Monday Because of the first 2 dechuyos)
A Year that begins on Tuesday and whose final day is Sunday is 356 days long this is too long (options are 354 if all months alternate 29/30, 353 if bot h chesvan Kislev have 29 and 355 if both have 30)
So we push off Rosh Hashana from Tuesday thursdayThe monday Dechiya is rarer still, in fact it will not occur again until after 6000
The idea is the same except it comesu p after leap yearsthe difference between molad Tishrei before a leap year and after is 13 x (1-12-793) = 5 days 21 hrs 589 Chalakim
As mentioned Molad tishrei 5782 was Tuesday 5 hours 497 chalakim
NExt Year’s molad tishrei 5782 will be Monday 3 hrs 6 chalakimHowever if Molad of year after leap year is on Monday 15 hrs 589 chalakim or later
The previous years’ molad was 5 days 21 hrs 589 Chalakim earlier whci his Tuesday 18 hours.That Rosh hashana gets pushed off because molad zaken then lo adu Rosh to Thursday. If we keep the year after leap year on Monday the year is 382 days long this is too short options for leap year are 383 384 385 (regular year + 30) so we push off the year after leap year to tuesday
hope this helps
December 15, 2021 1:52 pm at 1:52 pm in reply to: Does a convert adopted by frum parents have a bashert? #2042007ubiquitinParticipantR’ Reisman once related that htis question came up when he hosted a couple both geirim, he or they asked if there marriage was bashert.
He asked them what they would rather, and both insisted they would rather it be bashert.
He asked (in the shiur, I’m not sure how much of this was in conversation with them) Who cares? certainly, its a bit interesting but practically why does it matter, to the point that they bot h were adamant that it was bashert.He mused aloud, that he thinks what drives this is that when things get tough/ hard, we can use it to feel better saying say “oh well, he/she is my bashert ”
This isn’t bad per se.
Just an interesting observation (at least I thought so)ubiquitinParticipantRE
“The variation of the two months above causes the movement of Rosh Hashanah as Adu lo Rosh”
Phrasing is backwards, Lo Adu Rosh (along with the other dechuyos) causes the variation of the two months.
ubiquitinParticipantAAQ
I don’t understand what your comment added.
I was responding to Kuvult ” had a choice like converting and choosing not to.” I didn’t mean that no one during the Holocaust had any choice on anything.
December 12, 2021 10:43 am at 10:43 am in reply to: 80 Years Today of Pearl Harbor Invasion #2040706ubiquitinParticipant“The Russians were losing until America joined WWII.”
Its hard to make that determination with certainty, and of course it is impossible to predict wha twould have happened.
Stalingrad is often considered the turning point on the Eastern front .The German 6th army was surrounded in November 1942. Germany’s momentum in North africa was already held up by the British at El Alemain.
American involvement against Germans began with Operation torch in November 42′ By then the German fate in Stalingrad was largely sealed.
Granted, it is possible that, the German attempt to relive Stalingrad in December 42 (Operation Winter storm) would have been more successful if troops weren’t tied up in North Africa, but again they were busy with the British anyway.
In August 42 Stalin begged the allies to open a second front in Western Europe but this didn’t happen until nearly 2 years later (By that time the tide was well in the USSR’s favor).
Again, it is impossible to say with certainty what would have happened, but the notion that the Russian were losing before American involvement isnt really true
ubiquitinParticipantujm
“What makes you think that returning money to a Baal Avoda Zora (i.e. a Christian) is a Kiddish Hashem, if returning it is halachically forbidden (even if you actually need to return it)?”
Because its explicit in the Rambam that I cite you whenever this discussion comes up. Rambam Gezeila 11:3
Kuvult
“People hate to hear it but its true…”
People hate to hear it because it isn’t true, it was made up oa few years ago by insecure people, in an effort to be provacative, so sure people hate it.
No one during the holocaust had a choice (almost no one) we have all heard our Roshei Yeshiva, Rebbehs, and leaders refer to the “6 million kedoshim” (see Rav Schwab and the Bobover Rebbe’s Kinnos, listen to the compendium of Rabbonim that aired at the last siyum hashas (available on youtube “siyum hashas holocasut tribute” including R’ Gifter, the Bluzhover Rebbe, R’ Schwab, and Yibadel L’chaim R’ Matisyahu Salmon all reffering to them as “kedoshim”)
ubiquitinParticipant“And just as RJBS found his two initials endearing, as ubiq said”
I never said that
” there’s nothing that changed posthumously”
Its not a posthumous change per se, it is the intent.“As long as you include that title Rabbi in front, it is not only perfectly correct”
I think most would agree with that.
for that matter Rabbi Moses Feinstein is fine too (as was written on his letterhead)ubiquitinParticipant“, Ner Israel never had college classes on campus. Never.”
“Never” is a bit strong, I took classes on campus (it was when the college had Winter break, as we had our own scheudl with semester going Sukos to Pesac, in order to finish on time.
Though, to be fair , while the hanala looked the other way, it was stressed that keeping it from the Rosh haYeshiva was a must.
A larger point that is being ignored is that Ner Yisroel has (had? ) an office with a guy whose job was to serve as a guidance counselor guiding with credits, classes etc etc. I dont think this exists in BMG.
UJM’s point “The general frum world (non-rabbis) generally referred to him during his lifetime as “Rabbi J.B. Soloveitchik”.” Is of course silly (As he knows)
Words, names chaneg all the time. in his life time, many talmidim referred to him as JB, it was a term of endearment. Today when said it is not. We all refer to Beloved Roshei Yeshiva as R’ Dovis, R’ Moshe R’ Aron, obviously we wouldnt refer to them in person that way. Just becasue a name is acceptable in one context (or era) does not mean that same name is ok in another.ubiquitinParticipantBY1212
” called a woman’s right to choose. It simply doesn’t exist.”
That isn’t limited to abortion.
A woman or man, has many “rights” that are halachically limited, what to eat, say, hear wear etc etc
ubiquitinParticipantOber the past decade or so ot has become the fashion in certain circles to limit the definition of Kiddush hashem.
Although Ujm’s definition is certainly correct, it is only partly so
For example: Rambam Gezeila 11:3 Where he says One may not return a lost item of a Goy’s unless returned to make a Kiddush Hashem, so that Goyim praise Jews as honest people (rough translation)
Clearly having goyim viewing Jews as good/honest people is a Kiddush HashemDecember 3, 2021 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm in reply to: Public menorah lightings and rooftop menorahs #2037788ubiquitinParticipantAvira
much better. Thanks
December 3, 2021 1:02 pm at 1:02 pm in reply to: Public menorah lightings and rooftop menorahs #2037756ubiquitinParticipantAvira
you contradict yourself
“but not something you are yotzei with anything other than the halacha of ner ish ubayso.”
VS.
“lighting anywhere besides their home and shul”
Shul isnt Bayso.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not in favor of these public displays (certainly not with a beracha r”l). I am in favor of honesty and saying that there is ONLY an idea of lighting at home is demonstrably false (as evidenced in your post)
December 3, 2021 9:32 am at 9:32 am in reply to: Public menorah lightings and rooftop menorahs #2037647ubiquitinParticipantCS
Your last “proof” proves nothing
“I challenge you to show proof of similar actions prior to 50 years ago”
There were just as many Goyisher symbols prior to 50 years ago. So obviously competing with them can’t be the reason (using your “logic”)/
Whatever explanation you have for why NOW they feel the need to compete can be used to explain why we have not seen The Chofetz Chayim et al doing it
ubiquitinParticipant“So… We get to play god and decide who is better off alive, and who is better off dead…”
No we can’t, and nobody here suggested we should. We must evaluate each case independently with a very competent Rav. If there was a way to legislate that abortion is only allowed with the approval of a qualified orthodox Rabbi, that would be my vote (I imagine yours too)
ubiquitinParticipantGH
“there is an explicit de minimis waiver in halacha”
Of course there is. Lo nitna Torah L’malachei hashres. an imperceptible change isnt a change
If it was you couldn’t enter a house with air conditioning on Shabbos, your body gives of heat, causing the air conditioner to work harder.none of this is new, this has been discussed with riding in a car or bus on Shabbos
ubiquitinParticipantGH
“Obviously, one or even five additional passengers on a wide-body aircraft won’t materially affect fuel consumption”fantastic so you agree
ubiquitinParticipantAvira
““religion” as a separate entity from state has no place in a Jewish hashkofa.”That’s true from a halachic standpoint, not legal one.
YOU were the one who quoted an argument that “Goyim say…” If your response to the argument was well halacha argues, that would be that. Needless to say in an argument where goyim say one hting and halacha says another, there is no argument. But you replied to the Goyim’s argument with a logical one “That argument is not only evil, vut very unintelligent ” NOT a haalchic one.
To which I pointed out that your response did not automatically hold true.Note: Nowhere in my comments did I make a halachic argument one way or the other. The discussion is way above my paygrade, the discussion isnt new leading poskim have spoken., and contiue to address it as situations arise.
I just commented on a few errors in logic you made,
Plus of course replied to the OP whose comment was more wishful thinking than factAs for R’ Moshe being the final say in psak, you don’t actually think this is true? There are plenty of cases where “The velt” hasnt accepted R” Moshe timers comes to light. My father saw R’ Bluth Z”l leave early at a wedding, he asked him if he made Sheva Berachos (They new each other from MTJ, R’ Moshe holds should say make Sheva berachos OC 1:56) He said “The olam isnt noheg like that” and he was a close talmid.
ubiquitinParticipant“The velt has accepted Rav Moshe’s Psak on abortion.”
If by velt you mean you personally, then you MIGHT be correct (I doubt you’re even correct on that see insult thread).
If you mean the Frum society, then you are completely incorrect.Granted I cant convince you, since you havent encountered anyone in such a situation but here is some food for thought:
Pick up ANY medical halacha sefer, they all go on a long arichus on the subject. Obviously every individual case needs to be judged individually. (always true but especially here). If you really think in practice “the velt” follows R’ Moshe why does every modern sefer eg R” Zilbershtein, R’ Asher Weiss all still discuss it? These are practical halachik teshuvos, not stam l’hagdil Torah. R’ Moshe was nifter over 30 years ago. If you are right Any modern shaeila on abortion should be: ” Already paskened see Ig”m”ubiquitinParticipantUavira
Ignore A in my pending post, you meant chazaka d’hashta (not mikira) meaning NOW it’s alive so we assume over the past 9 months irs alive.
I’m not sure that would work as a generalization meaning “all fetuses are alive” because babies are (which is what you are arguing), particularly as at SOMe point it isn’t alive 40 days? And we are trying to figure out WHEN that changes.but even if it did work , it’s a religous argument, as explained in B in pending post
ubiquitinParticipantAvira
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There’s a reason why almost everyone was machnia to him (R Moshe)Not on this issue
Ujm
But the Supreme Court declaring a constitutional right to life is very very conceivab”
Supreme Court is less likely. Could you 8mafine the right wing outrage if they tried to legislate from the bench (kidding of course). Overthrowing roe would be monumental enough a complete 180 is hard to imagine
ubiquitinParticipant“It’s not “what is this inside me” everyone knows that there’s a baby developing”
Yes a baby is developing. Not developed, developing. At what point is this developing baby considered a life.
Halachicly it is clearly a intermediate stage,, it is a “davar shell bo l-olam” you can’t acquire things for it. If it is threatening life it can be killed, yet once born something changes now they are threatening each other.And you use the term chazaka dimikira. A. That is not how chazaka works chazaka doesn’t tell you things retroactively ot has the chazaka NOW and more importantly b. I’m not Asking you for a halachic reason, I’m familiar with the poskim, including what is followed in practice. My question is from a societal standpoint which is what your argument was addressing. You said if unsure if its a life,, then abortion should be illegal just like killing a person who might be asleep or dedicated is illegal. This is not a halachic argument. As you opened that section ” Goyim often use the line of “it’s not a baby, it looks like a fish”, and they say that the burden of proof of what’s considered alive falls on us who wish to forbid.” Responding to them with a chazaka dmikira (even if used correctly) doesn’t help
ubiquitinParticipantUJM
“Ubiq: Abortion should be illegalized at the federal level. ”
Mazel tov, it won’t happen though . you can wish for whatever you like of course .
Even if Congress tried to pass such a law, it is a tough argument that the federal government has a right to make it illegal given the 10th amendment as akuperma pointed out.Avira
“It’s like if someone tells you that there’s a sleeping person aside 10 dead bodies, ”no its not like that, its like you telling me I cant , I don’t know take methotrexate because I have a living person inside me. What ? prove it thats bizzare a living person inside me I never heard of such a thing how did it get there? You woudl have to prove somehting so outlandish to try to control what I do (Om a male btw)
You have a chidush that this “clump of cells” (at least at some point in its development) that is totally dependent on its mother for survivial is morally a life. That is a chidush. Prove it.(to be clear I’m not actually asking you to prove it, I’m pointing out that your simplistic approach doesn’t hold up to mild scrutiny)
“I don’t see how social considerations factor in to a discussion of murder”
Abortion is clearly not black and white murder. Halacha has a very complicated and nuanced approach some poskim take viability into account, some consider the mother’s mental health, some are meikil before 40 days, soem differntiate between Jew and goy. None of these are relevant in murder (As you sort of point out) Yet many factor them in with abortion. So you come up with some halahcic gedr its sort of murder, its not murder at all but we have no right on our bodies generally speaking. Whatever halachic justification you make, ok so make a similar “moral” or secular one.Health
“It will happen in Red states, because the poor people who Rely on Medicaid to finance their abortions won’t get them!”As it is Medicaid funds rarely cover abortions, and don’t worry I’m sure planned parenthood would be happy to make up the difference.
ubiquitinParticipantujm
thats when I’m dan you lkaf zchus
Halevai
maskim, pretty insultingubiquitinParticipant“and we’ll have less babies murdered.”
Its doubtful that will happen.
IT will just make it harder for people who need/want abortions to get them, *That may be a good thing, but unlikely that there will be less abortions .
“blue” states will all allow abortions, All that will happen is those in “Red states” will go to blue states to get them or get illegal ones.
ubiquitinParticipant“but when it’s time for the election/campaign promotion they suddenly remember that they’re Jewish.”
what election? What campaign? Is there an election coming up?
ubiquitinParticipant2scents
“This would be “marbe B’shiurim””
what is the melacha that he is being marbe? bishul on the fuel? The Thrust is the same, just needs (negligibly) more fuel to achieve it
Agree on deplaning
ubiquitinParticipantTechum?
– No techum in the air, though if takes off on shabbos is a problem on the runway. Even if argue that are 10 tefachuim off the ground, if plane sitting on ground may be a problemCausing the plane to burn more fuel?
– not sure what melacha that would be? Mavir is it mavir if more fuel gets consumed to do the same “work”? (obviously the plane is doing more work from a scientific standpoint, but I don’t think halacha recognizes that.
for example if I have two cars one gets 30 mpg the other gets 20 mpg is it a bigger melacha to use the less fuel efficient car to drive the same distance? seems doubtful. And of course the amount is negligible
At any rate this has long been discussed regarding cars and busses and Poskim say it is not an issue, comes up with choleh going to hospital or accompanying a child (although are other issues with getting in car/bus on Shabbos)hotzaah,
– don’t carry outdoors, on the plane is not an issue a plane is not a reshus harabim nor a karmelis nor are you going between reshus hayahcidsMuktze
– Put stuff in a bag that is bassis for heter and issur.not sayign it is 100% muttar, it definitely isnt shabbosdig, but the issurim are not as great as made out.
It seems to be imore of an inconvenience (understatement) than issurubiquitinParticipantheard from Papa, if you make a staute to commemorate the worlds tallest person, who stood almost 9 feet tall. You don’t say, “well 6 feet is regular height so lets makea 3 foot tall statue”
heard from Maccabees II it was a delayed celebration of Sukkos. This also explains Beis Shamai’s shita that we count down like “parei hachag” what does Sukkos have to do with anything?
heard this from Bnei Yissoschar too.ubiquitinParticipantTVP
“Firstly, in no way shape or form did he violate any civil rights.”
I never said they would win the lawsuit against him. sorry if that wasnt clear” I’m pretty sure that burning down buildings isn’t a “right”. ”
no but living is.” And the jury already determined that he was not the instigator.”
This would be a new jury, obviously. And while I would yield to a lawyer of course, I’m pretty sure that under a new trial (as there would be should the families sue) they don’t pick up where the old trial LEft off. “Ok so we concluded Kyle was not the instigator, now should he be civility liable…”
another jury might find that he WAS the instigator (to be clear I’m nto saying he was of that they would) and IS civilly liable
furthermore you are reading more into the verdict than there is. all they said is “not guilty” thats it that doesn’t mean thye accepted all or even any of the defense’s claims. Presumably they did, but the verdict doesn’t somehow encompass that. Not aonly that it doesnt even mean he isnt nt guilty of say first degree intentional homicide, it means he isnt guilty “beyond a reasonable doubt. For vcivil case you dont need “beyond a reasonable doubt” .So even if a second jury found him guilty (not saying they would) the juries would NOT be arguing He could be guilty based on the “preponderance of the evidence” which is “not huilty” when it comes to criminal charges but guilty when it comes to civil.
Fiannly although “negligence” did come up a bit in the trial, as it was a criminal trial the bulk of the case was whther he acted intentially or even recklessly. Even if he was neither of thsoe , he could still have been negligent wh mkes him ily liable
So to sum up. I am not saying he will be sued nor that if sued he would lsoe.
I am saying he could and might be sued.
ubiquitinParticipant” what are/can his victims suing him for??”
For violating their civil rights.
Before you say, he had too , hislife was in danger, Yes that is what his lawyers will argue, and probably win. That doesn’t mean he can’t be sued
ubiquitinParticipant“Since all the Libs that post here have a different view of Justice – Namely Rittenhouse is Guilty beyond a doubt”
Is that true? that all the libs here posted that?
” but tell us all the reasons, just like OJ.”
OJ told you the reasons, the perp in Waukesha is not guilty? what were the reasons OJ gave?
ubiquitinParticipant“Was justice served because the jury found him innocent or because the law is that the jury gets to decide guilt or innocence?”
I like this question. I think its hard to answer in general
In this case its easy because it is both. Other cases are harder take the OJ case, we all know OJ did it (he has since basically admitted it) Though even then we have a rule of law, and it is harmful if elected officials undermine it (though carefully expressing confusion/disappointment at a jurt’s verdict would be fine I think)
There is a third possibility though Wikipedia translates justice more broadly as “people receive that which they deserve” Of t his I’m not sure. I don’t think Kyle is complelty innocent, I think he went looking for trouble (I grant I can’t prove this its just the vibe I get, though worth noting even if I could prove it say he told a friend “I’m going to Kenosha to show them whose boss” or something like that it still likely wouldn’t, and probably shouldn’t affect the actual verdict.) However If he isnt completely innocent it is “unjust” (in this broad sense) that he walks away scot free
But using the two defitnions of “justice” you provided “justice served because the jury found him innocent ” or “the law is that the jury gets to decide guilt or innocence” in both cases justice was served
ubiquitinParticipantThe daf * reminded me of this thread
DY
Thanks for the mareh makom last year. I saw it and appreciated then I thought I replied(* and date Nov 22 which is the date mentioned in the Beis Yosef as the start day (not date as the start was the previous night) of Vesein tal umatar, however this date is not today obviously, as we do not start vesein tal umatar today)
ubiquitinParticipantoh
haNever mind It was on page 2
I feel sillyI guess Ive done sillier things than thank twice
ubiquitinParticipantRE
NoUJM
good addition, more of a “need” than most seforim here.
I dont really get this thread.
Everybody “needs” to own a pnei Yehoshua?IF this thread was seforim that its nice for a ben torah to have sure definitely pnei Yehoshua, Tzlach. Though even then I don’t think its a “need” and certainly not for “every frum house”
ubiquitinParticipantThese issues don’t make so much sense
Kovetz meforshim? On which mesechta? All of them?
Rashba?
Ritva?
Tzlach?
Pnei yehoshua?
Not to mention Tanya and lkutei sichos?For EVERY home?
No wayMuch more important than any of the above is shemiras shabbos kihilchoso (English or Hebrew depending on proficiency)
Some modern likutim on practical halacha as another poster mentionedubiquitinParticipantVery well put Avira.
The only thing , I have to add is it reminds me of George Zimmerman, there’s a bit of a hole in the system. You have loser waanabe-cops who get involved in a confrontation, naturally they can’t actually fight, so when they are losing, they can fall back on their gun and (legitimately) claim self defense .
He is no hero.
Though I doubt he’s walking away rich he will be sued by the victims and will be swamped with legal fees for some timeubiquitinParticipant“It is pretty clear at this point that the natural immunity (without a vaccine for those who had Covid) are indeed doing something, ”
no question.
I never said or implied otherwise.I’m not sure why you keep mentioning this. Did the OP have prior covid? IT doesnt say that in the post, unless I missed it.
ubiquitinParticipantGlad your feeling well enough to work from home
I had meant to wish you refuah sheleima in my initial response.
I’m orry I ignored that and only commented on the more technical parts of your OPubiquitinParticipant“I tested positive for COVID a few days ago and was vaccinated. My symptoms are worse than my wife who was not.”
your comparison is not the correct one
Everyone is different. I had Covid in MArch h2020, I had a mild cough (only tested myself on a whim becasue I had access to a test) I had friends who had it and were much sicker. I saw people die. Comparing one person to another doesn’t tell us anything. You need to look at populations.The relevant question is what were YOUR symptoms compared to what your symptoms would have been if you weren’t vaccinated. Now obviously there is no way to know this with certainty. but at this point there is pretty good data that shows that the vaccinated as a group are not as sick a unvaccinated. The CDC has a long list of studies showing this.
“All my children now have natural immunity, so why would I subject them to vaccinations that don’t seem to do anything?”
So don’t
b. It is pretty clear at thsi point that the vaccines are indeed doing something, the vaccinated, AS A GROUP, have less infections, less symptoms, less hospitalizations and less death.“what is the point of the vaccines?”
Reduce infections symptoms, hospitalization and deathubiquitinParticipantujm
“Reb Eliezer, do the bochorim in Chasan Sofer today still daven Nusach Ashkenaz? 90% of the student body today is Chasidish.”Nobody* in Chasan Sofer davens Nusach Ashkenaz this was true at least for the past 30 years. So much so, that I though the vast majority of Jews all davened nusach sefard, since that is all I saw growing up. I knew of a few shuls that davened Ashkenaz but these were by far the exception in BP, and nobody I knew in Chasan Sofer davened in them.
(* Obviously when I say nobody I’m generalizing Its possible there is one kid in some grade but the vast vast majority davened Nusach sefard, and I imagine it has only increased since then)
ubiquitinParticipantUjm
A quarter for sure.
Dime possibly.Though my point is not what I would pick up, my point is (almost?) Nobody would pick up a penny, it’s so useless
ubiquitinParticipant“I think even a nickel isn’t worth it”
Agreed, though this thread isn’t about the worthlessness of nickels, it is about pennies.
Though while I probably wouldn’t be bothered to pick up a nickel, I’m sure many would. A peneey wouldn’t be picked up by anybody (other than coin collecting purposes)ubiquitinParticipantWill everything be rounded off to the nearest dollar now?
No it will be rounded to the nearest multiple of 0.05 (5 cents), which often happens anyways
“Will anyone miss the penny?”
Other than coin enthusiasts no. Pennies are so worthless, that most people don’t even bother to pick one up off the ground, that minimal effort is not wort h a cent to most people.
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