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ubiquitinParticipant
DY
Exactly my point!
Of course if you do not know, (as is the case with most people and most products) then a hechsher is useful.
ubiquitinParticipantRD,
“No reason why a bread made from tapioca or coconut flour couldn’t be marketed to the public for Pesah.”
so who is stopping you? If you beleive that to be the case, go for it!
ubiquitinParticipantapushatayid, I have news for you. Your kosher supervision has been in business for a while and everybody who has ever eaten in your home has relied on it.
Also please note, you dont need to be a Rabbi. The din is not “Rav echad neeman bissurim”
Also keep in mind. If food is kosher there is no need for a formal hechsher, and if not all hechsherim in the world won’t help.
ubiquitinParticipantLol PBA
That is where the discussion occured
ubiquitinParticipantThis converstion is absurd.
The OP proves that locking makes sense. Here we have a well intentioned individual who would never go into someones’s bedroom without permission and all the more so when explicitly told not to, and yet accidently he almost did.
SG you should be thankful they locked the door presumably otherwise youd have gone in (albeit by accident)
This of course would’ve led to some other fellow posting here how he leant his apt and explicitly gave instructions not to go in and yet the person did.
Oh I can here the replies:
“how do you know, you should be dan lekaf zechus…”
“Maybe he was looking for the guest room and got lost”
“Oh that’s whay I don’t lend out my apt…”
and of course:
“You should have locked the door”
ubiquitinParticipantR’ Nota Greenblat is behind the K on tabasco sauce
ubiquitinParticipantwow oops sorry i missed that.
I stand by my answer though
ubiquitinParticipantBY Nedarim we look out how people speak. When someone says “I would email it to her as soon as I arrived in the office” There is no confusion in anybody’s mind that he means “if he had not already by then” That is understood and assumed by all.
ubiquitinParticipant“Am I the only one really bothered by this?”
Most probably. Im sure if you look hard enough you may find someone who is a little bothered, but really bothered, I highly doubt it
ubiquitinParticipantJMH
Fantastic! nailed it +10000000000
haifa girl
well done you too made me laugh
ubiquitinParticipantfrumguy
If every single day I had a minimum of 3 standing appointments during which I recited the same exact predetermined text in front of the king/judge, then yes after a while (5 years? 10? 20?) I would start mumbling ina way that didnt SOUND like I was having kavana
note: I am not saying this is right just answering your question:
“Would they use this tactic standing in front of a human king or judge (lehavdil)?”
without a doubt yes!
ubiquitinParticipantOOM Youve got it wrong
Shopping was upset before selicos’s comment. She started several posts on the same topic that were ignored. One was closed as soon as opened since was same as two others she started
After another post was ignored she bumped in and wrote “i still agree and why does everyone ignore my posts?” THEN selichos wrote his comment which was reasonable and fair other than the fact that he presented it as coming from everybody.
He should have written:
“I feel that I must address you. I see your incessant posts and I feel you hang out in the CR too much. That’s why the topics are boring to you because the CR is meant to briefly check into every couple days or so, just to see whats happening. You, on the other hand practically live here.
So please, find something to do and don’t check the CR every 5 minutes, and please don’t post unless you have something original, humorous, and appropriately mature, that other people would appreciate reading.
All the best to you. On behalf of Selichos”
This is a reasonable respnse to her question as to why the same post she posted several times was being ignored.
ubiquitinParticipantThis childish blackamil won’t make you more popular.
when/if you come back do it because you want to not to do us any favors
ubiquitinParticipantNechoma assuming a lateish 11:00 bedtime the fast is >22 hours
ubiquitinParticipantI’m with PBA
ubiquitinParticipantRD
Thank you
OOmis
For how long should I wait? I am definately not holding my breath
Wandering chana
LOL! He will get less jail time than Pollard and there will be no outcry. (other than from Young Israel etc)
ubiquitinParticipantOOmis have you heard anyone make this conection?
Snowden has been allover the media Every angle seems to have been reported including is past girlfirends his upbringing etc…
I not once have heard any mentio of Pollard. Have you?
I dont get why people are trying to link the two? The two are in no way connected they involve different circumstances and an almost 30 year difference.
ubiquitinParticipantRd the source you cite days the opposite of what you allege. That says Hr spied on China not for.
ubiquitinParticipantPollard spied in the 80’s Almost 30 years ago. There is no connection between the two.
Rebdoniel, you are the first I have heard allege that Pollard gave anything to China.
ubiquitinParticipantAkuperma,
Which is it First you say: “All academic institutions, in all cultures “frown” on students dropping out and “working” …You’ve abandonned the honorable and worthy life of scholarship for something as mundane as making money.”
Then you say “What’s different is that they are in cultures in which making money is the highest goal, and we are in a culture in which scholarship is the most respected activity.”
your idea is wrong but at least be consistent
ubiquitinParticipanttzaddiq the 7 aren’t taynis at all. All have been replied to but here goes for convenience sake:
1) This point is irrelevant since this discussion isnt really about what needs to be done for school but rather what is best for your children and society.
That being said according to the Law cited by Mameleh the exceptions are for medical concerns certified by physician. And “genuine and sincere religious beliefs ” held by the parents, none of these seem to apply to you or chance. Any religious views you think you have opposing vaccines have no connection to Judaism and should be corrected. (If you have some foreign religious views that is another story).
2) The vaccine isnt perfect. Nothing in life is.
3) It has been studied ad nauseum. Do a pub med search. I checked the inserts nobody has died during vaccine trials.
4) It isnt sad, people who dont vaccinate are callous about their children and others against ALL medical advice. It is frustrating when many children get sick from an entirely preventable illness.
5) It affects other children too and can cause a problem in pregnancies. Some disease such as Polio saying you dont care if your child gets the disease makes you either ignorant or callous about your own children. This is what leads to attitudes such as frumnotyeshivish’s and if you say you dont care if your kid gets polio, then I agree with him and your children should be taken away from you.
6) We beleive God gave us the abbiltiy to discover vaccines. Your “argument” is an argument against all of medicine (Clearly allowed by the Torah) and for that matter cooking or baking the wonderful raw food Hashem has provided, or pretty much doing anything.
7)”vaccines kill, maim, and destroys the immune system. ” Wrong vaccines strengthen the immune system. and that is not written on the vaccine insert. You say listen blindly, but we have studies on our side. You have Jenny Mcarthy.
Hope this helps
ubiquitinParticipantZD
It was in yated a few months ago in respnse to a chinuch roundtable discussion.
ubiquitinParticipantyekke2
Ok granted
Halevai, not explaining all the jokes, just the ones that went over peoples heads
ubiquitinParticipantNote even the real aveirahs are “done” in an absurd manner. “I eat Gid Hanashe in every bite” Where would you get gid hanashe from, and imagine the guy who makes sure every bite contains some. It is absurd and thus funny.
I dont think there was any real plausible aveirah in the song
ubiquitinParticipantGot it i misread thank you
ubiquitinParticipantwriter soul
You say “Most people I know of were livid about that map- like my dad was annoyed because now burglars know to just make their way to our hose.”
I’m confused do you mean burglars know to AVOID your house, since your dad has a gun? In which case isnt publicizing it a good thing?
ubiquitinParticipantJewishfeminist02
Very well said.
ubiquitinParticipantTzadiq,
you live in LaLa land IVe encountered several pediatricians in my travels all have warned me of what to expect with vaccinations.
Im curious what bad reactons you think are listed in the vaccine inserts. Speak to Doctors most are quite forthcoming if not find one who is.
chance, “Died during the trial” Lol! though I think youv’e outed yourself as a troll.
ubiquitinParticipantChance,
I am not following your “logic” So if you contact an infection that Hashem created you wouldn’t take antibiotics that you believe man created?
ubiquitinParticipantChance
“don’t you believe that our body is created perfectly?”
Your “argument” is an argument against ever going to a doctor or getting medical treatment.
And besides dont you believe that God created vaccines
ubiquitinParticipantJewsih feminist,
What is the issue if he is ok with people knowing who he is?
June 17, 2013 1:04 pm at 1:04 pm in reply to: Endorsing Political Candidates and Anti-Torah Values #959681ubiquitinParticipantsimcha613
We are in agreement
I was replying to the OP
June 16, 2013 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm in reply to: Endorsing Political Candidates and Anti-Torah Values #959672ubiquitinParticipantI have never heard of a politician who doesn’t voiolate Torah values. Check the Torah, opposition to toeiva is not the only value in it
ubiquitinParticipantQuestions question questions.
When youre done, do some more questions
When youre done that, do some more
Do them timed and of course review the answers
I used Kaplan and was very happy
Stay away from SDN more misinformation than real information
Good Luck
ubiquitinParticipantAz
Youre hillarious
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However I always viewed the other point as the more major one., I dont see how you can find contradiction there. In fact I’ll go one further the question about dating divide (which Ive called “more fundamental”) Is NOT a giant gaping hole in your “theory,” Nor does it throw a wrench nor poke a hole in it. It (if unsuccessfully answered) takes a wrecking ball to the whole edifice, since while the “age gap” MAY explain unmarried people. It DOES NOT at all explain the Dating divide. (Have I really not said this?)But its ok I had to beg and plead with you to get n answer that was more of a guess to my more minor kasha, which frankly wasnt super satisfying (though acceptable)
Please dont lecture about intellectual dishonesty when it took you 6 pages of posts to finally address one of my points and you are still afraid to address another one.
DY, Gd bless him, has been here from the start patiently addressing each point while he may be wrong, his attempts have been gallant. You, AZ waltzed in asserting this age gap business and repeatedly refused to answer questions posed making those who agree with you look dishonest by association. Shame on you
Hatzlacha Rabba in your thougts, May the Ribono Shel Olam hinder you in your avodaas haraah
DY
answered or “answered” ? It has been addressed though I dont recall an answer?
ubiquitinParticipantSimbin I am not sure if you are serious but Is the moon a physical object?
ubiquitinParticipantSorry AZ
That was my minor Kasha and i dont view it as sufficently answered but I do see how you dont view it as a question. So further discussion on that point is futile.
ubiquitinParticipantThank you AZ.
What was the growth rate then?
ubiquitinParticipantPBA
I dont know since i have never discussed this with admissions commitee.
Here are my two cents Touro is viewed as worse than other colleges. I’m not saying it should be but it is. That being said would a BETTER GPA from touro be better than a lower one from say Brooklyn, (Princeton?)could certainly be, probably depends on the difference. (Though if what ytrwewq says is true, why would it be easier to get a higher GPA from touro, and if it is easier to get the higher GPA, there is your answer as to why it is looked down upon).
You say “far better positioned across the MCAT scale”, The MCAT is the great equalizer and would probably be given more weight from a less known college. How can you compare a 4.0 from touro to a 3.5 from PRinceton? By looking at their MCAT scores. In such a scenario it will be given more weight not less.
Also a few more points to the OP
1)Extracurricular are importnat Theres no need to go crazy, but you do need to show you have some interest in medicine and have an idea what medical field is like. Shaddow a Doctor, volunteer a bit at a hospital etc. You have time to worry about this since you havent even begun undergrad yet, but dont wait to the last minute. This will also give you something to discuss on interviews.
2) Be prepared to discuss what you have been doing over the past 7 years or so. Many academics do appreciate studying for its own sake, but spiritual betterment of the world may be a tough sell. Just be prepared to many it may sound like youve been slacking unless you carfeully frame what youve done. For obvious reasons admissions comittee’s abhor slackers
3) Read lopman24’s post above, his tone is harsher than I wouldve put it but I agree with all he wrote.
4) I cant stress this enough be flexible
5) It can absolutely be done
ubiquitinParticipantfriends who have been down that route. (I didnt go to touro)
touro is a huge strike against, though not a fatal one.
To be clear i am saying what Health said “If you would not CONSIDER moving from the tri-state area. I would reccomend against pursuing medical school” This is assuming ANY undergraduate program.
If you are limiting yourself to touro AND plan to limit yourself to the trisate area, please please don’t!
Your dream is certainly possible and achievable and if it is what you want it will be well worth it! But you absolutely must be flexible/open minded for it to work. Of course this may not be possible when married and have children, you have to be realistic. If you can be flexible go for it!
ubiquitinParticipantPBA
I wouldnt say fine, though there is hope.
I would say dont bother if you are only willing to consider the 15 or so MD schools in the tristate area.
coming fro touro you absolutly must be willing to broaden your horizons, consider smaller jewish communities, DO schools or Israel.
If you can not consdier those possibilities please please dont follow that path
ubiquitinParticipantMameleh
no because For that girl entering kindergarden there is another boy who entered kindergarten four years earlier.
Look If you say there always were 10% of girls who never got married but what changed is the number of girls included in that 10%, which has increased drasticly over the past 30 years, I would disagree but at least i’d here where they(you?) were coming from. Although the numbers havent actually changed, the number of people affected has to the point that now it is a “crises”.
Are you saying that 30 years ago 10% of girls didn’t get married?
If not what changed:
1) Age difference between couples
2) Less year to year increase in population(or rather I suppose over 4 years, though not 30 years as AZ and DY are saying that is irrelevant)
3) Something else
I say 3, and have discussed at length what I believe 3 to be.
I have a few follow ups to save a few posts, if you so please.
If you say 2 what was the yearly increase then. (The data provided by DY/AZ/NASI says 4% currently)?
If 3, what do you believe the change to have been?
ubiquitinParticipantDY
But for each individual couple dating there is no discernable difference in family size unless the 60 year olds date the 30 year olds. In that case, yes I’d accept that on average 60 year oldscome from smaller families than 30 year olds. It is absurd to say that the family size difference between 24 year olds dating 20 year olds is today is vastly different than 24 year olds dating 20 year olds 30 years ago.
Lets plug in years which may help you:
currently boys born in 1989 are dating Girls born in 1993. Is there a different in their family sizes? Lets say there is. Let us call this (a)
30 years ago, in 1983 (when there was no talk of a crises) Boys born in 1959 were dating girls born in 1963. Was their a difference in their family sizes sure! LEt us call this (b)
Did families increase since from 1963 to 1993? Sure! But that is compltly irrelevant to the discussion at hand The people born to the larger 1993 families are not dating those born to the smaller 1963 families.
What matters to us is the difference between (a) and (b).
The only family growth that matters to our discussion is the family growth between the years 89′- 93′ vs 59′ – 63′. These are tow seperate subsets that are not marrying each other thus any family change between 63′ and 93′ is irrelevant. Are you saying that Families in 93 were bigger compared to 89′ as opposed to families in 63′ not being as big compared to families in 59′ in other words are you saying that (a)>> (b)?
ubiquitinParticipantyear to year? No it doesnt.
over 4 years? (the age disparity between couples upon which this discussion is based)also not.
So basically no family size has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Sure if 60 year olds where marrying 30 year olds there would be a huge problem. But when 24 year olds marry 20 year olds, if there hasnt been a problem when 30 years ago when the 24 & 20 year olds came from smaller familes, there shouldnt be a problem now. (although again, the same problem would appear bigger now, but youd have to assert that unless something else changed, 30 years ago 10% of girls remained single like you claim today)
ubiquitinParticipantfirst of all you have to consider whether you are willing to relocate. Especially With a degree from touro you have to be open to the possibility of medical school in Chaifa/Tel aviv or at the very least not in the tri state area. Also do not overlook DO schools.
If you would not CONSIDER moving from the tri-state area. I would reccomend against pursuing medical school
(Of course residency you would have the same thing all over again)
ubiquitinParticipantAZ
I missed that point when you made it, My apologies, had I caught it I would undoubtedly have pointed out the absurdity of that statement.
Smaller families wouldnt affect percentages. Are you saying 10% of girls (or whatever you claim the current percentage to be) remained single 30 years ago, and all that has increased is the number of people that represents?
According to the stats you/NASI/DY/ Dr. Halpert (I dont remember whom exactly to credit but you all seem to agree) The population increase year to year is 4%. Of course over 30 years this leads to bigger families. But year to year the situation 30 years ago wouldve been the same as today unless the year to year growth shifted drastically. Is that what you are saying happened?
If so when did this occur? And do you have any data to back it up?
(again I am not asking about family sizes since that has no bearing whatsoever on our discussion)
ubiquitinParticipantmiritchka,
It was never exact so it was always possible to have been a day off. That being said the calendar isnt perfect since even tekufas Rav Ada (which is used to sync 12 lunar mnths with approximatly with a solar calendar 365 days 5 hours 55 minutes and change) is still slightly longer than the actual solar year of 365 days 5 hours 46 minutes and change. Thus over time the Jewish months are inching slightly forward relative to the Solar months/seasons.
With enough time Pesach will no longer be in chodesh haaviv and will be in the summer then fall then winter no doubt we will once again be mekadersh with reiah upon moshiach’s arrival long before this becomes a problem
Nothing changed in the year 2000 in this regard
ubiquitinParticipantNo problem, change my 15 above to 30
ubiquitinParticipantDY
Im not admiting it defies logic. Im pointing out that all the math in the world can not change facts on the ground. And the facts are that somehow in spite of an “age gap” there was no shiduch crises 15 years ago. Period.
You can disagree with the facts (which youve sort of done but with some hesitation in defining what exactly has changed) However to say the facts can not be true becuase they defy math is silliness
ubiquitinParticipantIn other words I guess what I am saying is that real life doesn’t always follow math. Sometimes in life 2+2 can equal 5. Facts cannot just be ignored becuae of math. The odds of your having been born are infinitesimally small (Think of all the people in all generations who had to meet whose exact sperm of millions had to combine with the right egg, over generations and generations.) Based on math I have proven you dont exist! Yet here we are. (granted not the best mashal, perhaps the pizza reply was better). At a certain point reality has to be taken into account.
Now if the age gap demographics have existed (you insist that something changed but arent sure what, fine. But I am certain nothing has and until presented with evidence to the contrary, see no reason to change that view.) and yet their was no “shiduch crises” any math you or Dr. Halpert want to introduce has to placed aside in favor of the overwhelming anecdotal evidence. How did all those 1000’s of excess older girls get married? I dont know (we outlined possiblities earlier but it doesnt matter for this point.) They somehow did. That is all that matters. Therfore in addressing the current “crises” new factors that DID NOT exist then are what need to be studied not old factors taht have not changed.
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